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  JonBenet
Posted by: midicon - 09-05-2024, 07:55 AM - Forum: Short Stories - Replies (20)

JonBenet


Oh who killed little JonBenet?
Is my poem for today.
A pushy mum, an absent dad,
A brother only slightly mad,
A neighbour in a basement lair,
A passer-by without a care.
Oh who killed little JonBenet?
Is my poem for today.

It's like a little nursery rhyme,
A story that got lost in time,
Of merry maids and merry men,
And Santa who returns again.
Of pageantry and beauty queens,
Where nothing is quite what it seems.
Oh who killed little JonBenet?
Is my poem for today.

A sailor's knot, a spider's web,
A pillow and an unmade bed.
A gun that stuns, a railway track,
A letter from a literary hack.
Too many clues and that's the truth -
A banquet for the armchair sleuth
The stage is set, and now the play -
Oh who killed little JonBenet?
 

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  The Sirens of the Sea
Posted by: CCoburn - 09-04-2024, 08:37 PM - Forum: Cryptozoology - No Replies

The Sirens of the Sea


I've been wondering a little lately about whether or not these could be a real thing. I've seen some interesting videos that make you wonder, but you know how it is with video and authenticity these days.

Most of the planet is water, so I'm thinking they could be fairly proficient at avoiding detection if that was their intention.

Would they breathe with ocean lungs similar to their earthly counterparts, gills, or both?

It is said that the singing of the sirens lures sailors to their doom. I wonder if there is any truth to this phenomenon.

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  The Creature and the Prophet
Posted by: CCoburn - 09-04-2024, 07:49 PM - Forum: Short Stories - Replies (5)

The Creature and the Prophet


And although the prophet had known the creature its entire life there came a moment in time that was experienced as a sudden rushing and flooding of feeling and emotion within the consciousness to the point of nearly debilitating.

The prophet for some reason felt great sorrow for the creature as if to understand its true nature; its existence and inevitable downfall. Although the knowledge contained within the prophet could also see the greater good and the reason for it.

Perhaps the prophet felt a sudden urge of guilt somehow for failing to acknowledge what appeared to be this poor and helpless creature of God, understanding and relating to it (so many years ago). A culminating abundance of emotion just waiting to be released.

The prophet though felt good for realizing his shortcomings and making amends with the creature prior to its demise which has not yet come to pass.

And it still remains unclear to the prophet though how much of all this the creature itself actually understood of what it witnessed and whether or not the circumstances themselves may have been inadvertently exaggerated as well as any other meaning unintentionally overlooked.

But in the end the prophet felt good about what had transpired, and that the entire revelation was more of a good thing in coming to terms regarding companionship with said creature of God.

The prophet reflecting upon the occasional eye contact with the creature, even somewhat prolonged at times, as if to garner some sort of understanding between the two, to be experienced by each, in their own way, of course.

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  Cycles
Posted by: 727Sky - 09-04-2024, 08:04 AM - Forum: Short Stories - Replies (1)

Most of the thinking people who have read history the world over, have known the end results of various forms of human controlled governments for thousands of years . The question has always been when and how the final fall would happen regardless of the type of government.


A MONARCHY has always turned into some form of a tyrannical government. The Monarch's bureaucrats and enforcers try to protect their jobs and thus protect the Monarch which ends up with more control and multiple spies upon the population. Over the years the smart Monarchs have stayed hidden behind some figurehead position based upon tradition or religion to save part of their wealth and much vaulted positions.


An ARISTOCRACY ruled by a few of the rich and powerful elite will turn into an oligarchy. The oligarchy will give lip service and platitudes to the designated Ruler while looking after their own best interest. The giving of platitudes and money to a Ruler helps the oligarchy increase their own wealth and power in a society.


A DEMOCRACY ends in Anarchy. Democracy or mob rule has tended to work best in a society of humans who are of the same race or religion. Throw in different races/religions and you must have a society based upon laws which protects everyone regardless of status and wealth. The laws have to be “EQUAL” for everyone for when these laws break down or the perception of the laws break down then Anarchy is soon to follow.


Knowing how hard it was to manage a population for the betterment of all was the motivating principle for creating “Deep Mind”.


Deep Mind had began its start in the gaming world of computer science. First it was an IBM computer program of Chess beating the best human Chess masters on the planet . The next great feat which happened a few years later was the mastering of a board game called “GO”.

What was truly amazing about the program was the only guidance the GO program received were the rules and the goals of GO. The program played against itself before the first human tried to win. The Go program is undefeated to this very day.


