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  There is No More to the UFO/UAP Subject - For Now
Posted by: VulcanWerks - 06-09-2024, 12:24 PM - Forum: Aliens & UFOs - Replies (12)

I suspect we have hit the limit as it pertains to the UFO/UAP subject.

I say this as nearly every show/documentary/article is either a rehash of an already analyzed case or is more of the same commentary and observation.

I have consumed more-less all documentaries on this subject available on Netflix or Amazon - and all of the network shows, too. I read and researched more-less the entirely of the UFO forum discussions on ATS (far better than documentaries). Consumed The Black Vault archives. I’ve reviewed thousands upon thousands of NASA images. I’ve heard Lazar lecture in person. I’ve researched many adjacent topics. I have personally seen a craft with the naked eye and have identified countless more through my personally developed research methods. I’ve spent at least $10k USD on equipment, access and data. I’ve read the classics, watched the movies, considered the propaganda angles, understood/contextualized/dissected the narrative, etc.

I made it to the point that contact is basically the next logical step but that doesn’t appear to be tenable based on historical observations and my own research.

The net of that is… I can say “something” is here in terms of UFOs or UAPs existing. No doubt.

What or who they are I can’t say. What their purpose is I can’t say.

The person who has done zero research and says “UFOs are real look at the videos” has reached the exact same conclusion I have even though I made it to the far side of the trough on the Dunning Kruger chart.

Until we have new and compelling cases to research or a new angle to explore my stance is we’ve hit peak UFO.

This point sank in when I started compiling meteorological data, data on how earths gravity varies, the upper atmosphere and more. I realized I’m reaching to find out a way to “prove” they exist. I can prove with photographic evidence but that has already been done. My quest for corroborating evidence landed me back at square one - it’s just a validator of what is already known to be true.

So with that, I’m walking away from The Phenomenon for now. Aside from people monetizing it to entertain those who are less initiated, there just isn’t much to see here.

It bums me out. I’ve learned so much about so many subjects from aerospace to physics to atmospheric sciences to existentialism and recent/ancient history. Never mind the fascinating rabbit hole of global political history. It’s been a more enlightening subject than my formal education ever was - and I have a fair bit of formal education.

Folks can save themselves a whole bunch of time by simply buying Bigelow’s comment:

“They’re here, they have always been here, and they’re right under your nose”

He’s right. But unfortunately that’s all there is to on be said about it absent a new avenue of research or access to underground locations that are currently off limits (and I don’t mean DUMBs but that would be cool).

Maybe others have arrived here too. Maybe someone will post a comment that provides the needed spark.

I do hope that new path comes as the UFO phenomenon is the most fascinating mystery known to humanity and the learning you get along the way is notably eye opening.

Boldly going back to our bland human “reality”,


VW

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  It's not that there's no justice... it's just expensive.
Posted by: Maxmars - 06-08-2024, 09:23 PM - Forum: Current Events - Replies (5)

In our universe, there is a door, we live behind it.  A peek through the door will show you how we have monetized justice.

From ArsTechnica: Google avoids jury trial by sending $2.3 million check to US government
Subtitled: Google gets a bench trial after sending unexpected check to Justice Department.
 Google has achieved its goal of avoiding a jury trial in one antitrust case after sending a $2.3 million check to the US Department of Justice. Google will face a bench trial, a trial conducted by a judge without a jury, after a ruling today that the preemptive check is big enough to cover any damages that might have been awarded by a jury.



So a Federal judge decided that "That ought to do!" to cover any damages claim.  The judge decided that.  

Removing the element of damages from any suit such as this makes it "acceptable" to waive the jury trail (since ostensibly, the jury would only have input as to damages.)  Google has managed to mitigate their liability by offering up an amount "deemed" to be "enough."  

But wait there's more...

The payment was unusual, but so was the US request for a jury trial because antitrust cases are typically heard by a judge without a jury.

I wonder why that is...

The US argued that a jury should rule on damages because US government agencies were overcharged for advertising.

The real story is that 8 states brought this suit against Google (over a year ago) and 11 more have joined since.  It appears that this wasn't some outrageous bill... it was many, many outrageous bills charged to a whole lot of state governments.  The US legal folks "opposed" the summary elimination of the jury trial...   They noted that the amount spontaneously provided by Google was far less that their estimates of damages... and further

... that "the check it delivered did not actually compensate the United States for the full extent of its claimed damages" and that "the unilateral offer of payment was improperly premised on Google's insistence that such payment 'not be construed' as an admission of damages."

The government's damages expert calculated damages that were "much higher" than the amount cited by Google, the US filing said. In last week's filing, the higher damages amount sought by the government was redacted.

"Redacted..." I wonder why that is?  Remember, we're talking about over $100 million in business from these 'government' entities since 2019.
 
The US government lawsuit said that federal agencies bought over $100 million in advertising since 2019 and aimed to recover treble damages for Google's alleged overcharges on those purchases.

Somebody help me out... 3 x 100 million is what now?

But the government narrowed its claims to the ad purchases of just eight agencies, lowering the potential damages amount.

I guess you gotta "help a guy out" right?  Justice for the megacorp... it's so gentle, like a baby's bottom.

Google sent the check in mid-May. While the amount wasn't initially public, Google said it contained "every dollar the United States could conceivably hope to recover under the damages calculation of the United States' own expert." Google also said it "continues to dispute liability and welcomes a full resolution by this Court of all remaining claims in the Complaint."

The remainder of the article is a worthy read if you follow just how justice works for those "in the club."  I mean "Anti-Trust" is a criminal matter, no?  DOJ... it almost looked like you were trying to redeem yourselves... almost.

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  Cracking Windows on a Hot Day
Posted by: CCoburn - 06-08-2024, 06:16 PM - Forum: Automotive - Replies (1)

I've heard about back windows blowing out because windows weren't cracked on a hot day. Tom and Ray addressed this in one of their articles and the gist of that was that they didn't think it was necessary.

