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  Somewhere Beyond The Sea
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd - 08-28-2024, 11:24 AM - Forum: Music - Replies (2)

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  Investment forum?
Posted by: Raptured - 08-28-2024, 11:02 AM - Forum: Board Questions & Business - Replies (6)

I was surprised to not see a forum dedicated to investing (or maybe I missed it).   Would this be something others would take interest in?  I am an avid personal investor and while not very good heh (buy high/sell low is my pattern....)  I would love to interact with others who are most definitely more saavy than myself.

I don't touch crypto but mainly deal in tech stocks.  I was lucky to get in on NVIDIA before the split when it was high but not anywhere near it's peak.

anywho....

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  Terror Propaganda Created To Fit State Agenda
Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd - 08-28-2024, 02:16 AM - Forum: General Conspiracies - Replies (11)

One morning, maybe 5 years ago, I was walking with the dog, and as as we reached a more remote area, I noticed a local news truck, with a reporter getting ready for a live feed. He was doing a story about terrorists targeting internet communications. I explained that it was actually metal thieves that had pulled down the fiber optic line, thinking it was copper. Their metal processing camp was 100 feet away, littered with scrap, human feces and hypodermic needles. The old dirty rope that was used to pull down the line had lain in that field for years. It became a huge national news story about terrorism, and the local interagency terrorism task force along with the FBI were investigating. Pundits in the national press pontificated about the unknown group responsible. I did casually explain my knowledge of the event to a local sheriffs deputy, but there was no interest, and I never got a response.

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  UFOs and USOs -The Santa Catalina Channel.
Posted by: Karl12 - 08-26-2024, 08:30 AM - Forum: Aliens & UFOs - Replies (3)

Santa Catalina Channel.

Map:



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The Santa Catalina Channel has been a rather infamous UFO/USO hotspot over the decades and (although it's the History Channel) there's a short segment about the area in the vid below.

Apparently people have been spotting them there for decades and back in the sixties families were even going down there to see them with a packed lunch.








See 3:10









Quote:Writes Ann Druffel,


“This body of water lies between the coastlines of Southern California and Santa Catalina Island, 20 miles offshore to the southwest. The area has for at least thirty years been the scene of UFO reports of all kinds: surface sightings of hazy craft which cruise leisurely in full view of military installations, aerial spheres bobbing in oscillating flight, gigantic cloud-cigars, and at least one report of an underwater UFO with uniformed occupants.”


Another researcher, Robert Stanley, editor of the now defunct magazine Unicus, writes,


“Even in the sixties, families were going down to the beach and waiting for a UFO to pass by…. By the 1970s, whole families were going down to the beach at Point Dume at night to watch the multi-colored UFOs [that] would sink under the water at times.”


MUFON field investigator Bill Hamilton writes,


“For years witnesses have seen many types of UFO cruising off the Palos Verdes Peninsula in Southern California. UFOs have actually been seen to come out of the water in the San Pedro Channel.”


I had already uncovered several firsthand cases myself. My next step was to put together a comprehensive list of all the recorded ocean-going encounters in the area.

I came up with more than 50 sightings..



Article: Fate Magazine, February 2006







As per usual many of the pertinent links have now been deleted from the internet but there are saved articles below which cover the freaky goings on.






Quote:The first California underwater UFO was on July 7, 1947 when two San Raphael teen-agers saw a "flat glistening object" emerge from the water, fly around and then dive back into the water 400 yards from shore. Throughout this same year, numerous steamers reported a mysterious 'undersea mountain' or a 'large mass underwater' which kept appearing and disappearing in various locations in the San Francisco Bay and down the coast.
Following this, the sightings came regularly, in 1951, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1962, 1964, 1970, 1980, 1990, 1991, 1993, 2004 the list goes on, most from the Santa Catalina channel. The sightings involve many highly credible witnesses including lifeguards, security guards, law enforcement officials, military officers and countless citizens.


Link Deleted.






Some interesting dates in that last article and here's more info on those 1947 reports of 'flying discs over Catalina' (the same time as Roswell).








Quote:One of the first such reports to make it into the local paper, was the supposedly widely-viewed account of several “flying discs” over Avalon in 1947, just about the same time as the infamous Roswell incident...

Not as widely reported at the same time, however, were a number of other “disc” sightings both before and after the Roswell incident.

On the evening of June 26, 1947, U.S. Army Major George Wilcox of Warren, Arizona, reported a series of “eight or nine” disc-shaped objects traveling near his home and at an altitude of about 1,000 feet above the nearby mountains.

That same evening, a Captain E.B. Detchmendy reported seeing a “white disc glowing like an electric light bulb” passing over Pope, New Mexico, a sighting echoed by several local townspeople.

Dozens of other sightings—many by military officers—were reported in the region in the coming days and weeks.

But the Southwest wasn’t the only venue. Similar sightings were reported throughout much of the western United States as far north as Washington State and as far west as California—including Catalina Island.

On July 8, 1947, the very same day that Roswell’s Daily Record was reporting the initial “flying disc” story, a remarkable incident reportedly occurred in the skies above Avalon. An article on the front page of the week’s issue of the Catalina Islander details an alleged sighting by three visiting Army veterans of six “flying discs” traveling at high speed from the northeast and passing directly over Avalon before disappearing over East Peak.

According to the story, the six discs appeared at about 1 p.m. and flew in a formation of two sets of three and were witnessed not only by the veterans, but by “hundreds” of others as well.

Alvio Russo, one of the reported witnesses and an Army Air Corps veteran who had flown 35 bombing missions over Germany with the Eighth Air Force, estimated the velocity of the discs at “850 miles an hour,” according to the story.