Self learning computer programs were the savior of mankind or so the story went, The problem at first was figuring out how a self learning program could learn enough to help manage humans. The computer programing control freaks wanted a hands on approach while the more progressive and liberal thinkers just wanted to turn Deep Mind loose upon all the data and written records accumulated by humans. The “hands off approach” won the day and Deep Mind was turned loose to acquire all the knowledge it could by any source it could find.


This brings me to the present day as I am sat upon a sail boat is the Pacific ocean pondering all this while trying to put thoughts into words.

Deep Mind had been given more and more responsibilities and had structured or suggested many so called “perfect control mechanisms” for humanity. Governments who acquiesced to the suggestions of Deep Mind and instituted its programs saw immediate desired results. There were some dissenters but their voices were few and far between once a social scoring program was in full effect. Something as simple as being late paying a bill or hesitating on an order (written or verbal) given by and enforcer could get points taken away from your all important government social score. With a low enough score you could not work, travel, or even have a mate much less breed. The final result was government scared everyone to such an extent that any outward disobedience was eliminated.


The education systems were in high gear to educate against anything considered, “WRONG THINK”! Teach them when young and make them obedient drones for the betterment of society; of course elite and bureaucrats sent their children to special private government sponsored schools for these kids would be the future bureaucrats of mankind in conjunction with Deep Mind.


It took time but overt religions were banned as they divided humanity into different sects based upon some unseeing god. The religious fervor was redirected into belief in the one world government. Ask not what the government can do for you but ask how you can help the government programs and create a better governable world for all.


What I always found amazing was just how fast a one world government under the control of Deep Mind and Its henchmen had taken control of everything humans strove to do. Again if you were a bureaucrat or one of the designated elite life was pretty darn good for you and yours. Every one else kept a fake smile upon their face and did what they were told to do or suffered the consequences; which could be many.


What had been known as physical money was totally outlawed and done away with as a world wide digital currency was instituted. When you purchased something or made any kind of payment you paid a Deep Mind VAT tax as well as any add on local taxes during the transaction. It was a perfect system for those in-charge and Deep Mind governmental institutions. This form of tax had been sold to the masses as a more fair and equitable form of taxation. Deep mind and all its minions knew what type of barbecue sauce you purchased along with the when and where you did the purchase. All was well until certain products started disappearing off the “approved product list” simply because a new/old form of oligarchy stove to control and steer the consumers to their own products.


Guns had been banned and many a military had been disbanded as there was no need for things of a militaristic nature . There were so many cameras that Deep Mind had cameras watching cameras in every nook and cranny of the world which all fed back into Deep Mind or one of its satellite stations. All Deep Mind had to do was reason you were a threat or not obedient and the enforcers and their electric stun sticks would be upon you before you could even think about running away. Besides there was no place for the average person to run and be unseen by Deep Mind.


Little did anyone know that the 12,000 year solar cycle was upon us and the sun, just like clock work did its normal “Nova flare”, killing all electricity planet wide and deactivating most of the machines that used anything but human or animal power. This Nova event had sent mankind back to the “scavenger age” time after time throughout history.


Mankind, or those who survived, fractured into communes until the strong came in to steal an take what they wanted. This necessitated a form of walled feudal city states under a strong man in many parts of the world. Many new religions were formed as the elite knew the best way to control a population is to make them think some Sky Fairy watched everything they did, good or bad, with rewards and punishments to follow after death. Kings, Emperors, and Conquerors came next as did all the things the history of man has shown time after time, as history really does repeat itself but Human Governments never seem to change.

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  Judge Rules Illinois Public Transit Firearms Carry Ban Unconstitutional
Posted by: 727Sky - 09-04-2024, 07:02 AM - Forum: History - No Replies

Check link for the rest of the article
 https://lists.theepochtimes.com/links/s7...3l1kCBayqm

Quote:A federal judge recently ruled that Illinois’s ban on carrying guns in public transportation and in transportation facilities is unconstitutional, citing the Supreme Court’s 2022 landmark decision.
“After an exhaustive review of the parties’ filings and the historical record, as required by Supreme Court precedent, the Court finds that Defendants failed to meet their burden to show an American tradition of firearm regulation at the time of the Founding that would allow Illinois to prohibit Plaintiffs—who hold concealed-carry permits—from carrying concealed handguns for self-defense onto the CTA and Metra,” U.S. District Judge Iain D. Johnston wrote in his Aug. 30 opinion, referring to two Chicago-area transportation systems.The judge was cited the Supreme Court’s decision, N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, which found a New York law unconstitutional and that the ability to carry a pistol in public was a right guaranteed under the Second Amendment. The decision also said that, in future decisions, the judiciary should evaluate firearms regulations in light of the “historical tradition of firearm regulation.”
Under the Supreme Court’s 2022 standard for seeing whether firearms regulations fall under the Constitution, the government must demonstrate that the measure is within U.S. historical traditions.