We're getting some 90 degree days here and I still think about it sometimes. I'm now leaning more towards you should. One of the vents on my Volvo popped out on the passenger side and I had to fix that, and I recall the last Charger I had where the vents were on the dash and they were popping out - the guy had that car sitting in the Sun for sale as I remember and windows probably weren't cracked.

I'm thinking maybe that not cracking windows on hot days might be what is causing these issues with vents popping out and the heat is contorting the shape of these plastic vent pieces so that they don't seat properly after.

Hot days - to crack or not to crack? Does it matter? That is the question.

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  Evidence of previous civilizations at bottom of oceans?
Posted by: HUBE007 - 06-08-2024, 03:59 PM - Forum: General Conspiracies - Replies (3)

I am sure this has been brought up here on this forum in the past, but I am new to this site having left ATS a while ago due to the three letter agencies getting their hands on it. 

This post is regarding the mysterious lines found at the bottom of the Earth's oceans. I have always wondered what these are ever since Google Earth showed us the mapping of the oceans. 

It could be a simple explanation (underwater cables, underwater currents etc.) but I found their routes to not be random at all and in actuality look very planned out with sharp turns and many of them crossing over/through underwater land masses that could have been above sea level in previous civilizations. They appear to be huge as well so whatever was using them must have been massive!

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  Funny Videos Lol
Posted by: Karl12 - 06-08-2024, 03:42 PM - Forum: Relationships - Replies (18)



Genius

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  The Best Ever
Posted by: Karl12 - 06-08-2024, 12:42 PM - Forum: Current Events - Replies (2)

Important tune lol





Genius

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  Good to see you all!
Posted by: Silo13 - 06-08-2024, 10:53 AM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (3)

Been away from ATS for a while due to...life.
Freakin' sack a work's been done putting this place together and it looks GREAT!
Good to be here.
I look forward to seeing more from you all -
peace

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  Dreams of Deceased Relatives and Speaking to Them
Posted by: Waterglass - 06-08-2024, 07:53 AM - Forum: Religion, Faith, & Theology - Replies (2)

I am from the old place and one of my 1st writes was about my experience while in the stroke ward in three hospitals over 32 consecutive days. I attached those links below. The stroke was the result of several sports concussions as my goal then was to go professional. The last concusion was the result of a mistake while on a ladder. 

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1163055/pg1

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1163056/pg1

Last Fall 2023 I had a deep issue involving another friend and I began to pray to my dad for advice. He passed in 2020 and since his passing I had no dreams with him. Then in 2023 he began to show up in my dreams and he then began speaking directly to me. In the last dream he basically said to me "its your mess and you need to clean it up". So I did. I made peace with the friend and have had NO dreams of dad since. My last dream in which I spoke to someone was three weeks ago. It was a non event in that we were simply talking and I asked what denomination they belong to. The person told me so I made a decision to contact that "church group".  I dont interact and speak will all deceased relatives. To date only two uncles, my dad, one grandmother and one father in-law. Thats basically it. 


My journey into this and other spiritual experiences has led me to Dr. David Hufford, PhD, University of Pensylvania, retired and Dr. Sheila Pryce Brooks, York University, London, UK. My experiences have been documented along with a 40 minute podcast with Dr. Brooks.  My wife told me about a recent interview with a Hospice physician Dr. Christofer Kerr and his experiences with end of life patients and the visitations by relatives in dreams with many whom pass. Today I wrote to him on his web site to use me as a subject if I can provide him value and I passed on information with the other PhD's whom I have met so as they can collabarate if they so desire. 

https://www.drchristopherkerr.com/tools

My current goal is to obtain consultation by Dr. Diana Walsh Palsuka, PhD, University of North Carolina @ Wilmington. She is connected with Dr. Gary Nolan, Stanford University and Dr. Jacques Vallee, University of Paris. All thre are now headed down the spiritual path with respect to ET and UFO's

https://www.drchristopherkerr.com/tools

It is my opinion that a God also exists, that we live on after death and that even ET answers to God as man was made in his image. It is also my opinion that modern governemnts and the New World Order want to eliminate religion and spirituality among all religions as knowledge is power and yes, power corrupts. 

All I can say is believe and pray.

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  "We Didn’t Force Anyone To Do Anything"
Posted by: Karl12 - 06-08-2024, 05:26 AM - Forum: Diseases & Pandemics - Replies (34)

Quote:• "The more these official institutions engage in this crazy form of denialism, the more they discredit themselves."






Wouldn't like these shenanigans to get 'memory holed' and although these Congressional Committee Hearings happened in September last year it's amazing how I still meet people today who refuse to believe what was said.

Also, with the potential upcoming 'Bird Flu' narrative thought it would prudent to post just in case this material gets conveniently 404'd (which tends to happen a lot these days).

Anyway here's the video of the proceedings and regarding the mRNA injections into humans - apparently 'nobody forced anybody to do anything'.

Priceless lol.






• Congressional Committee Hearings:




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The Biden Administration is rewriting the history of COVID. Today, the head of OSHA claimed "we didn't demand that anyone be fired" despite issuing a worker vaccine mandate for 84 million Americans that was struck down by the Supreme Court.

Previously, HHS Secretary Becerra claimed "we didn't force anyone to do anything" despite imposing a toddler mask mandate and Education Secretary Cardona baldly denied his past support for student vaccine mandates






Have transcribed the Committee questioner's statement from the video and it just about sums things.up.

It probably should be read twice by everyone - out loud if possible.






Quote:• "Mr Parker you're one of a number now of officials in this administration who have come before this committee and tried to tell us that two plus two doesn't equal four.

Sitting in the chair that you're in now the secretary of education testified, gave false testimony, to this committee denying that he had promoted a student vaccine mandate when he had done precisely that.

Sitting in the chair that you're sitting in now the secretary of health and human services made one of the most outlandish statements ever entered into the congressional record, which is saying quite a lot, when he said 'we never forced anyone to do anything' in relation to the widely discredited policy of forcing children as young as two years old to wear masks..

