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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(03-18-2025, 06:09 PM)putnam6 Wrote: LOL with how the government seems to allocate it, it would have just been siphoned off and not ended up where it needs to be.

Besides it's better to learn fiscal responsibility instead of just throwing money at a problem

Side note 

Ukraine has the lowest poverty rate in the world... 3 years into a devastating war

for perspective America is 18th

Yeah, you don't look after your most needy and vulnerable, obviously.
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(03-18-2025, 05:12 PM)chr0naut Wrote: A wus is someone who is just looking to appease everyone, and doesn't stick to their principles.

A wuss is a foreign woke left wing weenie who sits in front of the camera whining that a different country, America, didn't vote in a nutbag woman and then he adds ... "I am a feminist".  He gets trolled by a foreigner and called governor, showcasing Trudoes failure as a man and a leader, and he quits.  TOTAL WUSS.

If that foreign wimp bag Trudeau were to stand on a street corner in Dallas and spew his garbage that Americans are bad people because they didn't vote for the black vagina, but he's a good feminist ... he'd get beat up by real men.

and yes, that's what he said ... woke foreigner Trudeau got down on America because we didn't vote for the black female and then he added that he's a feminist.   Fuck him.   That black female Harris was a cackling idiot.
make russia small again
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(03-18-2025, 04:47 PM)chr0naut Wrote: How many billions do you think Irish drag queen shows or Peruvian trans porn comics cost?

Wait, what? This whole 'efficiency drive' will have no effect on the bottom line of what US taxpayers will pay? That doesn't actually sound like governmental efficiency at all.

So lets look at this rationally.....


1 - The drag queen shows and trans porn comics around the world add up.  There are tons and tons of waste, fraud and abuse items that are being cut.   Each and every cut of garbage is necessary and counts.

2 - Wait what??  Wait about what?   Yes making the government more efficient does sound like government efficiency.  If we aren't paying for garbage then the money can go to things that are needed, or it can go to paying down the debt or it can go back into the pockets of tax payers.  We will see as time goes on what happens.   It has only been two months so the project of government efficiency is still young.
  
3 - I already did look at it rationally.  You have not.   For some bizarre reason you want the American government to continue to fund a trillion dollars worth of garbage and waste around the world.   To continue to do that is simply retarded.

The defense of continued spending of American tax money on waste, fraud, abuse and bloat by some is insane.  Probably based on some twisted partisan cheerleading.   The whining by foreigners about cuts of waste fraud and abuse in the American system is truly bizarre.   They don't like the gravy train ending, it seems.
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(03-18-2025, 06:01 PM)quintessentone Wrote: None of that would matter if the billionaires and lesser millionaires were taxed to pay their fair share.

You totally deflected from his comments refusing to address them and then posted a left wing slogan that isn't true. 
Is Canada really that boring?
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(03-18-2025, 06:01 PM)quintessentone Wrote: None of that would matter if the billionaires and lesser millionaires were taxed to pay their fair share.

This is interesting, I looked this up once, let’s say I’m a million/billionaire head of a company, say like amazon how do I get ‘paid’? my salary would be taxed so I draw a little salary, but that’s insignificant, what I really get paid in is stock.

1. Stock is not taxed, until it’s cashed.
2. I get a loan on that stock, and I don’t cash the stock.
3. I later get another loan as my stock amount/value rises.

Loans are not taxed, so I pay virtually no taxes. It’s all perfectly legal.

money money money, must be funny, in a rich man’s world 
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Neither side seems really 'down' with stopping their bickering.

 Russia keeps bombing, Ukraine keeps bombing
https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world...mbs-drones
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/m...-in-london
https://www.rt.com/news/614587-sudzha-at...ism-probe/

What a bunch of idiots. 
And Trump just kicked off the weapons train again, we heard from Poland this morning in the news . 
I thought we were going to get out of this mess?
EU is pushing for the bullshit to continue, shouldn't the USA be better than that?
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(03-21-2025, 09:24 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I thought we were going to get out of this mess?
EU is pushing for the bullshit to continue, shouldn't the USA be better than that?

Oh come on. Don't play the naif. Of course it "should", but it isn't. Words aside, the USA acts more like an amnestic psychopath rather than a principled individual. The "peace talks" created news-cycle impressions for partisans to latch on to, and evoked reactions and pivots from other nation-players. Europe's energy infrastructure still has to be threatened a bit more (see the pipeline bombing?) to cajole them into entering the quagmire the USA has created, so they can "keep the peace" and hold Putin at bay while the economic pillaging moves to the next stage, a gentle disentanglement from the remains of the Ukrainian state.
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(03-21-2025, 09:38 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Oh come on. Don't play the naif. Of course it "should", but it isn't. Words aside, the USA acts more like an amnestic psychopath rather than a principled individual. The "peace talks" created news-cycle impressions for partisans to latch on to, and evoked reactions and pivots from other nation-players. Europe's energy infrastructure still has to be threatened a bit more (see the pipeline bombing?) to cajole them into entering the quagmire the USA has created, so they can "keep the peace" and hold Putin at bay while the economic pillaging moves to the next stage, a gentle disentanglement from the remains of the Ukrainian state.

I know that I know that both sides are corrupt and that they are all working towards the globalist nasty end goal, but I know that the innocent part of me wants the USA to not be involved in this mess regardless.  Fantastic I know.
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the best way out of it is to give poland what it wants, lviv and few more regions, to romania what it considers theirs, hungary what it wants and to russia what it wants. leave central region as ukrain and be done with this mess.
everyone is happy except for french and brits )))) they get what they deserve. hahaha))
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(03-21-2025, 06:38 PM)Darkorange Wrote: the best way out of it is to give poland what it wants, lviv and few more regions, to romania what it considers theirs, hungary what it wants and to russia what it wants. leave central region as ukrain and be done with this mess.
everyone is happy except for french and brits )))) they get what they deserve. hahaha))

Who might be able to "give" all that?

I doubt that Ukrainians would be happy with that.
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