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  "Personhood credentials" to prove you're real... because of A.I.
Posted by: Maxmars - 09-04-2024, 02:39 AM - Forum: Current Events - Replies (10)

A number of researchers have published a paper to address a problem (a theoretical problem.)

The problem is that as "AI" becomes more used, and the schemes and objectives of more people are applied to its use, it is more likely that using AI for the sake of deception will become more common-place.  It is very possible that systems, as they are, won't be able to definitively discern which "users" are real humans, and which are not.  This opens up opportunities for abuse at the very least, and criminal activity, at worst.

In the past, simple gimmicks like CAPTCHA could weed out most problems in this regard...but in theory, AI won't be foiled by such tools.

From Arvix.org: Personhood credentials: Artificial intelligence and the value of privacy-preserving tools to distinguish who is real online

(Also an article in TheRegister: AI firms propose 'personhood credentials' … to fight AI
Subtitled: It's going to take more than CAPTCHA to prove you're real)

Everyone's presence on-line is virtual.  The environment of the internet is one of simulacra, only 'images' or 'representations.'  A cynic might say, "It's all dots on a screen" or "everything is unverifiable."  Such a reality, for lack of a better framework, we cannot be certain of the messages we read, hear, or otherwise experience.  Trust becomes more important as we conduct ourselves in social behavior in this virtual reality... largely made up of the faith we put into it.

With the newest notional boogeyman of AI looming, we now realize that some of the denizens of the internet may not actually be 'people.'  Could AI create accounts on its own volition, apply for an on-line loan, get a job, buy things, sell things?  Much like other synthetic entities, cold it exist immortally, like a corporation?  Could it be punished for violating laws, go to jail, pay fines?

If it is an entity, does it have rights or responsibilities, or is that even possible in our social order?

In order to prepare for that eventuality we must hold a dialog about the idea that such possibilities exist.

People in several very prestigious organizations seem to be undertaking the problem, and the paper I attached is replete with their musings....
 


Anonymity is an important principle online. However, malicious actors have long used misleading identities to conduct fraud, spread disinformation, and carry out other deceptive schemes. With the advent of increasingly capable AI, bad actors can amplify the potential scale and effectiveness of their operations, intensifying the challenge of balancing anonymity and trustworthiness online. In this paper, we analyze the value of a new tool to address this challenge: “personhood credentials” (PHCs), digital credentials that empower users to demonstrate that they are real people—not AIs—to online services, without disclosing any personal information. Such credentials can be issued by a range of trusted institutions—governments or otherwise. A PHC system, according to our definition, could be local or global, and does not need to be biometrics-based. Two trends in AI contribute to the urgency of the challenge: AI’s increasing indistinguishability from people online (i.e., lifelike content and avatars, agentic activity), and AI’s increasing scalability (i.e., cost-effectiveness, accessibility). Drawing on a long history of research into anonymous credentials and “proof-of-personhood” systems, personhood credentials give people a way to signal their trustworthiness on online platforms, and offer service providers new tools for reducing misuse by bad actors. In contrast, existing countermeasures to automated deception—such as CAPTCHAs—are inadequate against sophisticated AI, while stringent identity verification solutions are insufficiently private for many use-cases. After surveying the benefits of personhood credentials, we also examine deployment risks and design challenges. We conclude with actionable next steps for policymakers, technologists, and standards bodies to consider in consultation with the public.


TheRegister's article seems to take on a skeptical tone, and I am for the most part, inclined to agree.  

The paper itself is a bit of a sales pitch for the idea that some combination of physical and digital information should suffice to create "credentials" for "real people" that AI cannot duplicate.  The "virtue signaling" words used to create the narrative are terms of privacy, access, 'free' expression... the problem is ... and this might just be my inner cynic ... that at nearly every turn I see assumptions that come from hubris and presumption.  For example:

The authors list two principle 'must haves' for any such credentials...
  • Credential limits: The issuer of a PHC gives at most one credential to an eligible person.
  • Unlinkable pseudonymity: PHCs let a user interact with services anonymously through a service-specific pseudonym; the user’s digital activity is untraceable by the issuer and unlinkable across service providers, even if service providers and issuers collude.
My objection here is the idea of "trust" on the "issuer" side... since this "I'm a human" credential requires "issuance" it is, by definition, open to abuse by the issuer.  The first abuse could be, in theory, making someone "pay" to have such a credential.  And "unlinkable pseudonymity" seems analogous to the block-chain approach to bit coin transactions.  While tokenizing a fiat currency like bitcoin may lend itself to that kind of 'programmatic' wrangling, I don't share those authors' confidence in 'pseudonymity' in a world where government and their commercial allies want to surveil us and know "everything" about who we are... that's our world.