..and now you come before us today, asked about one of the most sweeping abuses of power that we've seen, that was rebuked by the Supreme Court, and you tell us that 'we didn't demand that anyone be fired'.

So has there been some sort of memo going around?

Why is the administration insistent on rewriting history?"






Also thought thete was a good article below but unfortunately the majority of it is now behind a paywall.





Snippet:


Quote:Did you hear this? They are actually saying with straight faces that they didn’t force you to wear a mask, or lock down and shutter your businesses, or choose between taking an experimental drug or losing your job… Nope! They did none of that. And you – well, you are flat out crazy if you think they did. You are lying. You are exaggerating and totally overreacting.


Now Biden Admin Says “We Didn’t Force Anyone To Do Anything… Didn’t Demand Anyone Be Fired”




Anyone any thoughts on these slippery antics?

Does anyone still trust a word these people say?

Beer

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  Rep. Thomas Massie Big info on AIPAC which I did not know
Posted by: 727Sky - 06-07-2024, 11:44 PM - Forum: Chit Chat - Replies (1)

Chapters: 00:00 Intro 03:19 Where Does US Debt End? 10:32 Why Massie Voted 15 Times Against Funding Israel 14:53 AIPAC 34:04 Mitch McConnell 42:25 Area 51 50:32 Massie's Relationship with Trump 57:09 Kill Switches in Cars 1:05:58 Mike Johnson and the Deep State 1:14:34 How Massie Got Into Politics 1:18:29 Living off the Grid

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  CIA UFO Tweet Revisited.
Posted by: Karl12 - 06-07-2024, 12:30 PM - Forum: Aliens & UFOs - Replies (7)

Don't know if anyone remembers this rather bizarre CIA tweet from a few years back regarding the majority of UFO sightings from the 1950's and 1960's being 'spy planes'.








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Company man Gerald Haines also pops up in the vid below stating a similar thing with UFO historian Richard Dolan countering the claim as 'absurd'.




See 35:40









Suppose people are going to believe what they are going to believe but there's some info below which appears to show the CIA claim (and Tweet) is complete nonsense.

• Also pretty amazing just how many links have now been deleted regarding this subject but some sections from articles have been saved.






Quote:1997--The CIA and Spy Planes


In a report published at about the same time as the Air Force's "crash dummy" revelation, the Central Intelligence Agency tried to write off thousands of UFO reports as mistaken observations of secret spy planes. It ended up writing fiction.

The first demonstrably incorrect statement was that there had been a major increase in UFO reports immediately following the first test flight of the prototype U-2 spy plane in August 1955. A simple count of cases in the files of Project Blue Book (which the CIA admits it used) shows that there had actually been a major decrease.

Then the CIA claimed that half of almost 9,000 UFO sightings made between mid-1955 and late1969 had been mistaken observations of U-2 and later SR-71 spy planes. Since those airplanes cruise too high to be seen from the ground (at more than 70,000 feet), this could not be the case. Moreover, one of the hallmarks of UFO descriptions in that period was their spectacular maneuvers, including right-angle turns at high speed. Both the U-2 and the SR-71 are among the least maneuverable airplanes used by the U.S. military.

Thirdly, the CIA claimed it had conspired with the staff of the Air Force's Project Blue Book to conceal the alleged sightings of spy planes by having them falsely labeled as obscure types of atmospheric phenomena. Had this been the case, several thousand UFO reports for 1955 - 1969 in the permanent files of Project Blue Book would be blamed on ice crystals, temperature inversions, and so on. But the actual total is barely three dozen.

Why the CIA would invent such an easily disproved story is unknown.

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The phrase 'demonstrably incorrect' is used in the article above so I guess all it's a matter of doing is checking if there actually was an increase in reports after August 1955 (there wasn't); if hallmarks of UFO reports from that era actually did involve highly unusual flight characteristics(they did); if the CIA actually did conspire with Project Blue Book to mislabel alleged U2 sightings as 'obscure types of atmospheric phenomena' (they didn't) and if the total number of these alleged Bluebook reports is only actually three dozen (it wasn't).

Below is another relevant article which also bring up the points that the spy plane flights were too few in number to account for all the alleged UFO reports; that the flights were carried out in areas far from public view and that the U-2 and A-12 flew at very high altitudes and were difficult to detect with the naked eye - there's also an interesting snippet concerning the then Project Bluebook Chief Robert Friend:






Quote:In 1997, Haines claimed that the CIA used UFO reports as cover for spy planes such as the U-2, and that the Air Force knowingly went along with this deception. Always ready to accept CIA material, the `New York Times' ingested the story - hook, line, and sinker. And thus another bogus claim became historical fact.

There are many problems with the claim. First, the CIA is never a credible source about its own history. After all, it is in business to deceive. Second, spy plane flights were too few in number to account for many UFO reports and they were carried out in areas far from public view. Third, the black U-2 and A-12 "Oxcart" flew at very high altitudes and were difficult to detect both visually and (in the case of the A-12) on radar. Fourth, UFO reports of the era bear little if any resemblance to the flight characteristics of high-altitude spy planes.

But most fatally, Lt. Col. (Ret.) Robert Friend, head of the Air Force's Project Blue Book from 1958 to 1963, later said there is absolutely no truth to the CIA's claims. Not only was Haines wrong about an agreement between the CIA and Air Force but Friend said he never received a single UFO report that he thought could be attributed to a spy plane.

Link








Although some of his associates were actively promoting the CIA claims looks like Robert Sheaffer (member of the notorious UFO debunking cult CSICOP) saw through the BS so I guess you have to give him credit for that.






Quote:Space.com

The CIA tweet has sparked its own UFO flap: Several analysts dispute the CIA assertion that U-2 flights really caused upward of half of UFO sightings.

