Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Maxmars]

Either way, NATO is being made a fool of 
 

NATO...  or whatever it was after the collapse of the Soviet Union made a fool of itself...

At the risk of being tiresome... "To all things there is a season."

[putnam6]

NATO...  or whatever it was after the collapse of the Soviet Union made a fool of itself...

At the risk of being tiresome... "To all things there is a season."

At the end of the day, thats the point NATO failed its primary mission. Some say it was by design, others do not, and others see it still as a shiny beacon of hope instead of the lap dog of the international MIC conglomerates and the bureaucratic puppet politicians they own.

[sahgwa]

NATO bombed it's own civilians for funding/support/raison d'etre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

The Italians uncovered this and it's kind of been an open secret but once again I digress.

[Freeborn]

Lots of chatter going on about Zelenskyy sabotaging and stalling and BS'ing! 

So yet again its all Zelensky's fault and Putin is free from any blame or responsibility?

[xuenchen]

So yet again its all Zelensky's fault and Putin is free from any blame or responsibility?

Chatter throwing lots at Putin too, but The Zelenskyy sabotage is the problem 

[Freeborn]

Chatter throwing lots at Putin too, but The Zelenskyy sabotage is the problem 

We'll see.
Word was last week that Trump wasn't best pleased with Putin?

[putnam6]

NATO bombed it's own civilians for funding/support/raison d'etre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

The Italians uncovered this and it's kind of been an open secret but once again I digress.

[sahgwa]

Updatey 
 US President Donald Trump has accused Volodymyr Zelensky of harming peace negotiations, after the Ukrainian president said Kyiv would not recognise Russian control of Crimea.
Writing on Truth Social, Trump claimed a deal to end the war was "very close", but that Zelensky's refusal to accept US terms "will do nothing but prolong" the conflict.

Earlier, US Vice-President JD Vance laid out the US vision for a deal, saying it would "freeze the territorial lines [...] close to where they are today".
Ukraine has long said it will not give up Crimea, which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014.
Vance said the deal would mean Ukraine and Russia "are both going to have to give up some of the territory they currently own.."
Zelensky immediately shot down the idea.
"There's nothing to talk about here. This is against our constitution," he said.
Later, after Trump called Zelensky's remarks "inflammatory", the Ukrainian president said: "Emotions have run high today."
Recognising Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea would not only be politically impossible for Zelensky to accept, it would also be contrary to post-war international legal norms that borders should not be changed by force.
 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78jx68d922o

[xuenchen]

Zelenskyy outing himself as a true blue Putin Puppet. 
God help The EU now! 

[sahgwa]

All 'leaders' of nation states are controlled by higher forces. I know Trump is largely controlled by the oil company folks and also to a large degree Zionist and Israeli ties, for example; my question is, who is pulling Zelensky's strings? 
To me personally it smells like European version of MIC, the front-side being NATO, the back side being arms dealers as well as human and organ traffickers.