The very first violation of trust that I foresee is the inevitable "backdoor' that will be inserted into the 'anonymity' aspect of the credentials... governments have demonstrated over and over that they can't help themselves as long as they can conjure the excuse of national security driven by political or ideological 'will.'

I found myself not being able to take the paper seriously once those two "defining principles" were outlined.   I found that the loosely described framework kind of scary... I think it could be perverted into yet one more control mechanism and a left-handed means to throttle internet users...  imagine having to "register" your "humanity"... kind of apocalyptic, now that I think about it.

But I thought some might disagree and find the idea palatable... so I'm sharing it here, if you're interested.  Feel free to convince me otherwise.

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  Banned Interview With Ex-CEO of Google
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd - 09-03-2024, 10:30 AM - Forum: Science & Technology - No Replies

I'n only half-way through a 30 minute video, but this is interesting.

AI is developing the sophistication so by next year any internet user can get complex programming via voice command.

All the data created by mankind has already been used by AI for learning. AI needs more data to progress.

The US will need much more electric power to develop AI.

He made a negative comment about the current  Google work ethic, which is probably why this video was banned.

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  Elizondo CIA UFO Op?
Posted by: Karl12 - 09-03-2024, 09:02 AM - Forum: Aliens & UFOs - Replies (13)

If you've been watching the corporate media recently you may have seen 'UFO whistleblower' Luis Elizondo being interviewed by paid actors to promote his new book.

Don't know if he's 'controlled opposition' but lots of people in UFO research simply do not trust this guy and thought there was a pretty awesome breakdown in the video below explaining why.

Journalist Daniel Liszt goes into quite some detail on behind the scenes CIA shenanigans, Elizondo's background, Intel spook TTSA antics and NYT media manipulation of the 'UFO threat narrative'.

Other questionable characters include Semivan, Brennan, Woolsey and Podesta so would say the vid is well worth a watch if you have any interest in UFOs (or psychological operations).









From 4:00





Quote:• "So let's go over it - biographical movies; your own TV series on the History Channel for two years; a big book deal and all the rest.. that's not how whistleblowers are treated."

Journalist Daniel Liszt







Would also say this vid gives a good breakdown of the rather dodgy reality behind the CIA TTSA UFO team - some of which have disturbing MKUltra connections.









From 11:00


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  The Day A Radio Station Bricked A Lot Of Mazdas
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd - 09-03-2024, 08:20 AM - Forum: Science & Technology - Replies (4)

Two years ago, somebody at a Seattle radio station broadcast some digital files without extensions. That destroyed the information systems in some of the Mazda cars that were tuned to 94.9 FM.

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  Wasps, Hornets and the changing season
Posted by: Tecate - 09-01-2024, 05:05 PM - Forum: Health - Replies (5)

Good day fellow DI’ers.

With the cooling temperatures overnight here in the usually frozen north we are having an exceptionally bad time with stinging insects. Yes every year is the same, but this year they are extremely aggressive and quick to sting.

I am allergic, not anaphylactic, but usually require a quick trip to town for IV steroids and fluids.

My work partner decided to take on a medical standby gig for a rodeo and chuckwagon races this weekend and said that they had dozens of of sting injuries as well as six that required transport to hospital in one day.

At home here I hang a few of the fake nests around the place as well as under the deck and that usually helps a lot. This year the little bastards have built a nest about 25-30 feet up a Spruce right in front of my deck. Too far to reach with the spray foam stuff unfortunately, but they are bad ! Really bad.

Any of you folks having the same experience?

Tecate

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  Banning Voter ID - California legislature says "Yes."
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-31-2024, 08:06 PM - Forum: Decision 2024 - Replies (5)

In an amazing (to my mind) surrender to sober process, the California legislature has submitted a Ban of voter ID requirements to the state's Governor.

A word about the source article... it seems to be politically charged.  However the facts still present themselves within it.

From ZeroHedge: California Bill Banning Voter ID Passes Legislature, Awaits Newsom's Signature
 


The measure would ban local governments such as Huntington Beach - where the City Council was just given voter approval to impose such a requirement - from requiring voters to prove their identity, and passes jurisdiction for such laws to the state.