"One thing this CIA UFO claim has accomplished: It has united UFO skeptics and proponents in proclaiming it untrue," Robert Sheaffer, author and well-known UFO cynic, wrote in a blog post last week. "We might agree on little else, except that this claim is nonsense."

Sheaffer explains that the Project Blue Book files are now public records, allowing anyone to verify when and where sightings were reported.

"The bottom line is: There is absolutely no correlation between the times and places of UFO reports and U-2 flights," he wrote.

A similar view about the CIA assertion is held by UFO photo analyst Bruce Maccabee, who analyzed the data and concluded that the CIA's explanation is "preposterous."

The statistics "do not bear out the claim that there was a large increase in sightings by any segment of the population, pilots and air traffic controllers included, once the U-2 aircraft started flying," Maccabee wrote in a recent blog post.

Sheaffer also argues that the CIA's claim that the U-2 flights led to the creation of Project Blue Book does not hold water, "because Blue Book predates the U-2 flights by several years. Other Air Force projects to investigate 'flying saucer' sightings were created several years earlier still."

Link








Also some relevant comments from Billy Cox over at The Herald Tribune.






Quote:Earlier this week, the CIA announced "Sixties UFOs? J/K, it was us. LOL!" Adding insult to injury, Steve Inskeep at NPR Joins The Comics, unironically taking the CIA's report at face value, something which pseudoskeptics accuse woo-peddlers of doing, rather than engaging in hard hitting journalism..

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And optical physicist Bruce Maccabee (who labelled the claims 'preposterous').






Quote:In 1997 the CIA published an article that describes its involvement in the history of UFO phenomena. (The article is published in the unclassified version of "Studies in Intelligence," a twice-yearly CIA journal. It is available at the CIA website.) According to historian and author Jerry Haines, the CIA believed that when the U-2 high altitude spy plane began flying in early August, 1955, "commercial pilots and air traffic controllers began reporting a large increase in UFO sightings." 

Link








Would be interested in any related opinions but considering how much of the original material has now disappeared just wanted to put all the saved article sections on one thread.

Beer

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  Intelligent Design Vs Chance
Posted by: CCoburn - 06-07-2024, 10:47 AM - Forum: Psychology, Philosophy & Metaphysics - Replies (15)

Intelligent Design Vs Chance


I believe this to be part of a larger picture, but it can serve as entry point to a topic of interest for the time being while likely spawning other relevant threads.

This need not be a "one or the other" type scenario either but there could exist a sequence of events where these are part and parcel of a greater scheme of things such as existence and non(negative existence).

Just as mathematics implements an "order of operations" so may existence and a lack thereof.

It has been stated recently that there is "zero evidence" of intelligent design, but how can one observe any "evidence" if they cannot even properly define the anomaly in question that would yield such evidence?

Perhaps in attempting to define and possibly even understand this intelligent design anomaly, if it exists, it might also be productive in attempting to understand the parameters of its existence as well as non-existence if that is the case.

So there it is again and could have been written a hundred different ways. Intelligent design versus chance or perhaps a sequencing of both as components of a core cosmological order.

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  Teacher was fired for refusing to call children by their preferred pronouns
Posted by: K218b - 06-07-2024, 06:18 AM - Forum: Education & Media - Replies (63)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...nouns.html

Quote: A substitute teacher in a school district in Cheyenne, Wyoming, was fired from two different schools for refusing to call students who identified as trans by their chosen names.

While teaching a classroom at East High School in March, Gene Clemetson was approached by a student he described as a boy identifying as girl. This student asked him to be called by a different name than was on the attendance sheet.

I said to him, very politely, I have to go by the name on the roster,' Clemetson recounted to Cowboy State Daily.

After they were not able to resolve the issue, the student left and returned with another teacher who told Clemetson that the student's parents approved of their child being called by this alternate name.

'Well that's great, but again, if I'm calling the attendance, if I'm calling the roll, I'm going by the names officially registered with the district,' Clemetson recalled saying.


The student called another teacher who tried to argue the parents of the students gave their permission to be called by another name. The student is a boy identifying as a girl.

Then as the teacher wasn't going to change his mind the Principal stepped in and said the teacher is not welcome back to the school after all he did. Then he was escorted out of the school by the Vice-Principal.

And that's the second time the teacher was fired for the same reason! A similar incident occurred during the spring semester at another school in the same district, Triumph High School. The Principal asked him to leave the premises because he wasn't obviously fit to teach.

I wonder if the education authorities should take the matter further. The teacher refused to call a boy who identified as a girl with another name and a girl who identified as a boy with another name. These teachers deserve not only to be fired but they shouldn't be anywhere near children, let alone be their teachers and mentors. Shame of him! He should be banned from the profession.

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  Boston Biolab Leak Cover-Up.
Posted by: Karl12 - 06-07-2024, 06:09 AM - Forum: Diseases & Pandemics - Replies (1)

Well the link to the main story is long gone but there are still some very interesting video interviews below regarding U.S. Biolabs, Tularemia outbreak cover-ups and the inherent dangers of the US Government setting up biological weapon laboratories in heavily populated civilian areas (like Boston).

Jonathan King Professor of Molecular Biology at MIT makes some revealing comments about the subject in the first video and the second contains some rather disturbing accounts of mismanagement within the 'industry'

Apparently there's a 'status quo of indifference, underreporting and secrecy' and the leaks have 'popped the balloon of bloated and distorted safety claims about the biodefense program'.







• Boston University's Tularemia outbreak and how the CDC Refused Rapid Response:



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Quote:Don't count on the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to tell the public about biological weapons accidents. CDC's refusal to divulge information about the Boston University tularemia incidents will come as cold comfort for the tens of millions in the US who live close to (proposed) biological weapons labs, according to the Sunshine Project..




"Boston University's tularemia problems have popped the balloon of bloated and distorted safety claims about the biodefense program," says Sunshine Project Director Edward Hammond, "CDC secrecy about biological weapons accidents will shake remaining confidence in laboratory safety not only in Boston; but nationwide. By rejecting disclosure, CDC is signaling intent to continue with the status quo of indifference, underreporting and secrecy. The solution is to reign in the sprawling and palpably dangerous biodefense program and to mandate reporting and prompt public disclosure of laboratory accidents.









