Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[sahgwa]

More toddlerism between Putin and Zelenski it seems. Nothing progressing. Unfortunately. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/ru...index.html

“If it is not possible to end the war in Ukraine, we need to move on,” he told reporters before departing Paris, where he had held high-level talks with European and Ukrainian officials. “We need to determine very quickly now, and I’m talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable,” he said.
Rubio’s comments point to mounting frustration within the Trump administration at the lack of progress at bringing the three-year full-scale war to a halt.
Asked to clarify what Rubio meant that the US would “move on,” a US official told CNN the secretary of state was talking about the US moving on from negotiations and that the next few days will be important to figure out where things go from here.
A source familiar with negotiations for a Ukraine peace deal told CNN’s Pamela Brown that Rubio was “communicating the president’s views.” Characterizing the administration’s thinking on where things stand in the conflict, the source said, Trump “doesn’t have limitless patience for people to posture and play games.”
“It’s time to get serious,” the source added.

[sahgwa]

More toddlerism between Putin and Zelensky it seems. Nothing progressing. Unfortunately. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/ru...index.html

“If it is not possible to end the war in Ukraine, we need to move on,” he told reporters before departing Paris, where he had held high-level talks with European and Ukrainian officials. “We need to determine very quickly now, and I’m talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable,” he said.
Rubio’s comments point to mounting frustration within the Trump administration at the lack of progress at bringing the three-year full-scale war to a halt.
Asked to clarify what Rubio meant that the US would “move on,” a US official told CNN the secretary of state was talking about the US moving on from negotiations and that the next few days will be important to figure out where things go from here.
A source familiar with negotiations for a Ukraine peace deal told CNN’s Pamela Brown that Rubio was “communicating the president’s views.” Characterizing the administration’s thinking on where things stand in the conflict, the source said, Trump “doesn’t have limitless patience for people to posture and play games.”
“It’s time to get serious,” the source added.

https://www.rt.com/news/615567-western-s...eployment/
 Only six Western states willing to deploy troops to Ukraine – AFPThus far, only six nations, including the UK, France, and the Baltic states - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - have promised to contribute troops, the AFP reported, citing unnamed European officials. The sixth state in the group was not named by the agency.
 Trump Will Walk Away From Ukraine Talks in Days if Moscow and Kyiv Aren’t Serious About Peace, Warns Rubio

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/04...rns-rubio/

If there are no indications the two sides are actually willing to agree to a ceasefire — previous bids to establish such a state have been met with further demands for concessions, conditions, and carveouts — then “the President’s probably at a point where he’s going to say ‘well, we’re done’.”
Remarkably, Rubio appeared to imply that neither Russia nor Ukraine appeared to be engaging properly

[xuenchen]

Good post there sahgwa!

Lots of chatter going on about Zelenskyy sabotaging and stalling and BS'ing! 

The Zel's "strategy" possibly being to sign the Mineral Deal with The U.S. and see if Putin backs off with American Business presence in Ukraine. 

Either way, NATO is being made a fool of 
 

More toddlerism between Putin and Zelensky it seems. Nothing progressing. Unfortunately. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/ru...index.html

https://www.rt.com/news/615567-western-s...eployment/
 Only six Western states willing to deploy troops to Ukraine – AFPThus far, only six nations, including the UK, France, and the Baltic states - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - have promised to contribute troops, the AFP reported, citing unnamed European officials. The sixth state in the group was not named by the agency.
 Trump Will Walk Away From Ukraine Talks in Days if Moscow and Kyiv Aren’t Serious About Peace, Warns Rubio

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/04...rns-rubio/

[sahgwa]

I just want people to stop dying over this nonsense.

[Maxmars]

Either way, NATO is being made a fool of 
 

NATO...  or whatever it was after the collapse of the Soviet Union made a fool of itself...

At the risk of being tiresome... "To all things there is a season."

[putnam6]

NATO...  or whatever it was after the collapse of the Soviet Union made a fool of itself...

At the risk of being tiresome... "To all things there is a season."

At the end of the day, thats the point NATO failed its primary mission. Some say it was by design, others do not, and others see it still as a shiny beacon of hope instead of the lap dog of the international MIC conglomerates and the bureaucratic puppet politicians they own.

[sahgwa]

NATO bombed it's own civilians for funding/support/raison d'etre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

The Italians uncovered this and it's kind of been an open secret but once again I digress.

[Freeborn]

Lots of chatter going on about Zelenskyy sabotaging and stalling and BS'ing! 

So yet again its all Zelensky's fault and Putin is free from any blame or responsibility?

[xuenchen]

So yet again its all Zelensky's fault and Putin is free from any blame or responsibility?

Chatter throwing lots at Putin too, but The Zelenskyy sabotage is the problem 

[Freeborn]

Chatter throwing lots at Putin too, but The Zelenskyy sabotage is the problem 

We'll see.
Word was last week that Trump wasn't best pleased with Putin?