Bob Jung, listed as a “former aerial photographer” agreed with this estimate and said they were flying roughly as fast as the U.S. Navy’s “Tiny Tim” rocket, which he had photographed numerous times for the Navy.



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  Hey, if you're familiar with ATS, u remember me. I had tens of thousands of posts.
Posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat - 08-25-2024, 01:07 AM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (9)

Some of you may remember me from ATS if that's where many are coming from. I had many tens of thousands of posts back there, even if it was usually just my failing to take anything seriously that drove me to leave most comments and contribute just a little with a lot of sarcasm and stupidity; that's just who I am. I am a Greek-American guy who was schooled in Greece, France, Spain, and the US and then I returned to Greece for college where I got multiple degrees and advanced degrees, something I wouldn't even recommend young people do any longer, college these days is just a waste of a whole lot of money and you will be brainwashed and receive an education that people my age were getting at 10 and 12 years old.

I am an expert pianist and harpist and have played since I was 3 1/2 and have played in bars and cruise ships all over the world.

By both hobby and profession, I am an avid linguist, philologist, translator, etymologist, and polyglot. I adore language, I love grammar, and I speak Greek, English and French fluently as well as Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Italian, and Ancient Greek. I can understand almost everything in Catalan, Aragonese, Galicia, Aranese, Asturian, Occitan, Provençal, Savoyard, Griko, Calabria Greek, Lombard, Piedmontese, Limousine, Venetan, Tuscan, Romanian, Friulian, Corsican, Pontic, Tsakonian, Cretan, Thrakian, and a few others. I can't speak them or write them, but I know enough to understand these languages when I read them.

My aunt was a well known expert in medieval dialects of several languages, their middle versions and literature, and she was perfectly fluent in their modern tongues, speaking about 15 when she died and working on her 16th. Her work has been published many times.

On the other side of my family, our claim to fame is having the famous BETZ family who are known for finding the alien like Betz sphere in the forests around their property, the Betz Castle.

Another claim to fame, my family lives in Patmos castle in Greece and cares for the cave in which St. John the Theologian wrote Revelations, the last book of the Bible.

My final claim to fame is that a 23 And Me test that was taken in my family led us to the discovery that much of my family isn't really my family. Just three years ago, we learned that in reality, I come from my great-grandfather, the murderer, and my grandfather, the serial killer. He was executed some time back and nothing interesting or "neat" has come from it as I imagined it would have, were I ever in such a situation. Just heartache, probably because of who his favorite victims were.

Something interesting about me is that I have loved ghost stories my whole life, as well as tales of aliens or paranormal mysteries. I would always come back to the conclusion, upon contemplation though, that everything was certainly a case of mistaken identity or people simply having a need for attention. That is until one night outside of my home in Phoenix, I walked outside and was met by about 30 or 40 brilliant glowing orbs of every color imaginable. They danced around like a fairy would and even circled me in seeming interest. After about two minutes, they stopped flitting back and forth and just froze for a second before they all went perfectly straight up into the sky and disappeared amongst the stars. We don't even have FIREFLIES here so I know it wasn't mistaken identity and anyways, I had never seen such brilliant colors or lights. I obviously had the same experience that many people in the past have had who called the phenomenon the Willow'th'Wisps. I don't know if they were alien, or magic, or interdimensional, but they were there with my naked eye and they were not normal. I never thought I would have a paranormal experience of my own, but it took that experience for my entire way of thinking to change and the possibilities that actually experiencing something like that myself brought a perspective into my world that would not have been possible without seeing it myself. And of course, I had one of the experiences that are IMPOSSIBLE to communicate and that nobody believes. That is a really crappy fact about experiencing such a rare and seldom experienced phenomenon, but it was an incredibly unmistakeable phenomenon too without anything even close to a natural explanation. So it was great for me, and depressingly impossible to convince others of for me. But it has opened my mind to things that were strictly science-fiction before that night; a night when everything changed.

I guess that is all! I doubt there was anything much in this introduction anyone gives a rats bottom about. But here I am again, just so you know.

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  Never get Captured
Posted by: 727Sky - 08-24-2024, 09:59 PM - Forum: Vietnam War - Replies (6)

I can not speak for everyone but I swore I would never be captured. All the rounds in whatever weapon I had I would use yet the last round was for me.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kknp1p0PS...ture=share

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  Hi gang. New here but not elsewhere….
Posted by: SkallyWag - 08-24-2024, 09:26 PM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (4)

Hello everyone, this may be fun.

A special shoutout to Nugget!

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  Cryptoterrestrial UFO Hypothesis.
Posted by: Karl12 - 08-24-2024, 04:34 AM - Forum: Aliens & UFOs - Replies (4)

Always tried to keep an open mind on UFO origin and for folks who haven't heard of the 'cryptoterrestrial' hypothesis before then author Mac Tonnies breaks it down in the short vid below.










Quote:This theory by late American author and blogger Mac Tonnies asserts that if we accept that UFOs are vehicles created by an advanced civilization and apply Occam’s razor, we can conclude that it is most likely the civilization originates from the Earth itself rather than a distant planet.

Tonnies suggests that we share our planet with a humanoid race much older than humanity but related to us (explaining their physical form) and more technologically advanced. He dubbed these entities the “cryptoterrestrials,” rejecting “ultraterrestrial” as too linked to theories of humanoid visitors from other dimensions and “cryptohominid” as too suggestive of Bigfoot.

Tonnies suggests the entities may be a dying civilization given to subterfuge by hiding underwater or underground. These entities promote and encourage the idea that UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin as a cover story to throw investigators off from the truth. Reports from abductees of aliens warning humanity to care for the Earth make more sense if they are fellow Earth residents rather than visitors from thousands of light-years away..