See 1:20






Video 2


Quote:Characteristically, the biggest risk to Americans is not overseas. It's right here at home from our own government. If you watch nothing else this year, make sure you take the 10 minutes for this one.

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  Revisiting Dr Day's NWO Predictions.
Posted by: Karl12 - 06-07-2024, 02:17 AM - Forum: New World Order - Replies (3)

First came across these recordings whilst looking at the Rockefeller's backstage WHO connections and how they helped fund Bill Gates Senior's (eugenic) Planned Parenthood organisation.

Apparently the predictions about what to expect within the 'social and medical agenda' were made in a lecture by Planned Parenthood National Medical Director Dr. Richard Day given to a meeting of about 80 doctors of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society on March 20th, 1969 and were reported by Dr. Lawrence Dunegan who was in attendance.

The 'New World System' described in the lecture really does sound pretty disturbing but when looked at in a modern day 2024 context also sounds pretty familiar and there's a short summation below with the full audio recordings linked underneath.






• Short Vid:





Quote:On March 20, 1969, Dr. Richard Day, the National Medical Director of the Rockefeller-sponsored "Planned Parenthood" told a meeting of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society that "A New World System" would permanently transform the world. Dr. Day, who died in 1989, wanted to prepare the 80 or so physicians present.

Although the doctors were warned not to make recordings or take notes, Day's remarks were reported by Dr. Lawrence Dunegan who died in Jan 2004.

Full Audio Video Version






More info on Dr Day's lecture with the linked tape transcripts below and did find it interesting that it's said 'the new system will come in over a weekend in the winter' - also the 'order' is apparently in reference to the ‘Order of the Barbarians’.






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Quote:At the meeting on the 20th March 1969, Dr Day asked the attendees not to take notes or record what he was about to tell them. Something which Dr Dunegan said he found unusual for a professor to ask of his audience. The reason Dr Day implied was that there would be negative repercussions – possibly personal danger –  against him if it became widely known that he had talked about the information he was about to relay to the group. Dr Day told the group that what he was about to say would make it easier for them to adapt if they knew what to expect beforehand, something of an ambiguous statement which became clearer as Dr Day spoke.

Dr Dunegan got the impression that Dr Day was talking as an ‘insider’, rather than as a person who was presenting a theory or speaking in terms of retrospect. Dr Day’s knowledge was concrete as he talked about the future and the strategies of people and organisations that had a defined plan for the world, and were in a position to make sure that plan was executed.

In introducing that there were those who had a plan for the world, Dr Day also informed his audience that there was a timescale, and that much of what they wanted would be achieved through plans that were already set in motion. Dr Dunegan recalls Dr Day saying “We plan to enter the twenty-first century with a running start. Everything is in place and nobody can stop us now…”, and that he felt relatively free to talk about this to those he considered friends. Dr Day referred to the plans of those in power as being ‘much bigger than communism’.

When talking about the people who had the power to devise and implement such plans, Dr Day stated that they were not primarily in public office, but were people of prominence who would be known to the public through their occupations or private positions. This ties-in with what we know about the globalist elite today, primarily consisting of families involved in operating large-scale financial institutions, European royalty, and other extremely wealthy individuals.





Also important to note that although Dr Lawrence Dunegan recounted the lecture notes back in 1969 he didn't transcribe them to audio until 1988 and there's a website below which tracks the modern progress of the predictions by citing realworld examples.





Quote:Our analysis is based on the  taped interview with Dr Dunegan in 1988 when he recollected his memories of the meeting in 1969. In the analysis of events since the meeting in 1969, we have primarily used 1988 as a starting point because Dr Dunegan could not possibly have knowledge of future events.

The Revelations Of Dr Richard Day





• Tapes transcript:

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  Private medical data - Google targeted ads
Posted by: Maxmars - 06-07-2024, 01:15 AM - Forum: Current Events - Replies (10)

My insurance company sort of forced me to switch doctors once... I went to the "new" doctors ranch... filled out a slew of paperwork.. and did my business with them.  Directly afterwards, in a matter of under an hour, my email inbox was flooded with dozens of new "advertisers" all very well focused on me and my needs.

Now the doctor didn't do this... but his "third parties" did.  Third parties like "Google."

So this little article didn't surprise me much...

From ArsTechnica: Google accused of secretly tracking drivers with disabilities

This is about a lawsuit.  So the language being used is somewhat inflammatory... but guess what... I still believe it.
 


Google needs to pump the brakes when it comes to tracking sensitive information shared with DMV sites, a new lawsuit suggests.

Filing a proposed class-action suit in California, Katherine Wilson has accused Google of using Google Analytics and DoubleClick trackers on the California DMV site to unlawfully obtain information about her personal disability without her consent.

This, Wilson argued, violated the Driver’s Privacy Protection Act (DPPA), as well as the California Invasion of Privacy Act (CIPA), and impacted perhaps millions of drivers who had no way of knowing Google was collecting sensitive information shared only for DMV purposes.

"Google uses the personal information it obtains from motor vehicle records to create profiles, categorize individuals, and derive information about them to sell its customers the ability to create targeted marketing and advertising," Wilson alleged.

According to Wilson, California's DMV "encourages" drivers "to use its website rather than visiting one of the DMV’s physical locations" without telling drivers that Google has trackers all over its site.



Imagine that... "targeted marketing" being related to to information vacuumed up from the DMV... 

Care to guess where else Google get's information to sell?

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  Games that let you create... but you don't own it.
Posted by: Maxmars - 06-07-2024, 01:03 AM - Forum: Video Games - No Replies

There are a lot of video games out there... I mean a lot.  Many of those games are more than just puzzle-solving, story telling, or arcade reflex games.  Lot's of games allow you to 'craft' something personal and special to you.  They allow you to design, model concepts, draft architecture, make pretty things, and use your own creativity to express yourself.