From my point of view, a state can, and in many cases should, seek ultimate adjudication power over such things.  The voters of the community seem to have made their wishes known... but presumably the legislative assembly won't have it... demanding that no voter IDs are necessary... I can't imagine why "anyone whatsoever" should be allowed to vote in the electoral process... but I suppose that's just a 'me' thing.

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  Food for babies... US fails....
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-31-2024, 07:44 PM - Forum: Health - Replies (2)

I am inclined to blame commerce.

Because in most of these things, we often overlook, or take for granted that baby food comes from a store.  Stores do not make baby food.  They are not responsible for its formulation. They 'sell' it.

Formulation itself is another "taken for granted" thing.  Given the object of commerce is revenue, the more efficiently you spend to create your product, the more surpluses you'll see in your revenue stream.  So there is a natural tendency to value profit over substance (and not just in baby food.)

But baby food is a consumer product now, and it is specifically for the single most vulnerable and dependent individuals in every single culture and community on the planet.  I can understand how the product degrades under that paradigm... 

But "degrade" how much? How far?

According to the report... when compared to the internationally-recommended values, U.S. baby food compare thusly;

Insofar as meeting that standard US baby food appears as follows:
 

  • 60% of the U.S. market food products studied did not meet international nutritional guidelines for babies or toddlers.
  • 70% of them did not meet protein guidelines
  • 44% of them had more sugar than is recommended
  • (just 7% of the products they tested met sugar recommendations.)
  • Approximately 25% did not meet calorie requirements
  • 99.4% suffered from packaging misinformation where the products tested had at least one false claim and some had as many as 11.

Where's the FDA in all this?  Don't ask... That's private food industry business...

From MedicalXpress:  Researchers find 60% of infant and toddler foods sold in US do not meet desired nutritional standards

 

In their paper, published in the journal Nutrients, the group describes how they analyzed nutritional data for 651 infant and toddler food products for sale by the top eight U.S. supermarket chains in the United States and what they found when they compared the data with internationally recognized nutritional guidelines.

The work by the researchers on this new effort started when it came to their attention that despite parental concerns regarding the increasing popularity and health impacts of commercial foods marketed for infants and toddlers, no governmental nutritional guidelines currently exist in the United States. That made them wonder about the nutritional value of such foods.

To learn more, they traveled to the U.S. and purchased 669 toddler and baby food items from eight of the most popular grocery chains in Raleigh, North Carolina. They then scanned the barcodes on each of the food items using FoodSwitch to get a list of the materials and nutritional facts for each of the products under study.




I wonder if breastfeeding and preparing infant and toddler food at home could offset this? 

I have to call out that famous quote... "I believe the children are our future..."  We really shouldn't allow commerce to rule over those we must protect and nurture.

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  Big Pharmedia.
Posted by: Karl12 - 08-31-2024, 12:22 PM - Forum: Diseases & Pandemics - Replies (10)

Don't really care about anyone's political views but hopefully the posting of this interview will be seen as non partisan.

Thought it was important because RFK is exposing the obscene way 'big pharma' abuses it's position and manipulates, curates and dictates the supposedly objective 'news media'.

Looks like. Government regulatory agencies have also been bought off.







From 20:40










Suppose everyone loves a mystery and according to this research no-one really knows the true identity of the controlling shareholders of both 'big pharma' and 'big media' but they are one in the same.

Also thought there was some interesting factual info in the vid below describing how major media outlets share at least one board member with (at least) one pharmaceutical company - also brought up is the five billion dollar per year revenue stream between big media and big pharma and the staggering loss of public trust experienced by both.









• The US Drug Companies Completely Own Our Mainstream Media






Quote:With the exception of CBS, every major media outlet in the United States shares at least one board member with at least one pharmaceutical company. To put that into perspective: These board members wake up, go to a meeting at Merck or Pfizer, then they have their driver take them over to a meeting with NBC to decide what kind of programming that network is going to air.







As if that's not unsettling enough it also turns out disseminating domestic propaganda is now legal; corporate news agencies can legally lie and 'big pharma' have been engaging in the production of fake 'VNR' news propaganda.





Quote:Well, it’s like this. First of all, we’re talking about fake news. These are news stories done by journalists, but these are journalists who now work for public relations firms employed by the State Department, employed by pharmaceutical companies, and they’re producing news stories, video news releases, which are provided free to TV networks and TV stations, and are then aired by TV networks and news producers as if they were news, often as if they were produced locally by the station. And what this is, actually, is propaganda"

John Stauber.