The US Air Force isn’t trying to cover up a threat from above, but the existence of another, slightly more advanced civilization below us. Tonnies admits that some alien encounters could very well be of extraterrestrial or interdimensional origin, but he believed the majority are the result of a deception campaign by a desperate, Earth-based military force of subterraneans hoping to keep our eyes fixed firmly on the skies.

UFOs are from a Cryptoterrestrial origin






He also wrote this great book exploring the CTH subject before his untimely death back in 2009.








• The Cryptoterrestrials - Mac Tonnies.




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Quote:What if the "aliens" are not from other planets? In this book, Mac Tonnies proposes that at least some accounts of alien visitation can be attributed to a humanoid species indigenous to the Earth, a sister race that has adapted to our numerical superiority by developing a surprisingly robust technology.

At the same time, this groundbreaking work attempts to reconcile the mythological and contemporary accounts of "little people" into a coherent picture. "For too long, we've called them 'aliens,' assuming that we represent our planet's best and brightest," writes Tonnies. "Maybe that's exactly what they want us to think."

PDF



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All healthy speculation of course and don't know how folks feel about a race of techologically superior, indigenous humanoids sharing the planet and being in some way responsible for UFO (or USO) reports but there's a good interview here which expands on ufological aspects surrounding the hypothesis.

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  Rental-pricing algorithm used by landlords is illegal?
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-24-2024, 02:46 AM - Forum: Current Events - Replies (2)

Personally, I have never relied upon "apps" or the internet to find and secure a place to live.

But nowadays, it seems the younger generations do it constantly.  Amidst all the apps is one that apparently helped landlords to "take the guess work out of determining what to charge for rent."

The algorithms used by the app (the "service") accumulates the 'proprietary' data of all their subscribers, and issues forth a suggested rate which guarantees they are charging as much as  the other members.

From ArsTechnica: US sues RealPage, claims rental-pricing algorithm used by landlords is illegal
 


The United States today sued RealPage, alleging that the software maker distorts competition in rental housing by helping landlords collectively set prices.

"To ensure they secure the greatest value for their needs, renters rely on robust and fierce competition between landlords. RealPage distorts that competition," said the lawsuit filed by the US government and eight state attorneys general. In a press release, the Justice Department said that "RealPage's pricing algorithm violates antitrust laws."

Attorney General Merrick Garland delivered remarks on the lawsuit. "When the Sherman Act was passed, an anticompetitive scheme might have looked like robber barons shaking hands at a secret meeting," he said. "Today, it looks like landlords using mathematical algorithms to align their rents. But antitrust law does not become obsolete simply because competitors find new ways to unlawfully act in concert."



The article shows how reframing the 'objectives' of commerce can allow "price-fixing" to be morally justifiable... or as one member/landlord reportedly said:
 

One landlord observed that RealPage's software "can eliminate the guessing game" for landlords' pricing decisions. Discussing a different RealPage product, another landlord said: "I always liked this product because your algorithm uses proprietary data from other subscribers to suggest rents and term. That's classic price fixing." A third landlord explained, "Our very first goal we came out with immediately out of the gate is that we will not be the reason any particular sub-market takes a rate dive. So for us our strategy was to hold steady and to keep an eye on the communities around us and our competitors."


While defending it's successful practice, RealPage offered this lament:
 

"We are disappointed that, after multiple years of education and cooperation on the antitrust matters concerning RealPage, the DOJ has chosen this moment to pursue a lawsuit that seeks to scapegoat pro-competitive technology that has been used responsibly for years," RealPage said.


Which seems odd to me... if this practice is been "used responsibly for years" we simply must know where and who has been doing it... just to be sure...   Hotels? Airlines? "other" rental companies... all not competing but cooperating against the consumers as a whole?
 

The US and states allege that RealPage violated Section 1 of the Sherman Act by unlawfully sharing information for use in competitors' pricing, and by entering into vertical agreements with landlords to align pricing. RealPage is further accused of violating Section 2 of the Sherman Act through monopolization of the commercial revenue management software market.

RealPage, which is also facing a ban on its software in San Francisco, said the lawsuit is "devoid of merit and will do nothing to make housing more affordable."



"...the lawsuit is "devoid of merit and will do nothing to make housing more affordable."...  Spoken like someone who isn't hard-pressed to find somewhere affordable to live.  GenZ is going to eat you alive.  You reap what you sow.

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  Bertrand Russell And The NWO.
Posted by: Karl12 - 08-24-2024, 01:20 AM - Forum: New World Order - Replies (1)

Pretty expensive to get your hands on a hardback copy these days but Bertrand Russell's 1953 work 'The Impact Of Science On Society' is apparently quite a popular playbook with globalist, technocratic eugenicists like Gates, Kissenger, Brzezinski etc.. and it really does contain some pretty shocking sociopathic (and psychopathic) musings.

Quite a number of his outrageously insane statements found in the book (including purposefully releasing bubonic plague) but for thread purposes here he is discussing how a dictatorship can best mass brainwash, condition and indoctrinate young children into believing 'snow is black'.





'Snow IS Black'




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Quote:• "I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology … Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called ‘education.’

Religion plays a part, though a diminishing one; the press, the cinema, and the radio play an increasing part … It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment.

The subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship … The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive.

Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten.

Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective.

Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. But I anticipate. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray.

Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen".

Bertrand Russell.








There's also this very disturbing (yet very familiar sounding) directive quote about how to destroy free will in young children by 'injections and injunctions'.








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Quote:• "Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so."

Bertrand Russell.







And here's Russell advocating the release of the Black Death:





Quote:• "I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing. There are others, which, one must suppose, opponents of birth control would prefer. War, as I remarked a moment ago, has hitherto been disappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective.

If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full. There would be nothing in this to offend the consciences of the devout or to restrain the ambitions of nationalists"

Bertrand Russell.

