Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[putnam6]

It's okay, my ancestors the Czechs will keep making nice shiny shells and so will Rheinmetall.

When will Goethe tell them it's over because Adrians Leverkuhn stopped the piano?

Ha, I had to look up the reference... It's why I enjoy long-format threads 

So a Faustian bargain, perhaps? Who represents Mephisto

It's not as if any of this should be a surprise. It was always just a matter of time


Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil

@ivan_8848
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RUTTI FRUTTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Norwegians spent 7 billion euros on the war with Russia, but this is not enough for the NATO Secretary General. He says that we must pay until Ukraine wins. ‘Ukraine must win. We must not allow a situation in which this war ends the way it did in Minsk in 2014. Peace must be lasting. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin must never again try to attack Ukraine. And the Norwegian contribution to this, and I repeat the figure, is seven billion euros. This is a colossal amount of money. I sincerely admire this.’

[pianopraze]

Ha, I had to look up the reference... It's why I enjoy long-format threads 

So a Faustian bargain, perhaps? Who represents Mephisto

It's not as if any of this should be a surprise. It was always just a matter of time


Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil

@ivan_8848
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9h

RUTTI FRUTTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Norwegians spent 7 billion euros on the war with Russia, but this is not enough for the NATO Secretary General. He says that we must pay until Ukraine wins. ‘Ukraine must win. We must not allow a situation in which this war ends the way it did in Minsk in 2014. Peace must be lasting. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin must never again try to attack Ukraine. And the Norwegian contribution to this, and I repeat the figure, is seven billion euros. This is a colossal amount of money. I sincerely admire this.’

Sounds like Trump washed his hands with it.

Guess this is going to keep going. Sadly.

[putnam6]

Sounds like Trump washed his hands with it.

Guess this is going to keep going. Sadly.

Yes, it would seem so. Ukraine isn't going to withdraw from any of the regions Russia wants it to withdraw from

[Kurokage]

Sounds like Trump washed his hands with it.

Guess this is going to keep going. Sadly.

Trump said he could end it in 24 hours, I think his buddy Mad Vlad played him like a fool.

[pianopraze]

Trump said he could end it in 24 hours, I think his buddy Mad Vlad played him like a fool.

True.

i care less about politicians being fools and more about us not getting involved. Hope he keeps his ego out of it and we stay the heck out of Ukraine.

[sahgwa]

Just like the recent news was signalling, it is not over till the Cabal says its over.  All this bs about defence and spending and military training for POles is just the scumbags signalling that the war chest must go on.
Putin is playing his part well as the boogie man and killing innocents.  Trump tried but apparently the corrupt MIC and EU machine is more powerful than him. really fuking sad.  
They didnt even try!!!!

[putnam6]

Trump said he could end it in 24 hours, I think his buddy Mad Vlad played him like a fool.

Everybody knows Trump is a bit braggadocious...

How did Putin play him for a fool?

Trump's been President for 150 days, and Russia invaded over 3 years ago?

Where did Putin play Trump as a fool? What altered the direction of the war?

Trump likely could have stopped it BEFORE it started, but after a 3-year head start, with both sides fully engaged physically, mentally, financially, and emotionally. 

It's asking a lot to get them to talk to each other, let alone make a truce.

No matter what he said on the campaign trail and elsewhere.

[Oldcarpy2]

"How did Putin play him for a fool?"

Because Trump keeps saying that Putin wants peace when it is obvious he doesn't?

Etc.....

[putnam6]

Russia is just solidifying the frontlines and thier defenses while Ukraine desperately hangs on.

[RickyD]

I watch a few mappers who focus on the actual provable info...but in most circles like this here it would ve down shouted as propaganda too easily. I watch Willy because he tempers that edge. He was gung ho for Ukraine from the jump...and after going there many times to report from the ground. Also having the military background...and that gaining him many inside sources all over the war. His opinion is not only tempered and realistic...but deep down as much as he wants good to prevail in his opinion...he reports when it isn't.

Its very valuable for news and I had no clue it wasn't more common. Military Summary Channel is another one I like for their actual map. They seem bias to Russia but only allow map changes for geo located reports...everything else is reported but speculative until proven map wise.