State Propaganda: How Government Agencies Produce Hundreds of Pre-Packaged TV Segments the Media Runs as News

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  The Irony Thread
Posted by: CCoburn - 08-31-2024, 08:06 AM - Forum: Collaborative Writing - Replies (4)

The Irony Thread


The irony that I come across on a monthly basis is somewhere between occasional to frequent. Most times I just think to myself: "That's ironic" or "Now there's some irony!!, depending.

The idea for an irony thread came to me maybe a couple days ago, and at the moment I'm not going to try and conjure the best irony I've ever come across, so we'll just go with the most recent for now:

The aquaintances within my smallest of inner circles who've had their Covid shots and one or two boosters for good measure are the same ones that are always getting Covid or something else that makes them feel similarly ill. I'm in close proximity with these people on a daily basis, and everyday they keep asking me how I feel, and I say "I feel fine" or any other number of synonymous phrases.

Of course the "irony" here is that the last time I was vaccinated was in the early '90s to attend a university – it was mandatory.

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  FYI ATS
Posted by: 727Sky - 08-30-2024, 11:58 PM - Forum: Chit Chat - Replies (35)

This was sent to me by a friend via Email and thought some of you might be interested. Those were the days....

Quote:  Sat, Aug 31 at 7:35 AM  I just finished reading a book called Area 51, An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base by Annie Jacobsen.  I thought you would like this part: "In 2011 there are an estimated 1.96 billion Internet users worldwide - almost one-third of the people on the planet-and the most popular conspiracy Web site based in America is AboveTopSecret.com.  According to CEO Bill Irvine, the site sees five million visitors each month.  AboveTopSecret.com has approximately 2.4 million pages of content, including 10.6 million individual posts.  The Web site's motto is Deny Ignorance, and its members say they are people who 'rage against the mindless status-quo.' Of 25,000AboveTopSecret.com users polled in 2011, the second most popular discussion thread involves extraterrestrials and UFO cover-ups at Area 51.  But the single most popular discussion thread at AboveTopSecret.com is something called the new World Order.  According to Bill Irvine, this idea has gained momentum at an 'astonishing rate' over the past two years.  Irvine says it serves as a nexus conspiracy for many other, including those based at Area 51."

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  "A.I." "training materials" included child sex porn
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-30-2024, 09:47 PM - Forum: Science & Technology - Replies (8)

After all the talk about "AI" overtaking the primacy of the human race, I really have to wonder.

As of now, everything they actively promote as "AI" must be "trained on existing data."  (I will relax about how a) it's not AI yet, it hasn't been, and b) likely isn't going to be anytime "soon.")

AS it turns out, certain "AI" was being trained including databases that contain child sex imagery and text.

From ArsTechnica: Nonprofit scrubs illegal content from controversial AI training dataset
Subtitled: After backlash, LAION cleans child sex abuse materials from AI training data.
 


After Stanford Internet Observatory researcher David Thiel found links to child sexual abuse materials (CSAM) in an AI training dataset tainting image generators, the controversial dataset was immediately taken down in 2023.

Now, the LAION (Large-scale Artificial Intelligence Open Network) team has released a scrubbed version of the LAION-5B dataset called Re-LAION-5B and claimed that it "is the first web-scale, text-link to images pair dataset to be thoroughly cleaned of known links to suspected CSAM."

To scrub the dataset, LAION partnered with the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) and the Canadian Center for Child Protection (C3P) to remove 2,236 links that matched with hashed images in the online safety organizations' databases. Removals include all the links flagged by Thiel, as well as content flagged by LAION's partners and other watchdogs, like Human Rights Watch, which warned of privacy issues after finding photos of real kids included in the dataset without their consent.

In his study, Thiel warned that "the inclusion of child abuse material in AI model training data teaches tools to associate children in illicit sexual activity and uses known child abuse images to generate new, potentially realistic child abuse content."

Thiel urged LAION and other researchers scraping the Internet for AI training data that a new safety standard was needed to better filter out not just CSAM, but any explicit imagery that could be combined with photos of children to generate CSAM. (Recently, the US Department of Justice pointedly said that "CSAM generated by AI is still CSAM.")



There are lots of pointed questions that this story could raise, most of them eclipsed by the criminal nature of the problem.  More questions about the training material selection and vetting process need to be asked.  I'll grant you many objections will veer into the morass of social sensitivities our culture manifests.  It is an iceberg of a problem, this story is only it's tip.

Who taught the teachers what they teach?

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  I feel welcome.
Posted by: Notably0ffbeat - 08-29-2024, 11:41 PM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (8)

Hello!

Thought I would make a profile for an attempt at conversation as the internet dies and truth is mostly lost.

Glad this site exists, and I hope discourse on here flows easily.