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  Secret Underground Cities And DUMBs.
Posted by: Karl12 - 08-23-2024, 03:33 AM - Forum: General Conspiracies - Replies (2)

Lots of speculation over the years about 'black budget' funding of clandestine subterranean government infrastructure, secret underground cities, DUMBs, immense tunnel systems, vacuum 'mag lev' trains etc. and do find the whole subject pretty fascinating.

Personally don't find the concept of 'parallel societies' (or 'breakaway civilizations') too outlandish either and there's some intriguing government documentation being discussed in the vid below on Deep Underground Military Bases (buried up to one mile down) that really makes one wonder.















If a person really wants to go down the (literal) rabbit hole then Richard Sauder has also conducted some extensive research and has uncovered some pretty revealing info in his books on the subject.

Apparently it's no secret that for decades now the technological drilling expertise exists (as do the immense tunnel boring machines) and the presentation and books linked below delve pretty deep into the whole topic.

Richard also describes some relevant reports from Stanford Research Institute (and China Lake NWS) reporting on the feasibility of manned 'undersea' bases as far back as the 1960's.

He also brings up one potential undersea candidate off the US coast near Catalina Island (see 37:30) which I found interesting as for decades the area has been a major UFO/USO hotspot.








• DUMBS & Black Budget - HIDDEN EMPIRE: UNDERGROUND BASES and TUNNEL SYSTEMS









Quote:One of the most mysterious and secretive developments of the 20th Century was the coming together of the Cold War, the national security infrastructure and advances in digging and tunneling technology. The author of Underground Bases and Tunnels: What is the Government Trying to Hide? will present a packed lecture on the extraordinary proliferation of underground military, intelligence and agency facilities and the relationship to the black budget. Dr. Sauder may be the world's leading researcher in this particular area of study.




Free E-Books:


Underground Bases and Tunnels: What is the Government Trying to Hide?

HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT

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  Could we decrease Dementia cases by almost half?
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-22-2024, 09:35 PM - Forum: Diseases & Pandemics - Replies (1)

From Epoch Times: Nearly Half of Dementia Cases Could Be Prevented or Delayed: Lancet Commission

Based on The Lancet: Dementia prevention, intervention, and care: 2024 report of the Lancet standing Commission

The thrust of the 'news' aspect of this is that we had identified 12 risk factors allowing us at least a chance to proactively deal with dementia cases... but now with the addition of two newly identified factors, we could hope for less severe consequence to as much as nearly half of them.
 


But a new report published by the Lancet Commission on dementia estimates that almost half of the cases of the neurological disease can likely be avoided or delayed. Twenty-seven of the world’s leading dementia experts co-authored the report.
These experts point to 12 existing risk factors and two new ones that could prevent or delay dementia.

The two new risk factors included are vision loss and having high low-density lipoprotein or LDL cholesterol.

The previous 12 risk factors include less education, hearing loss, depression, traumatic brain injury, physical inactivity, smoking, diabetes, hypertension, obesity, excessive alcohol consumption, social isolation, and air pollution.


(underline is mine)
 

We have summarised the new research since the 2020 report of the Lancet Commission on dementia, prioritising systematic reviews and meta-analyses and triangulating findings from different studies showing how cognitive and physical reserve develop across the life course and how reducing vascular damage (eg, by reducing smoking and treating high blood pressure) is likely to have contributed to a reduction in age-related dementia incidence. Evidence is increasing and is now stronger than before that tackling the many risk factors for dementia that we modelled previously (ie, less education, hearing loss, hypertension, smoking, obesity, depression, physical inactivity, diabetes, excessive alcohol consumption [ie, >21 UK units, equivalent to >12 US units], traumatic brain injury [TBI], air pollution, and social isolation) reduces the risk of developing dementia. In this report, we add the new compelling evidence that untreated vision loss and high LDL cholesterol are risk factors for dementia.

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  "Shroud of Turin" research now points to Jerusalem and the time of Christ
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-22-2024, 08:57 PM - Forum: Conspiracies In Religions - Replies (6)

A recent study of Shroud has reportedly found evidence that the object has elements of clay and limestone which are particular to the Jerusalem region.  Also, miniscule blood samples are said to be signs of physical wounds...

I wanted to do more research on the shroud and this new study..., 

From Fox: Researchers make new finding on Turin Shroud that many believe was Christ's burial cloth: 'Mysteries of God'

I went to this article, but was thwarted by the old "sign up" or you can't read it...  (like you have to have my name to sell or I can't be told 'the news.')
I went to Google and found links to articles from 1986 to 2002... no help...

I broke down ad asked Brave's search "AI" which apparently can access more than a mere human and found these offered as facts....
 


Recent research has shed new light on the age and authenticity of the Turin Shroud, a linen cloth bearing the image of a man who appears to have suffered physical trauma consistent with crucifixion. The findings suggest that the Shroud may date back to the 1st century AD, around the time of Jesus Christ.

Wide-Angle X-ray Scattering Analysis

Italian researchers from the Institute of Crystallography used a new method called Wide-Angle X-ray Scattering (WAXS) to analyze a small sample of the Shroud’s linen. Their results showed a compatibility with another linen sample dated to A.D. 55-74, suggesting that the Shroud could indeed be 2,000 years old. The researchers noted that their findings would only be valid if the Shroud had been kept under specific conditions (temperatures between 20-22.5°C and relative humidity of 55-75%) for much of its history.

X-ray Analysis of Linen Threads

Another study used X-rays to inspect linen threads from the Shroud, tracing its origin all the way back to the time of Jesus. This analysis contradicts earlier findings dating the Shroud to the Middle Ages.

