England; Two arrested after multiple people stabbed

[quintessentone]

There were heroes there that day!

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"Officials have said the casualties would have been far worse if not for the actions of the “heroic” railway worker who tried to stop the attacker on the train and the driver who arranged for the train to be diverted to a nearby station."

"“In a moment of crisis, Sam did not hesitate as he stepped forward to protect those around him,” LNER managing director David Horne said. “His actions were incredibly brave, and we are so proud of him, and of all our colleagues who acted with such courage that evening.”"

"Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood on Monday paid tribute to him saying he “ran toward danger, confronting the attacker for a sustained period of time, and stopped his advance through the train.”"

"Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood on Monday paid tribute to him saying he “ran toward danger, confronting the attacker for a sustained period of time, and stopped his advance through the train.”"

"Alexander also paid tribute to emergency services and, in particular, the train driver, “who had the presence of mind to phone the signals in Network Rail and get the train onto that slow line into Huntingdon station and a place of safety.”"

"Train driver Andrew Johnson told ITV News: “I was only doing my job. It was my colleague who is in hospital who was the brave one.” Johnson, from Peterborough, served in the Royal Navy for 17 years, according to LNER."

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Many heroes doing whatever they could that day!

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"Another witness, Thomas McLachlan, told the BBC: “There were definitely many heroes on that day, many kind people who just wanted to help those around them – people handing out blankets, hand warmers.”McLachlan said he saw one injured man who had been slashed in the face. He and another witness told local media that he heard the man had been “trying to protect a young girl from being attacked” when he was stabbed."

‘Heroic’ actions of train employee and driver saved many lives in England stabbing attack, police say

[Oldcarpy2]

There were heroes there that day!

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"Officials have said the casualties would have been far worse if not for the actions of the “heroic” railway worker who tried to stop the attacker on the train and the driver who arranged for the train to be diverted to a nearby station."

"“In a moment of crisis, Sam did not hesitate as he stepped forward to protect those around him,” LNER managing director David Horne said. “His actions were incredibly brave, and we are so proud of him, and of all our colleagues who acted with such courage that evening.”"

"Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood on Monday paid tribute to him saying he “ran toward danger, confronting the attacker for a sustained period of time, and stopped his advance through the train.”"

"Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood on Monday paid tribute to him saying he “ran toward danger, confronting the attacker for a sustained period of time, and stopped his advance through the train.”"

"Alexander also paid tribute to emergency services and, in particular, the train driver, “who had the presence of mind to phone the signals in Network Rail and get the train onto that slow line into Huntingdon station and a place of safety.”"

"Train driver Andrew Johnson told ITV News: “I was only doing my job. It was my colleague who is in hospital who was the brave one.” Johnson, from Peterborough, served in the Royal Navy for 17 years, according to LNER."

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Many heroes doing whatever they could that day!

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"Another witness, Thomas McLachlan, told the BBC: “There were definitely many heroes on that day, many kind people who just wanted to help those around them – people handing out blankets, hand warmers.”McLachlan said he saw one injured man who had been slashed in the face. He and another witness told local media that he heard the man had been “trying to protect a young girl from being attacked” when he was stabbed."

‘Heroic’ actions of train employee and driver saved many lives in England stabbing attack, police say

From your source:

"The train worker, who was critically injured after confronting the attacker, has been named as 48-year-old Samir Zitouni, who has worked for LNER for more than two decades."

From Algerian descent.

Hope the racist posters on here don't have their heads explode.....

[quintessentone]

From your source:

"The train worker, who was critically injured after confronting the attacker, has been named as 48-year-old Samir Zitouni, who has worked for LNER for more than two decades."

From Algerian descent.

Hope the racist posters on here don't have their heads explode.....

He did what he could do, with what he had. Courage and self-sacrifice to save others.

Let their heads explode.

[Ray1990]

Your city black population is 4%.
Our city black population is 16%.
With that demographic comes crime problems.
That's the uncomfortable truth of it.

If they're not black they're brown!

Poverty and degradation of human morals makes little waste of spaces but yeah, Britain is being overrun by boat people but the uncomfortable truth is America has it worse?

Don't answer that it's genuinely tongue in cheek.

it seems I find pity where you find hate, poverty and the degradation of human morals knows no race. If you think they do I genuinely suggest you get to know those other groups. Poverty isn't always about economics either as I'm sure you know, I do question what a black lad in the city has that one on the Bayou doesn't and the answer always looks the same regardless of race.

Do you honestly think it's a question of skin colour?

[andy06shake]

Also the worst bullying isn’t physical violence but mental/emotional abuse, constant defamation, nasty jokes, lies a demoralising someone breaks a person quicker and more effectively than any beatings.

I mean i get where you're coming from, and kind of want to agree.

Bullies are the lowest of the low, they thrive off the poor sods willing to put up with the likes of mental abuse. 

But some of the tankings I've seen some people take, i don't know about demoralised, but certainly hospitalised.

There are some really nasty people in this world who take great pleasure in hurting others.