But now more than ever, it has become clear that no matter what you create... it's not really "yours."

This manifests itself in several different ways; I was recently told of the sorrow of people playing games that rely on servers that are exclusively owned by game companies, who have no intention of making sure it's there for you whenever you want... especially when that game is no longer producing the kind of revenue growth the industry calls 'worth it.'

From TechdDirt.com: LittleBigPlanet: Now You Don’t Own What You’ve Created, Either
 


For several years now, we’ve had a running series of posts discussing how, when it comes to digital goods, you often don’t own what you’ve bought. This ugliness shows up with all kinds of content, including purchased movies, books, and shows on digital platforms. But it has reared its head acutely as of late in the video game industry. The way this goes is that a publisher releases a game in whole, people buy it, and at some later date the publisher decides to shut down backend servers that render the game partially or totally unplayable for those that bought it. This has the effect of deleting pieces of culture, a real problem for those interested in the preservation of this artform, and a real problem for the entire bargain that is copyright, where all that culture is eventually supposed to end up in the public domain.


The thing that spawned this specific lament was to do with PlayStation 4 and their management of the game LittleBigPlanet 3.  For many years, things were fine... but then, back in January they announced... 
 

“Due to ongoing technical issues which resulted in the LittleBigPlanet 3 servers for PlayStation 4 being taken offline temporarily in January 2024, the decision has been made to keep the servers offline indefinitely,” Sony wrote in the update, first spotted by Delisted Games. “All online services including access to other players’ creations for LittleBigPlanet 3 are no longer available.”


Now I am a realist.  No company is going to operate servers for free, forever.  But the way this went down... I don't know...

It's bad enough to have to buy media over and over as the Disc, tape, or "object" fails...  but games that we love, and the content we created... I think there should be something in the terms and conditions (and even the operation of the app itself) that should make certain that users know just how tenuous their access is.

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  Ever quit antidepressants? The media is telling stories...
Posted by: Maxmars - 06-06-2024, 11:24 PM - Forum: Health - Replies (25)

Discussing this topic may be a bit difficult for me.

You see, this topic has a personal meaning to me.  And it doesn't help that my age means that I belong to a generation which always kept to themselves about such things as depression, anxiety, and the effects of PTSD.   My generation mostly gets drunk to self-medicate and/or cope with errant mood swings and other such aspects of the human condition.

Certainly not all of my generation does that, and I am happy of that... but those in my general 'cultural' affectation who actually suffer from the condition aren't looking to "talk out their feelings" with strangers, and barely can confront those feelings with their loved ones. 

I will tell you from my perspective (which is as apt to be the problem itself as anything else) I remember several overarching sentiments that I face when I am depressed.  Most of them are not nice.  First of all, loved ones are as likely to misunderstand depression, anxiety and PTSD as any stranger.  It is almost a relief to me that such is the case.  It means (or meant) that the people I am talking to probably never really have suffered depression, et al.  I find that comforting.

But I (again, being old) have had a lot of experience with people not understanding.  Depression isn't "feeling sad."  But people treat you as if it were sadness that was the problem.  Depression isn't "suicidal"... but every professional will immediately revert to the threat of 'suicide' as the prime focus of their encounter.  Depression isn't "about" things.  It's not "self-image," it isn't "pressure" or "stress," it isn't something external at all.  It comes from inside.

I found myself often being barraged with platitudes and parables... all evoking ideas ranging from "snap out of it," to "be a man," to "buck up" to 'God loves you' and 'eat chocolate.'

People rarely embrace the idea that depression isn't really "about" anything... you can win the lotto and be depressed, you can 'get the girl' or 'win the prize' and still be depressed.  Frankly, depression is a physical thing that outwardly manifests itself emotionally.

Medical science has finally begun taking the baby-steps necessary to actually treat the condition.  Pharmaceuticals seem to hold promise... but it's NOT anti-depressants as a 'silver bullet.'

We are coming out of a time when Physicians - trained by the pharmaceutical industry - had been assigning a chemical solution to a psychological problem as a "go-to" solution.

Depressed? Pill. Done and done.

I can tell you from my own experience that pills aren't the solution.  What's worse, the medicines in the field are largely a "let's try this" affair.  "Oh, it makes you uncomfortable?, gives you nightmares?, makes you stay awake all night?... Then let's try this..."  and so on, and so on.  Of course doctors mean well (God, I hope so,) but negotiating such a deeply personal malady and maintaining a physicians' "clinical detachment" hasn't really been a stellar success (at least in my experience.)

When I ran across this topic, it became clear to me that confusion about depression still abounds... 

Check out these headlines:

From CNN: Study finds the rate of withdrawal from quitting antidepressants
Wherein the 15% of people suffered 'withdrawal' symptoms, and the editor immediately plastered a "suicide" PSA before the article. Because "depression" has now become the 'poster child' for suicide.  (Not every depressed person is)

From New Scientist: Does coming off antidepressants really cause withdrawal symptoms?
The article cites a 1 in 3 rate of withdrawal symptoms (30%?) but goes on to question if they are 'imagined."

From TheTimes: Antidepressant withdrawal less common than thought
They say "only" 15% of people suffer the withdrawals, reiterating "it's safe under the care of a doctor."

From TheGuardian: Antidepressant withdrawal symptoms experienced by 15% of users, study finds
Where "under one in seven" suffer withdrawals...

I noticed that when the media reports on this, the symptoms are all cast as a "minor" thing... headaches, dizziness, nausea... but I can assure you, there are more severe symptoms available to be blessed with.  And I'm sure big pharma will declare "Nonsense... it's all manageable. "  I risk to differ.

Suffice to say, these are very typically interesting stories, all spawned by meta research... culled data from 79 different studies and "normalized" so they can be aggregated into a single paper...  I'm not inspired with confidence here...