Blood Analysis

A new analysis of blood samples from the Shroud, conducted by an engineer from the University of Padua, found tiny blood particles showing signs of organ failure, trauma, disease, and radiation. The presence of earth materials typically found in Jerusalem, such as clay and limestone, suggests that the Shroud may have originated in the region.

Conclusion

While the findings are intriguing, they are not without controversy. Some experts have questioned the methodology and conclusions of these studies, citing the possibility of contamination or alternative explanations for the blood and linen samples. Further research and verification are needed to confirm the accuracy of these new findings. Nonetheless, these studies have reignited the debate over the Shroud’s authenticity and potential connection to Jesus Christ.



and another;
 

What is the significance of the presence of jerusalem earth materials in the blood samples?

Based on the provided search results, the presence of Jerusalem earth materials such as clay and limestone in the blood samples from the Shroud of Turin suggests a possible origin of the Shroud in the region of Jerusalem. This finding is significant because it aligns with biblical accounts and historical records that associate the Field of Blood (Akeldama) with Jerusalem.

According to the Acts of the Apostles (Acts 1:18-19), Judas Iscariot, one of Jesus’ twelve apostles, purchased a field with the reward money he received for betraying Jesus and died there, his body bursting open and spilling his entrails. The field was subsequently known as the Field of Blood (Hakeldama).

The presence of Jerusalem earth materials in the blood samples may indicate that the bloodstains on the Shroud originated from this location, potentially linking the Shroud to the events surrounding Judas’ death and the Field of Blood. This finding could support the theory that the Shroud is authentic and dates back to the 1st century AD, around the time of Jesus Christ.

However, it is essential to note that the significance of this finding relies on the accuracy and reliability of the blood sample analysis and the interpretation of the results. Further research and verification are necessary to confirm the authenticity of the Shroud and the Jerusalem earth materials in the blood samples.



I apologize for not finding an attributable source, and my warning that "AI" is far from infallible... but at least it's something around which we might start a conversation.

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  What happened to Jim Stone?
Posted by: Rainmaker - 08-22-2024, 02:05 PM - Forum: General Conspiracies - Replies (3)

Since we don’t have a conspiracy theorist sub forum on here like ATS does…

Does anyone know what happened to him?

I used to enjoy reading his site, even as it jumped from URL to URL. I have been checking the most recent one up until a month or two ago. I decided to check it today and it’s down.

I realize he is controversial and I’m not saying I agree with everything he presented, but it was rather thought-provoking. And as someone who retired from the intelligence field, I could see he occasionally dropped little tidbits that nobody could possibly know unless they were on the inside. In my eyes that lent him some credibility above many others who are out there.

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  PBS "fair and balanced" reporting?
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-21-2024, 06:34 PM - Forum: Decision 2024 - Replies (6)

Once again, the proof is in the pudding...

A PBS anchor pushed the story that Donald Trump had spoken to Benjamin Netanyahu and urged him to delay any hostage negotiations until it was politically beneficial for his campaign.

Of course, the media didn't 'fact check' it, instead they ran with the story, inserting it into the public discourse...

From Fox: PBS host apologizes for reporting Trump pressed Netanyahu to abandon hostage deal: 'This was a mistake'
Subtitled: Netanyahu's office called report a 'complete lie'
 


"PBS NewsHour" anchor Judy Woodruff apologized Wednesday for reporting a story about former President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that both leaders have staunchly denied.

Woodruff posted an apology to X expressing regret for reporting this week that in a phone call, Trump urged Netanyahu to delay a hostage deal between Israel and Hamas until after the 2024 presidential election to benefit him politically.

"This was a mistake and I apologize for it," Woodruff wrote. 



A mistake... a regrettable report... sorry... oops!.  It's Axios and Reuter's fault!
 

She posted, "I want to clarify my remarks on the PBS News special on Monday night about the ongoing cease fire talks in the Middle East. As I said, this was not based on my original reporting; I was referring to reports I had read, in Axios and Reuters, about former President Trump having spoken to the Israeli Prime Minister. In the live TV moment, I repeated the story because I hadn't seen later reporting that both sides denied it."

During a Monday night segment of the PBS News program, Woodruff stated, "The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign."

However, the Israeli Prime Minister's Office denounced Woodruff’s reporting, telling The Jerusalem Post this week that the anchor pushed "a complete lie."



Trumps response was notable...

"I did encourage him to get this over with. You want to get it over with fast. Have victory, get your victory, and get it over with. It has to stop, the killing has to stop," he said.

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  Mobile In Maine
Posted by: CCoburn - 08-21-2024, 06:29 PM - Forum: Member Art - Replies (6)

Mobile In Maine


So back around 2018 when I got my first Dodge Charger I started driving a lot more. I would go on these excursions a few times a week, and travel to all these rural areas pretty much anywhere within a one hundred mile radius of my house.

I started doing a little photography and whenever I saw something that I thought was cool or interesting in some way I would snap a picture of it – ultimately ending up with hundreds.

Initially I had a pretty decent camera but it got damaged and I replaced it with some low-end waterproof thing from Staples; it still did take some fairly decent pictures though.


Hobbit Land

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Me and a friend took a trip to Hobbit Land – about five minutes away.


Actually Hobbit Land is probably closer to ten minutes away by the time you drive through the city and all, and the one-hundred-mile radius estimate isn't exactly right either because I know on many occasions it was closer to two hundred. Way up north, the next state over, and the Canadian border, yeah, that's a lot closer to two hundred.

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  “Something has gone seriously wrong.” Linux/Windows dual boot.
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-21-2024, 04:10 PM - Forum: Computers & Coding - Replies (1)

Just a heads up in case anyone has run into this message...

From ARS Technica: “Something has gone seriously wrong,” dual-boot systems warn after Microsoft update
Subtitled: Microsoft said its update wouldn't install on Linux devices. It did anyway.
 