And that's not just with the likes of unkind words or jibes.

Take for instance, the animal responsible for this rampage.

[SurferSoul]

Well you did say you never faced anyone with a knife but had faced threats with other weapons, well none of these people faced their attacker because the stabber stabbed then moved on. No facetime there at all, so it does not equate to any your experiences IMO. Then the realization of what was happening and everyone trapped and nowhere to go. 

I'm not asking about your previous training, nor does it have any bearing on what happened here as I was trying to point out to you. Maybe we will hear from some of the victims with various training as to why nothing could have been done under these circumstances.

Oh please, your follow up post to this says otherwise. At least one person did face up to the attacker. All I stated in my first post in this thread is that people should learn martial arts, where is the harm in some practical self defence skills? What’s your problem with that exactly? Or do you just have a problem with me? 

If previous training doesn’t have any bearing then why do security guards train? Why do police train etc.. don’t be ridiculous.

[SurferSoul]

I mean i get where you're coming from, and kind of want to agree.

Bullies are the lowest of the low, they thrive off the poor sods willing to put up with the likes of mental abuse. 

But some of the tankings I've seen some people take, i don't know about demoralised, but certainly hospitalised.

There are some really nasty people in this world who take great pleasure in hurting others.

And that's not just with the likes of unkind words or jibes.

Take for instance, the animal responsible for this rampage.

Just stating a fact mate, it’s a vicious violent world out there at times, which is why I advocate for self defence training, particularly martial arts as it’s good for you regardless, like a fitness routine. 

It was discovered by professional torturers no less that physical pain only works up to a certain degree. Also a victim of physical abuse will have cuts and bruises as obvious signs, a victim of mental abuse alone has nothing as obvious to show but will often go on to engage in self harm or even suicide depending on the severity of abuse and any support they may or may not have been able to find. I believe it’s something we should all be more aware of.
I forgot to congratulate you on the time you used a can of pop effectively against someone with a knife, masters at self defence across the world would tip there hats to you no doubt for improvisation.

[quintessentone]

Oh please, your follow up post to this says otherwise. At least one person did face up to the attacker. All I stated in my first post in this thread is that people should learn martial arts, where is the harm in some practical self defence skills? What’s your problem with that exactly? Or do you just have a problem with me? 

If previous training doesn’t have any bearing then why do security guards train? Why do police train etc.. don’t be ridiculous.

What I took issue with you judging others on their actions (panicking) during this attack, calling them cowards. Then when I called you out on it, you said you were joking but you did not tell anyone you were joking at the time you posted it.

Just reading that the railway worker who put himself in the path of the moving attacker is in stable but critical condition. It's not clear if or how the worker attempted to stop the attacker or if he just used his body to shield others. It is clear that he was being stabbed multiple times by the attacker and I'm not sure that even someone knowing martial arts could have stopped him what with being caught unawares and with those type of serious injuries inflicted so quickly.

They are calling for the urgent need for enhanced safety measures, which was not elaborated on further. One thing for sure is that protective gear is a must for the railway workers if there it is a sad reality that these types of mass stabbings are increasing.

[andy06shake]

Just stating a fact mate, it’s a vicious violent world out there at times, which is why I advocate for self defence training, particularly martial arts as it’s good for you regardless, like a fitness routine. 

It was discovered by professional torturers no less that physical pain only works up to a certain degree. Also a victim of physical abuse will have cuts and bruises as obvious signs, a victim of mental abuse alone has nothing as obvious to show but will often go on to engage in self harm or even suicide depending on the severity of abuse and any support they may or may not have been able to find. I believe it’s something we should all be more aware of.
I forgot to congratulate you on the time you used a can of pop effectively against someone with a knife, masters at self defence across the world would tip there hats to you no doubt for improvisation.

Oh, i understand the psychology behind the claim.
 
I've seen some poor saps take kickings every day of their lives just because the other person could.

One of the poor fellas ended up killing himself down to the physical and mental torture he was made to endure. 

And you're correct, we should be more aware of bullying and abuse, do more about it, intervene, and stop it from happening.

As to that knife fight, i was lucky Surfer, i managed to block a slash with my forearm, took the wound, which gave me the opportunity to smash the fool square in the face with the can.

It could just as easily have gone the other way, if he had not been so aggressive and overconfident.

But it was not something that was planned, merely a reaction to some mad bastard with a blade, which happened to go my way. 

I would turn around and head in the other direction in this day of age.

[Moon68]

If they're not black they're brown!

Poverty and degradation of human morals makes little waste of spaces but yeah, Britain is being overrun by boat people but the uncomfortable truth is America has it worse?

Don't answer that it's genuinely tongue in cheek.

it seems I find pity where you find hate, poverty and the degradation of human morals knows no race. If you think they do I genuinely suggest you get to know those other groups. Poverty isn't always about economics either as I'm sure you know, I do question what a black lad in the city has that one on the Bayou doesn't and the answer always looks the same regardless of race.

Do you honestly think it's a question of skin colour?

Not skin color.

It's culture.