Only CNN was kind enough to actually share the research, which had been published in the Lancet: Incidence of antidepressant discontinuation symptoms: a systematic review and meta-analysis

Which stands in contrast to earlier research (2019) which reported over 50% undergo withdrawal symptoms... 
From ScienceDirect.com: A systematic review into the incidence, severity and duration of antidepressant withdrawal effects: Are guidelines evidence-based?

I am not going to decry the disparity... there might be emergent commercial reasons for the rash of recent "good news" portraying that not so many people "need to worry about it."

I do.  I have family and friends who are tethered to these liver churning, brain-function-shifting, chemical harnesses... and I have a dreadful personal experience related to "stopping the madness" with frequently entrenched pill-pushing technocrats.  Very dreadful.

Yes it's chemically related to your brain, yes it could be a chemical signaling error... but that does not represent the "totality" of depression... or anxiety, or many other things which "they have a pill for."

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  Malware targeting Ukraine only computers
Posted by: Maxmars - 06-06-2024, 10:36 PM - Forum: Conflicts & Conquests - No Replies

I find this a chilling thing. 

I can only surmise that this malware is part of a wartime activity, since it specifically turns itself off if the location data tells it that it is not in Ukraine.  And it means that the creators did not care to target anything other than Ukrainian machines... or it's a setup (c'mon, this is a conspiracy site.)

From HITBSecNews: Ukrainian Systems Hit by Cobalt Strike Via a Malicious Excel File
 


The security vendor described the threat actor as using a Ukrainian-themed Excel file with an embedded Visual Basic application (VBA) macro as an initial lure. If an unwary user enables the macro, it deploys a dynamic link library (DLL) downloader — obfuscated via the ConfuserEX open source tool — on the victim system.

One of the first things the DLL downloader does is look for the presence of antivirus and other malware detection tools on the compromised system. If the downloader detects the presence of one, it immediately terminates further activity. Otherwise, it uses a Web request to pull the next stage payload from a remote location. The DLL downloader is designed so it can only download the second stage payload on devices located specifically in Ukraine. From there, the downloader then executes a series of steps that results in Cobalt Strike getting deployed on the victim device.



"War" is an ugly thing to begin with, but this is an example of warfare extended to the digital world.  It has happened before, I know, and it will happen again, no doubt... but country-specific... that's new to me.

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  Veterans at Area52 became sick and now are asking for compensation
Posted by: K218b - 06-06-2024, 07:32 PM - Forum: Area 51 & Other Facilities - No Replies

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/area-52-can...orce-base/

Quote:In the mid-1980s, Air Force technician Mark Ely's job was to inspect secretly obtained Soviet fighter jets.

The work, carried out in hidden hangers known as hush houses, was part of a classified mission in the Nevada desert, 140 miles outside of Las Vegas at the Tonopah Test Range — sometimes referred to as Area 52. The mission was so under wraps that Ely said he had to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Ely was in his 20s and physically fit when he was working at the secret base. Now 63 and living in Naperville, Illinois, he's confronting life-threatening consequences from the radiation he says he was exposed to.

For decades, the U.S. government conducted nuclear bomb tests near Area 52. According to a 1975 federal environmental assessment, those tests scattered toxic radioactive material nearby.

"It scarred my lungs. I got cysts on my liver. ... I started having lipomas, tumors inside my body I had to remove. My lining in my bladder was shed," he said.

All these years later, his service records include many assignments, but not the mission inside Tonopah Test Range, meaning he can't prove he was ever there.

Not much to add here. Some unfortunate individuals who served in the Air Force and stationed at Area52 were exposed to toxic radioactive material after a range of tests conducted nearby. Now after so many years the then young and healthy air-force personnel along with others of course have developed a number of serious health issues such as cancers, heart and lung problems, and so on. Unlike other employees who were given financial help and others forms of aid, the Air-Force personnel don't qualify for any sort of aid because they can't prove they were at Area52 and the Government won't acknowledge their presence there.

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  Paradise Lost - Irony In Climate Change.
Posted by: IdeomotorPrisoner - 06-06-2024, 11:50 AM - Forum: Fragile Earth - Replies (4)

This was a comment at ATS, and a previous thread, but I feel it should be done again in a non redundant setting.

A topical story, with my take on climate change. That kind of says "everyone is right and everyone is wrong" simultaneously.

Thread begin:

Climate change is coming, and your small island is sinking.



They can't keep the water back anymore, and this is the first of MANY Panamanian islands that are to be voluntarily evacuated.

The sea level rise is hard to dispute.

My dispute is the anthropogenic way we caused it to happen. We caused the melt off more recently.

I think, in a twisted Irony, our recognition of our hands in climate change brought on the actions which actually accelerated it.

I know the sulfur from coal and vehicle smog killed trees, but had they not selectively filtered the emissions they might not have thrown wacky concentrations of greenhouse vs. aerosols into the atmosphere for over 50 years running now.

So basically to save trees and people's lungs from adjacent burning coal, they attacked almost ALL aerosols, and a large portion of greenhouse gasses.

Then, you can line up a seemingly exponential acceleration starting pricely with the imposition of EPA exhaust regulations. The aggressive reduction in aerosols is coorlative to the rise in temperature. It lines up so well you can single out the mandating of CATALYTIC CONVERTORS as the most likely 'accelerant." In recent times that's become more pronounced. Almost ZERO aerosols are now released, meaning no matter how little greenhouse emissions they reduce it to, they are still adding to the already askew atmospheric concentrations. No matter how you attack it through regulation you just add to the problem that exists until you address the other loss of albedo.

It's getting to the point where purposely releasing aerosols in the upper atmosphere will be the ONLY way to stop this greenhouse imbalance. If it's about albedo, there's easier ways to do that. Like a single Mt. Tambora. Perhaps engineered volcanic cooling is an answer to climate change. Because all our effort combined amount to an engineered greenhouse effect as things stand now.

No one likes this explanation though, pro and con alike.