Last Tuesday, loads of Linux users—many running packages released as early as this year—started reporting their devices were failing to boot. Instead, they received a cryptic error message that included the phrase: “Something has gone seriously wrong.”

The cause: an update Microsoft issued as part of its monthly patch release. It was intended to close a 2-year-old vulnerability in GRUB, an open source boot loader used to start up many Linux devices. The vulnerability, with a severity rating of 8.6 out of 10, made it possible for hackers to bypass secure boot, the industry standard for ensuring that devices running Windows or other operating systems don’t load malicious firmware or software during the bootup process. CVE-2022-2601 was discovered in 2022, but for unclear reasons, Microsoft patched it only last Tuesday.
...
Tuesday’s update left dual-boot devices—meaning those configured to run both Windows and Linux—no longer able to boot into the latter when Secure Boot was enforced. When users tried to load Linux, they received the message: “Verifying shim SBAT data failed: Security Policy Violation. Something has gone seriously wrong: SBAT self-check failed: Security Policy Violation.” Almost immediately support and discussion forums lit up with ​​reports of the failure.

“Note that Windows says this update won't apply to systems that dual-boot Windows and Linux,” one frustrated person wrote. “This obviously isn't true, and likely depends on your system configuration and the distribution being run. It appears to have made some linux efi shim bootloaders incompatible with microcrap efi bootloaders (that's why shifting from MS efi to 'other OS' in efi setup works). It appears that Mint has a shim version that MS SBAT doesn't recognize.”

The reports indicate that multiple distributions, including Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Zorin OS, and Puppy Linux, are all affected. Microsoft has yet to acknowledge the error publicly, explain how it wasn’t detected during testing, or provide technical guidance to those affected. Company representatives didn’t respond to an email seeking answers.



Since several members here are tinkering with Linux, I felt it might be a good idea to share this....

[Edit to add]

From ZDNet: Windows update breaks Linux dual boot - but there is a fix for some users
 

Although Microsoft has yet to comment on the issue, there is a workaround for Ubuntu users. Here are the steps to solve the problem.

- Disable Secure Boot in the BIOS (how this is done will depend on your PC make and model).

- Log into a user account with sudo privileges.

- Ensure that Secure Boot is disabled with the command mokutil --sb (the output of the command should be SecureBoot disabled. If you don't see that message, reboot, access the BIOS, and make sure Secure Boot is disabled). 

- To manually delete Microsoft's SBAT Policy, open a terminal window and issue the command sudo mokutil --set-sbat-policy delete. Reboot the machine and log back in with the same user to update the SBAT policy. 

- Once you've done this, reboot the machine, access the BIOS, and re-enable Secure Boot. 

This isn't the only issue to affect Secure Boot lately. The last year and a half has seen four vulnerabilities capable of neutralizing Secure Boot such that malicious code could be injected during the boot process.



I hope this helps...

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  US Dept. of Labor keeps lying...
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-21-2024, 03:37 PM - Forum: Propaganda Mill - Replies (14)

In another of nearly countless "corrections" after the fact, and after being used for political claims... the UD Department of Labor once again issues a "corrected" report ... this time indicating making a colossal adjustment downward... the largest since 2009...

From Fox Business: US economy created 818,000 fewer jobs than previously reported
 


The Bureau of Labor Statistics revised down its total tally of jobs created in the year through March by 818,000 as part of its preliminary annual benchmark review of payroll data. That suggests the economy added an average of 174,000 jobs per month during that time period — below the previous 242,000 estimate. On a monthly basis, that amounts to about 68,000 fewer jobs.

It marks the largest downward revision since 2009.



What surprises me is that "news media" ignores that this department almost NEVER makes an accurate report.

Personally, I think this serves as a clear example of why "political appointees" SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED with "REPORTING" responsibilities.

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From ZeroHedge: US Jobs Revised Down By 818,000 In Election Year Shocker, Second Worst Revision In US History
 

Back in March, when most of Wall Street and economists still believed the lies spewed forth by the Biden Bureau of Labor Statistics, which intentionally uses inaccurate, rushed "data" from the Establishment survey which is meant to pad sentiment and make the economy appear far stronger than it is for propaganda purposes (as one can see by the constant monthly downward revisions), we did an in-depth analysis looking at the actual, "uncooked" numbers published by the Philadelphia Fed preview of the annual Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages employment revision, and warned our readers that actual US payrolls are overstated by at least 800,000.

Philadelphia Fed Admits US Payrolls Overstated By At Least 800,000 https://t.co/JZZxweddh9

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) March 28, 2024

Specifically, we concluded that "the BLS had overstated payrolls by 800,000 through Dec 2023 (and more if one were to extend the data series into 2024)" and added that "it's truly statistically remarkable how every time the data error is in favor of a stronger, if fake, economy."
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As for broader socio-political implications, the reactions are already pouring in with those on the blue side of the spectrum pretending nothing happened, while those on the other side of the aisle raging at what has now become clear propaganda by the highly politicized Department of Labor. To wit, here is RFK, Jr., proposed VP candidate Nicole Shanahan slamming the BLS, and using our data to do so:

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has long been used as a tool of propaganda by the executive branch. Here’s how: they distort definitions, manipulate data, exclude discouraged workers, and revise past reports to create narratives that fit the agenda of whichever administration is in power. This skews the actual economic picture and misleads citizens about the true state of our economy. It’s like a game of musical chairs, and neither side wants to be caught standing when the music stops. The Constitution doesn’t grant the government the authority to track unemployment statistics, so why do we even have this agency? Perhaps it’s time to get rid of it. Their $750M budget could surely be put to better use, and private companies already track U.S. unemployment for free. Win-win.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has long been used as a tool of propaganda by the executive branch. Here’s how: they distort definitions, manipulate data, exclude discouraged workers, and revise past reports to create narratives that fit the agenda of whichever… https://t.co/IANDELO9G9

— Nicole Shanahan (@NicoleShanahan) August 21, 2024
We agree: back in March we concluded our article, which predicted today's revision with near 100% accuracy, by warning that the staggering size of the revised data "is also why nobody in the mainstream media - which is now nothing more than the PR smokescreen for the Biden puppetmasters, the government and the deep state - will ever mention this report."

