England; Two arrested after multiple people stabbed

[quintessentone]

Not skin color.

It's culture.

Oh for some, yes it is indeed skin color.

"Discrimination against migrants in the UK can occur for multiple reasons. Some of these, like ethnicity, skin colour, or religion, are shared with ethnic minorities born in the UK. Other reasons, such as having foreign qualifications or accents, are more likely to affect the foreign-born. Disentangling the precise reasons behind discriminatory behaviours is difficult since multiple factors might be at play at the same time. For example, a worker born in Somalia might be discriminated against on account of their ethnicity, race, religion, accent, or foreign credentials."

"In general, people living in the UK are relatively tolerant towards immigrants. In 2022, only 5% of the British public said they would not like to have immigrants as neighbours (Figure 1). This is a common indicator of prejudice in research, which captures underlying attitudes towards migrants as well as social norms that make it unacceptable to express hostility. The share of people expressing prejudice towards migrants in Britain was one of the lowest in the world and notably smaller than in other democracies like Japan (30%), Greece (26%), Italy (18%), and even France (10%)."

Migrants and discrimination in the UK - Migration Observatory - The Migration Observatory

[SurferSoul]

What I took issue with you judging others on their actions (panicking) during this attack, calling them cowards. Then when I called you out on it, you said you were joking but you did not tell anyone you were joking at the time you posted it.

Yea I did it was right in the post and I have already shown you exactly what I said. I didn’t call anyone cowards either but I stand by panicking is the worst thing you can do in a dangerous situation. 

Here is what I said in jest. “Instead of stumbling over those cowering on the floor they should have used them as human shields, lol sorry couldn’t resist” yes a joke in bad taste but a joke non the less, that’s what lol means. Go back and read it. Stop making things up or are you one of these that can’t admit a mistake and insist on just doubling down with BS?

[SurferSoul]

 

yeah fairly certain nobody goes out looking to confront nutters with knives or any other weapons for that matter, my point was and is it helps if you know how to defend should the worst come to the worst.

[quintessentone]

Yea I did it was right in the post and I have already shown you exactly what I said. I didn’t call anyone cowards either but I stand by panicking is the worst thing you can do in a dangerous situation. 

Here is what I said in jest. “Instead of stumbling over those cowering on the floor they should have used them as human shields, lol sorry couldn’t resist” yes a joke in bad taste but a joke non the less, that’s what lol means. Go back and read it. Stop making things up or are you one of these that can’t admit a mistake and insist on just doubling down with BS?

This is exactly what you posted:

"I read that people were trampling over others in their panic to get away, utterly pathetic, far better to use those cowering idiots on the floor as human shields! lol"

Nowhere did you say that was a joke, an lol does not denote a joke only that you thought what you just posted was funny.

Anyway, I see where you are coming from that you think people fleeing for their lives in a train car basically caged with nowhere to go are pathetic because they panicked and tried to get away. 

The lol part where using the cowering idiots as human shields for yourself, is funny? That's what is pathetic.

[andy06shake]

yeah fairly certain nobody goes out looking to confront nutters with knives or any other weapons for that matter, my point was and is it helps if you know how to defend should the worst come to the worst.

Most normal grown-up sane adults don't go out looking to confront nutters with knives.

Unfortunately, a lot of little neds do exactly that surfer.

That being confront one another with mum's kitchen knives, attempt to hassle other people, via robbery, or simply to scare them, so as to look big to their mates.

They make a sport out of it.

And go on tour with pals, to find others who are up for the same sort of carnage and fighting they are. 

They are pretty much playing the same game the casual did in the 90s.

Only with smartphones and social media as opposed to Nokia 3210s. 

It is indeed most helpful if you know how to defend yourself.

Even better if you learn how to read situations and people so you dont have to.

On the topic of the mass stabbing terror attack through.

The poor sods only realistically had the one direction of travel, that being away from the mad bastard stabbing passengers at will.

[Moon68]

Yea I did it was right in the post and I have already shown you exactly what I said. I didn’t call anyone cowards either but I stand by panicking is the worst thing you can do in a dangerous situation. 

Here is what I said in jest. “Instead of stumbling over those cowering on the floor they should have used them as human shields, lol sorry couldn’t resist” yes a joke in bad taste but a joke non the less, that’s what lol means. Go back and read it. Stop making things up or are you one of these that can’t admit a mistake and insist on just doubling down with BS?

Tongue in cheek humor here is like food in a Communist Utopia...

Not everyone gets it


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[Moon68]

Oh for some, yes it is indeed skin color.

"Discrimination against migrants in the UK can occur for multiple reasons. Some of these, like ethnicity, skin colour, or religion, are shared with ethnic minorities born in the UK. Other reasons, such as having foreign qualifications or accents, are more likely to affect the foreign-born. Disentangling the precise reasons behind discriminatory behaviours is difficult since multiple factors might be at play at the same time. For example, a worker born in Somalia might be discriminated against on account of their ethnicity, race, religion, accent, or foreign credentials."

"In general, people living in the UK are relatively tolerant towards immigrants. In 2022, only 5% of the British public said they would not like to have immigrants as neighbours (Figure 1). This is a common indicator of prejudice in research, which captures underlying attitudes towards migrants as well as social norms that make it unacceptable to express hostility. The share of people expressing prejudice towards migrants in Britain was one of the lowest in the world and notably smaller than in other democracies like Japan (30%), Greece (26%), Italy (18%), and even France (10%)."

Migrants and discrimination in the UK - Migration Observatory - The Migration Observatory

The context of my remark was in response to the insinuation that FF was being racist by posting data points denoting criminal behaviors.

That paper is based on the premise of native prejudice, a biased paper.

It's about a clash of cultures not race. Why is that so difficult to understand?

[quintessentone]

The context of my remark was in response to the insinuation that FF was being racist by posting data points denoting criminal behaviors.

That paper is based on the premise of native prejudice, a biased paper.

It's about a clash of cultures not race. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Those are all mote points considering the majority of U.K. citizens don't have any issues with migrants.

[andy06shake]

Those are all mote points considering the majority of U.K. citizens don't have any issues with migrants.

The United Kingdom was built by successive waves of immigrants.

Something the Gammon may realise if they actually ever bothered to open a history book.

Most people in the UK simply wish to get on with the day and live and let live by my estimation.

Do we have problems with immigration and immigrants, yes.

But it's hard to hate someone for simply wanting a better life for themselves. 

If i lived in some of the hell holes they are forced to endure, i would want out and off to a better place, that's for sure.

[Moon68]

Those are all mote points considering the majority of U.K. citizens don't have any issues with migrants.

I believe you've lost the plot regarding the CONTEXT of my post.

FF put up data points of crime stats and it was insinuated that it was racist to do so.

My assertion stands whether one thinks it's moot (or mote in your case).