What are your opinions on the cause of anthropogenic Climate change? Does anthropogenic climate change exist? Could my insane idea to "play Mt. Tambora" cause a more devastating cold snap? Is it releasing tigers to get rid of rodents?

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  Is there a Way??
Posted by: FlyingClayDisk - 06-06-2024, 06:14 AM - Forum: Board Questions & Business - No Replies

I've noticed that if you make two consecutive replies on a thread (i.e. without someone replying in between the 1st and 2nd reply), that both replies (and all other subsequent replies) will get combined into a single reply with a demarcation line separating them.  Is there a way to prevent this?  In other words, to have each reply show up as a completely separate post?

The challenge I have with this feature is, if I reply to two separate people in a thread, one after the other, it shows up as one reply.  What this means is, I have to be sure then that I always use the "quote" feature so it's (more) clear to readers who I am replying to (I realize it still identifies who the reply is to, but it's kind of hard to see when all rolled up in one post and with only the demarcation line and without the quote box).  If this is a storage issue, it would seem to me that the reply with quote takes up more space than a separate post with no quote (but I could be mistaken about this).

Anyway, let me know, and thanks.
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  Covid vaccines may have helped fuel rise in excess deaths
Posted by: K218b - 06-06-2024, 06:08 AM - Forum: Diseases & Pandemics - Replies (10)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06...ss-deaths/


Quote:Covid vaccines could be partly to blame for the rise in excess deaths since the pandemic, scientists have suggested.

Researchers from The Netherlands analysed data from 47 Western countries and discovered there had been more than three million excess deaths since 2020, with the trend continuing despite the rollout of vaccines and containment measures.

They said the “unprecedented” figures “raised serious concerns” and called on governments to fully investigate the underlying causes, including possible vaccine harms.

Writing in the BMJ Public Health, the authors from Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, said: “Although Covid-19 vaccines were provided to guard civilians from suffering morbidity and mortality by the Covid-19 virus, suspected adverse events have been documented as well.

“Both medical professionals and citizens have reported serious injuries and deaths following vaccination to various official databases in the Western World.”

Nothing new here but a reminder and a verification of what happened during the last three and a half years since the vaccines were rolled out.

There is a significant amount of non-Covid excess deaths from all causes that is considerably higher than the pre-covid 5 year average. We exclude the Covid years 2020 and 2021 and the two years 2022 and 2023 have given us important information about what might be causing these excess non-Covid deaths.

It's not rocket science but straight forward from the measures that were taken to deal with the pandemic.

1) Long and very harmful lockdowns
2) Lack of good quality primary care
3)Significant or severe delays in receiving medical attention and treatments or even surgeries that were cancelled or postponed
4) Experimental, untested, and potentially dangerous products that were pushed as part of the mass vaccination campaigns

The combination of the above explain very well the large amount in excess non-Covid deaths in most if not all Western Counties that adopted the same way in dealing with the pandemic. It resulted in catastrophic consequences.

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  Smart Nano Dust To Blanket Major Cities?
Posted by: Karl12 - 06-05-2024, 01:44 PM - Forum: General Conspiracies - Replies (5)

Quote from Dr Strangelove Schwab - author of 'Shaping The Future Of The Fourth Industrial Revolution'.




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Thought there was some pretty eye opening speculation being discussed in this short interview below regarding potential plans for smart nanoparticle dust to blanket major cities - Ryan Cristian also covers some rather disturbing DARPA tech, existing patents and speculates about endgames.










Would be interested in opinions on the vid and for folks who want to delve deeper into dystopian horror tech then this presentation also discusses weaponized neurotechnology causing 'morbidity, disfunction or mortality' as well as high morbidity neuro-biologic agents, nano neuro-particulates and (almost undetectable) aerosolised robotic nano-swarms.

Specific DARPA programmes which involve real time, remote access and manipulation of the brain are also brought up as well as 'trans cranial neuro modulation' (so probably no accident on DARPA's 'behind the scenes' involvement in Neuralink).



Links:


The Great 'Transhumanism' Reset: 'Smart Dust' Spying on Your Brain, Human Microchipping

'Smart dust' aims to monitor everything

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  600,000 routers 'bricked' over 72-hours
Posted by: Maxmars - 06-05-2024, 01:19 PM - Forum: Crime - Replies (11)

A newer criminal conspiracy mystery was inevitable.

Back in October, "some mysterious operator(s)" managed to reduce 600,000 routers being used by subscribers of the ISP known as Windstream to useless "bricks."
 


One day last October, subscribers to an ISP known as Windstream began flooding message boards with reports their routers had suddenly stopped working and remained unresponsive to reboots and all other attempts to revive them.

“The routers now just sit there with a steady red light on the front,” one user wrote, referring to the ActionTec T3200 router models Windstream provided to both them and a next door neighbor. “They won't even respond to a RESET.”



The author cites Black Lotus (formerly CenturyLink) a cyber security company, who has coined this event as "Pumpkin Eclipse."  I suppose every such cyber attack needs a military- style mission name.

Reportedly users had made allegations...
 

... They said it was the result of the company pushing updates that poisoned the devices. Windstream’s Kinetic broadband service has about 1.6 million subscribers in 18 states, including Iowa, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, and Kentucky...


Now the kicker here is that not only do they have no idea WHY these routers were specifically targeted, they have NO CLUE as to who did it.  As it unfolds the 'event' marks a terrible vulnerability to all of us lowly users who rely on the people we pay for services to use and maintain a system that is not going to be compromised...  The ISP is not commenting, and the event will not be featured in the 11 o'clock news.  But 600,000 'new' routers will be shipped...

Word of advice from the uneducated... make your ISP replace your router every if you discover it has been listed as vulnerable.  Keep the firmware updated, and brace yourself because eventually someone will try to exploit its' weaknesses.

Oops! Edit to add forgotten source link from ArsTechnica: Mystery malware destroys 600,000 routers from a single ISP during 72-hour span

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