Today it will be more difficult for the propaganda press to ignore it.


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  Cooking with gas!
Posted by: Tecate - 08-21-2024, 02:08 PM - Forum: Food & Cooking - Replies (7)

So, my wife and I inherited my In-laws house (long story that I’ve told before), and before my MIL passed I was going to have her teach me how to cook Mexican dishes (she was a phenomenal cook).

But she had and now we have her six burner stove. I’m having trouble figuring out how to get the small burners turned down low enough for a slow simmer. Perhaps there’s some device to raise the pot further above that I can’t find in her huge cupboard of cookware? My wife really doesn’t cook often and is no help.

I’m looking at you Augustas and FCD, as I know that you both have big gas stoves and would know…

Anyone else that knows, please chip in.

ETA, I was brought up with electric appliances so it’s pretty new to me.

Tecate

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  Ignore Button
Posted by: midicon - 08-21-2024, 04:37 AM - Forum: Board Questions & Business - Replies (20)

Just curious as to what the 'ignore' button does. We had a similar thing on ATS yonks ago. I never did use it though. Does it prevent someone seeing one's post and vice versa?

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  Ready for another round of COVID vaxes?
Posted by: Maxmars - 08-21-2024, 01:02 AM - Forum: Diseases & Pandemics - Replies (5)

It turns out that we have reportedly experienced a "summer surge" of COVID... and thus the FDA is anticipating approval of a new round of what they still refer to as "vaccines."

From CNN: FDA may greenlight updated Covid-19 vaccines as soon as this week, sources say
From ARS Technica: This year’s summer COVID wave is big; FDA may green-light COVID shots early

The backstory is attributed to 'unnamed sources who know these things'... I can't imagine why they would propagate hearsay, but hey, this is America.
 


The agency is expected to greenlight updated mRNA vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech that target a strain of the virus called KP.2, said the sources, who declined to be named because the timing information isn’t public. It was unclear whether the agency simultaneously would authorize Novavax’s updated shot, which targets the JN.1 strain.


I really can't get passed the "head scratching" nature of refusing to call it targeted gene therapy, or never mentioning the fact that as far as 'prevention' or 'containment' it is utterly ineffective.  But that's just me.
 

Last year, the FDA gave the green light for the 2023–2024 COVID shots on September 11, close to the peak of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in that year's summer wave. This year, the summer wave began earlier and, by some metrics, is peaking at much higher levels than in previous years.

Currently, wastewater detection of SARS-CoV-2 shows "very high" virus levels in 32 states and the District of Columbia. An additional 11 states are listed as having "high" levels. Looking at trends, the southern and western regions of the country are currently reporting SARS-CoV-2 levels in wastewater that rival the 2022–2023 and 2023–2024 winter waves, which both peaked at the very end of December.



I wont belabor my opinion, you can probably guess it...  Let's hope that this round actually qualifies as "safe and effective' versus the ongoing reality "sudden and unexpected."

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  Dead or on the lamb?
Posted by: guyfriday - 08-21-2024, 12:31 AM - Forum: Crime - Replies (63)

Did this guy really die in the boat sinking, or did he use this as a way to go on the lam?
How did the superyacht carrying tech tycoon Mike Lynch sink off Sicily? | Shipping News | Al Jazeera

Quote: One person has died and six are missing after a superyacht capsized off the Sicilian coast in the Mediterranean on Monday at about 5am (03:00 GMT) after it was hit by stormy weather caused by a “waterspout” – or mini tornado – according to Italian authorities.
 
The cruise had reportedly been undertaken to celebrate the acquittal of British tech tycoon Mike Lynch, who has been missing, in a fraud trial in the United States in June.

His co-defendant in the trial, Steve Chamberlain, who was also acquitted in June, was killed after being hit by a car on Saturday.

Some of the people that are still presumed missing are:
Quote: 
  • Mike Lynch, 59, a British-Irish technology businessman who co-founded British tech company Autonomy in 1996 and was once likened to Microsoft founder Bill Gates; he earned a PhD from Cambridge University
  • Hannah Lynch, 18, Mike’s daughter, who had just completed her final school exams and was due to begin a degree in English at the University of Oxford this September
  • Jonathan Bloomer, the 70-year-old British chairman of Morgan Stanley bank and the Hiscox insurance company, was confirmed as missing by Hiscox CEO Aki Hussain
  • Judy Bloomer, Jonathan’s wife, was also confirmed as missing by Hussain
  • Chris Morvillo, from British international law firm Clifford Chance, was confirmed to be missing by Salvatore Cocina, head of the Civil Protection in Sicily

My focus here is on the missing Mike Lynch. From a CNN report about this case he was involved in:
British tech entrepreneur Mike Lynch acquitted in fraud trial over Hewlett-Packard deal | CNN Business
Quote:Autonomy founder Mike Lynch was acquitted of fraud Thursday by a jury in San Francisco, a major win for the software entrepreneur who has been dogged by legal problems since the disastrous sale of his company to Hewlett-Packard (HP) for $11 billion in 2011.
Representatives for Lynch and US prosecutors said Lynch was acquitted on all 15 charges — one count of conspiracy and 14 counts of wire fraud.
Former Autonomy finance executive Stephen Chamberlain, who faced the same charges at trial alongside Lynch, was also acquitted on all counts, the Lynch representative said.