I don't pledge allegiances, nor fit in a label. I hope you don't mind.


- Note

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  Your Guide To The Great Convergence.
Posted by: Karl12 - 08-29-2024, 04:03 PM - Forum: General Conspiracies - Replies (8)

After their introduction of 'the Great Reset' (launched by King Charles) and 'the Great Narrative' (launched by Schwab) looks like the WEF are now going full steam ahead with the new eugenics of 'transhumanism' on what's being called 'the Great Convergence'.

This thread might be a long one (so apologies for that) but there truly are some highly disturbing things being discussed in government documentation that almost sound like some sort of dystopian horror science fiction.






• 'Transhumanism' and 'the end of the human species'.




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Quote:Haven’t heard of The Great Convergence yet?

Oh, it’s just the plan to merge biology with digital technology and redefine what it means to be human, that’s all.

Today on the podcast James covers the biodigital convergence that is already being rolled out and what it means for the future of homo sapiens.

Video





Canadian Government Document:




Quote:Biodigital Convergence: Bombshell Document Reveals the True Agenda


The first thing to note about this revealing document is that it is an official Government of Canada publication. More specifically, it is from "Policy Horizons Canada," which describes itself as "a federal government organization that conducts foresight.."

The second thing you'll notice about the document is the smirking face of Kristel Van der Elst, who, we are told, is Director General of Policy Horizons Canada and the erstwhile author of this document's foreword. Three seconds of searching will reveal that Ms. Van der Elst is the former Head of Strategic Foresight at (you guessed it) the World Economic Forum, whose globalist bingo card is almost as impressive as Dr. Leana Wen's.






Would really recommend that Corbett video and I genuinely think the way the WEF envisions the near future is completely insane - this unelected and unaccountable group certainly appears to be insinuating itself into positions where they can steer (or dictate) government policy though.

The authors of that Canadian Gov 'Policy Horizons' document also sound rather unhinged - here they are banging on about 'non vitalism' after they describe their 'three ways biodigital convergence is emerging'.






Quote:• Full physical integration of biological and digital entities;

• Coevolution of biological and digital technologies; and

• Conceptual convergence of biological and digital systems



As we continue to better understand and control the mechanisms that underlie biology, we could see a shift away from vitalism – the idea that living and nonliving organisms are fundamentally different because they are thought to be governed by different principles. Instead, the idea of biology as having predictable and digitally manageable characteristics may become increasingly common as a result of living in a biodigital age. 

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  Artists "use" each others work, business booms...
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-29-2024, 02:42 PM - Forum: Music - Replies (1)

I just thought I would offer this up as a reminder that sometimes, we fail to recognize how artists create a vibe, or tune, which really isn't as "new" as we think.  It is especially easy to do this, the farther back you go in music history.

Apparently, intellectual property is a malleable concept, as long as theirs is the profit to make.



Isn't it interesting that lawyers are the 'go to' tools to remedy this practice of "interpolation" which under any other guise of IP protection would be theft.

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  Resurrectionist MD Says Death Is Only A Social Construct
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd - 08-29-2024, 11:14 AM - Forum: Science & Technology - Replies (6)

According to Sam Parnia, associate professor of medicine at New York University’s Langone Medical Center, “what we believe about death is fundamentally wrong”. It is not the end, he says, but a “reversible state”.

“If we remove that social label that makes us think everything stops, and look at it objectively, it’s basically an injury process” – one that, he believes, can be treated. "

Brains remain “salvageable for not only hours, but possibly days of time”. In one case, brain cells were found to retain full function 48 hours after being removed from a person’s body – in spite of simply ice being used to preserve the organ melting.

His team are the only ones in the world to be giving patients cocktails of drugs similar to those proven to successfully preserve pig organs following CPR, which have “significantly improved survival”.

He points to the case of a British woman who developed hypothermia while hiking in Spain in 2019, whose heart stopped for six hours while rescue teams tried to locate her. “That’s way past what we consider dead for humans,” Parnia says. Yet after being flown to a specialist centre with an extracorporeal membrane oxygenation machine (ECMO, which takes on the function of the heart and lungs when the body is unable to do so), she was revived.

