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(05-20-2025, 04:46 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I am of course well aware of the dual nature of this news.
The normy view of it is 'of course you would want to beef up defence!'
The conspiracy view of it is, prepping the civil narrative to continue the war. The perspective is NEED DEFENCE = Continuing war. It's all about perspective. Right?
Lay the seeds of fear to continue conflict. It's all mental.
You mean like pretending Russia will invade the rest of the continent...
It's okay with the Ukrainian TV star turned 2025's Churchill
Sanctions for some buyers of Russian oil? Seizing Russian assets? this "new' pressure should force Putin to the table by 2030
Russia has already mastered the art of lessening the effects of earlier sanctions. What war-turning assets haven't already been seized?
Not to mention, these are usually 3rd World countries buying cheap oil, and we are going to hit them with sanctions?
That's our new bulldog's plan: stall for 4 years, hang on, and hope there's a blue wave to wash over the American political landscape
Ukraine will have to ramp up efforts like this, even then, Russia isnt letting go of the already captured territory.
https://kyivindependent.com/massive-dron...-targeted/
Quote:Ukrainian drones struck Russia's Bolkhov semiconductor plant in Oryol Oblast, which is producing parts for Sukhoi warplanes and Iskander and Kinzhal missiles, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces said on May 21.
The statement comes after Russia claimed to have downed over 150 Ukrainain drones overnight in multiple regions, including 53 in Oryol Oblast.
The region's governor, Andrey Klychkov, initially reported no damage or casualties, but later said that the semiconductor plant and several residential buildings were damaged.
Ukrainian Telegram channel Supernova+ shared what it claimed to be footage of the burning and damaged facility.
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Next week, Ukraine will call on the European Union to take decisive steps to isolate Russia, including seizing Russian assets and imposing sanctions on some buyers of Russian oil, - Reuters.
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(05-19-2025, 03:52 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: The meat grinder is for the attacking forces rather than the defending ones.
But if you are right, Russia will be in Kyiv soon so let's see.
Trump has cards, like sanctions, but he seems unwilling to play them. I wonder what cards Putin might have against him?
Nothing, Putin has nothing against the president of the US, despite what your ignorant liberal news stations tell you in your little land called North Arabia, formerly the fallen kingdom of England.
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(05-21-2025, 08:12 AM)Inspector44 Wrote: Nothing, Putin has nothing against the president of the US, despite what your ignorant liberal news stations tell you in your little land called North Arabia, formerly the fallen kingdom of England.
Sorry, not rising to your bait.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(05-21-2025, 01:11 PM)Inspector44 Wrote: I couldn't care any less what you respond to. You are a disinformation agent from ATS.
a lot of us are
the war won't end until Putin says so. and I don't think he's going anywhere.
eventually he'll die. he's in his 70s I think.
would be great if a stray Uke drone takes him out.
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This guy started off very uber pro Ukraine...listen to a pretty sobering report for the day. This is what I am looking at while also taking what I heard directly from each side into account. Its absured to think Russia will stop before it gets what it asks for. We set Ukraine up for this as a proxy. The blood is on the west here...which is sad because I would rather my side not be the badguy with its pants down. I am sure I am not the only one thinking this at this point...
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So how's Trump's "will end it in 24hrs" war in Ukraine going? I've just heard that his latest 2 hour phone call with his buddy Putin went nowhere.
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(05-22-2025, 12:35 AM)RickyD Wrote: [Video: https://youtu.be/kIFZpzUMZ6g?si=6XFmeiFpXyIISJbf]
This guy started off very uber pro Ukraine...listen to a pretty sobering report for the day. This is what I am looking at while also taking what I heard directly from each side into account. Its absured to think Russia will stop before it gets what it asks for. We set Ukraine up for this as a proxy. The blood is on the west here...which is sad because I would rather my side not be the badguy with its pants down. I am sure I am not the only one thinking this at this point...
100% thanks for the video. I forgot about Willie OAM; he always sounds reasonable and rational, and so does this.
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Unaware of this Ozzie chap, thanks for sharing , all.
Big respect to him for fielding a crew (in USA when I hear crew commander , I think tanks, is this the case there? ) and I hope his treatment goes well. Thinking about maybe irradiated rounds.
If anyone knows what to talk about in regards to real higher level tactical analysis it's this guy along with a slew of others on Youtube.
Government made Youtube and Facebook but they can't totally corral it.
Funny to watch the evolution.
Long story short, it's very slow, disgusting, bloody movement, but Russia is encroaching.
The West doesn't give a flying fuq.
"we" used them for a lot of reasons.
Don't forget that Putin was a Young Leader.
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Even Rutte knows it's over....
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(05-22-2025, 05:19 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Even Rutte knows it's over....
It's okay, my ancestors the Czechs will keep making nice shiny shells and so will Rheinmetall.
When will Goethe tell them it's over because Adrians Leverkuhn stopped the piano?
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