Why does this matter? 
Lynch got off pretty easy in San Francisco and guess who else made out from his bad sale... Nancy Pelosi. From a CBS Money Watch dated June 20th 2011
 Pelosi, Boehner and More: Where Lawmakers Put Their Money - CBS News
Quote: Nancy Pelosi. She and her husband Paul reported losses of between $400,000 and $4 million from the sale of high profile tech company stock holdings:
  • Cisco: sold 100%. Capital loss of $100,000-$1 million
  • Ebay: sold 100%. Capital loss of $100,000-$1 million
  • Yahoo: sold 100%. Capital loss of $100,000-$1 million
  • Motorola: sold 100%. Capital loss of $100,000-$1 million
Only Motorola isn't based in Pelosi's Silicon Valley backyard. (For the record, she doesn't represent Silicon Valley, but rather San Francisco, 30 miles north.)That might be a big headache if the Pelosis relied on her $230,000 earned income to make ends meet. But that's not an issue. It looks like those tech stock losses were in fact a smart tactical move to help the couple offset a massive capital gain they also booked in 2010, courtesy of Silicon Valley's cash machine: Apple. The Pelosis sold a chunk of their Apple holdings and reported a capital gain of between $1 million and $5 million. For the record, the stock has gained another 40 percent since the Pelosis sold last spring. And hey, they still report owning between $500,000 and $1 million of Apple stock.

oddly the earnings of HP aren't listed yet it's well known that Pual Pelosi owns shares of it. This loss that was created by Lynch through his sale of Autonomy Corporation PLC over valued price cause HP to have a significant loss. Now the question left was this loss created on purpose to offset surprise gains Apple made that year? Now to his odd disappearance. 

From the first article I posted:
Quote: His co-defendant in the trial, Steve Chamberlain, who was also acquitted in June, was killed after being hit by a car on Saturday.

Was Lynch afraid that he would be killed next, and was a rampaging Nancy Pelosi behind Chamberlains death? If Lynch thought this then it might explain why he sank with the boat so to speak. I know, some of you here will call me nuts, but when Nancy Pelosi thought her husband Paul was fooling around, that weird Hammer to the head incident happened. She also was involved in forcing Biden to leave the Presidential Campaign and could very well be one of the secret hands pulling the strings behind the scenes of Government in the US. Let's not forget that weird hand thing during her State of the Union Speech with Trump where she tore the speech in half. 


What does the community think; "Do you think that Mike Lynch did die in the "accident", or do you think this was about going on the run?"

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  Our Desire For Productive Political Debate
Posted by: DontTreadOnMe - 08-20-2024, 10:59 AM - Forum: Board Questions & Business - Replies (1)

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread390206/pg1

Here on DenyInorance.com will not tolerate new topics based on divisive and distracting innuendo, rumors, or lies.
 
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We will examine the merits of the issues. We will analyze the candidate platforms. We will seek the truth.

We will seek to make a difference.
 
If not us, then who? If not now, then when?
 
Those who enjoy concocting broad-stroke insults direct toward those not of their political persuasion may jerk their knee and call this a restriction of free expression... so be it.

But the overwhelming atmosphere of hate, insults, and over-the-top exaggerations is not desired here on DI. When we see an abundance of disparaging names and hateful condescension, the atmosphere is polluted and discussion turns away from the issues and toward each other. And that, my friends, is playing into the political game "THEY" want you to play.
 
Therefore:
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  Central Mexico seasonal weather
Posted by: Tecate - 08-19-2024, 10:23 AM - Forum: Chit Chat - Replies (3)

Good day folks!!

I’m down south with wife and family for a couple of weeks before heading back north to work, so I thought that would show you how the weather can get here in Guadalajara during the rainy season.

I’ll post a couple of photos of 2018’s hail storm.         . Hopefully they show!

So for some reason I have never been here at this time of year, usually in December when it’s cold (-4°C overnight to 24°C during the day) or early spring April/May when it’s freaking hot and dry.

Now it’s about 15°C in the morning and 25°C in the afternoon/evening, and humid, very humid as it rains almost every evening and overnight.

For those unaware, Guadalajara is essentially a mile high city situated in a large valley/high desert area.

We haven’t had any heavy hail thankfully, as I don’t relish going up onto the roof to cover the solar panels!

It’s amazing to see the difference between the seasons here and the northern Alberta seasons that I am used to.

Mods, we don’t have a weather forum, and I don’t see any conspiracy or other forum to post it in.

Tecate

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  Your Privacy Matters
Posted by: theshadowknows - 08-17-2024, 07:39 PM - Forum: Board Questions & Business - No Replies

It has recently come to our attention that there's been discussion of excessive trackers on DI being blocked by users browsers. I ask you to take a look for yourself. There are only two, not including the font awesome icons, which are pretty much an internet standard. It's just Cloudflare and Impact, the latter of which is our small ad provider. The single block ad you may have seen on the index page, for NordVPN I might add, which has a stellar reputation for user privacy. 

Our Privacy Report & Our Privacy Policy (not yet amended to include that we no longer use Google Analytics) 
 

Quote:Privacy Badger (privacybadger.org) is a browser extension that automatically learns to block invisible trackers. Privacy Badger is made by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit that fights for your rights online.

Privacy Badger blocked 4 potential trackers on denyignorance.com:

static.cloudflareinsights.com
kit.fontawesome.com
use.fontawesome.com
nordvpn.sjv.io

While I have your attention on the subject, I urge you all to visit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, specifically the Surveillance Self-Defense toolkit. Never leave your security up to someone else.

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