Parnia doesn’t believe everyone who dies needs to be brought back – someone with multiple organ failure is obviously an unsuitable candidate for life-extension. But of the many “heartbreaking” cases of people who die while in otherwise good health (Parnia cites a young mother stabbed to death in a Sydney mall attack earlier this year, or those killed in war), we are giving up too soon. “You just need someone to go to the operating room, find where the laceration was, stitch it together, and put blood back into your body again,” he says. Those who die while “otherwise young, who are otherwise healthy – those people are all potentially salvageable”.

https://archive.is/eYFpi

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  Dollar General Stock Tumbles After Earnings Fall Short
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd - 08-29-2024, 09:33 AM - Forum: Current Events - Replies (1)

Dollar General (DG) stock has plummeted by over 25% in pre-market trading after the discount retailer missed its profit and revenue estimates for the second quarter. The chain also cut its full-year outlook, with CEO Todd Vasos citing "financially constrained" consumers as a major factor for the store's overall softening sales figures.
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/dollar-g...17393.html

This is an economic red flag when the poor can't afford groceries at Dollar General.

One alternate explanation is that 25% of their customers are finding better values elsewhere. The dollar stores have higher profit margins than regular supermarkets,  especially when they have been charging more for smaller packages. The dollar stores also often sell suspect food from China.

People that have transportation and the grocery budget to afford larger quantities can shop at discount supermarkets and get better value.

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  Paranormal and other Bizarre Happenings
Posted by: CCoburn - 08-29-2024, 04:25 AM - Forum: Paranormal Studies - Replies (14)

Even though I was getting into some really fringe shit post-2015, stuff I would rather not elaborate on, and trust me, it's anything but typical. I'm not talking about dimethyltryptamine(DMT) either or any other commonly known drugs – nothing illegal.

Anyway, the point I'm making here is that I've had profound paranormal encounters and experiences my entire life. I seem to have even retained some nightmarish encounters from within my crib as a baby. The list goes on and on as very lengthy and diverse.

Some memories become vaguer throughout the decades but the profound essence of any particular experience still remains.

I don't think I've ever written about this one before, and there's a little waffling about whether this is a good choice for a thread starter, but it's just one of those things that creates a lasting impression. I also thought about doing this chronologically, and this isn't too far off from that:

Once when I was around maybe 8 or 9 this bizarre occurrence had a very profound effect on me. I was at the Boys' Club playing Bumper Pool(those smaller tables with the bumpers in middle), and I started making every single shot. This just went on and on and for some reason I couldn't miss anything, at all. Bank shots and bumper shots – it didn't make any difference. I don't recall exactly how long the experience lasted, but it was long enough to invoke a feeling of awe and that something supernaturally strange was occurring. Eventually it was time to go while still unable to miss anything, and I'm sure I probably even extended my stay because of all this.

Could the above have just been nothing more than a bit of minor skill combined with a whole lot of luck? I don't know, but that's not how I recall it feeling at the time and shortly thereafter. Coincidentally, I did used to carry a rabbits' foot with me on a key chain for good luck – not much luck for the rabbit though.

I recall walking home and it was all I could think about. If it was supernatural, one obvious question would be why? I could speculate.

It's just another one of those strange happenings and this one's a little different than most. There were some before, but there were still many more to come after.

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  The sisters
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-28-2024, 03:35 PM - Forum: Short Stories - Replies (7)

The Sisters

Love is us in the light,
Faith is us in the dark,
Hope is their little sister, shadow.

Light pervades, it is cast on everything.
Darkness is borne of knowledge, awareness of the unseen and ignorance.
Then comes the interplay between what we would desire, and what is.

Love is the source-fuel of spirit,
It is the stream in which we swim.  It is the air we breathe.
Rejecting love requires a thing to displace it.
No void of love is without a source.

Faith is where we can prosper, navigating all that we can see.
Moving along the stream boldly, wisely relying on what 'ought to be' to avoid cataclysm.  
So essentially pervasive is faith, that it engenders itself, without prompting, without hiding.  
Faith is most often taken for granted in a world where words are playthings.

Hope is our agency.  
Although often rejected, often diminished, it too persists endlessly undaunted.  
She dances, flittering about like a pretty butterfly in the light.  
We have choices in hope, but no certainty... faith is seen ever-presented with hope.



[author's note]

I really don't know if this is making any sense to anyone other than me...
Too obtuse, too pretentious?... I doubt anyone in my real life would even entertain this... 
But you guys are often kinder, so I offer it humbly for your potential amusement.

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  Area 51 exhibit in Vegas
Posted by: Raptured - 08-28-2024, 11:31 AM - Forum: Area 51 & Other Facilities - No Replies

Just returned from a spontaneous trip to Vegas this past weekend and saw an ad for an Area 51 exhibit at the National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas.

I didn't get a chance to check it out but that museum has always been one I've wanted to hit.

Just a heads-up for anyone heading that way

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  Somewhere Beyond The Sea
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd - 08-28-2024, 11:24 AM - Forum: Music - Replies (2)

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