Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[UltraBudgie]

Who might be able to "give" all that?

Oh! I know this one!

The City of London.

[Oldcarpy2]

Oh! I know this one!

The City of London.

And our King, of course. :beer:

[putnam6]

Yeah, you don't look after your most needy and vulnerable, obviously.

The unfortunate poverty-stricken people in America use SNAP to purchase 5-6 billion DOLLARS worth of Coca-Cola and Pepsi a year.

One of the many programs DOGE will be looking to make more efiicient

But yeah sending 100 plus billion to Ukraine isn't going to help the poverty situation in the US one Iota

[Oldcarpy2]

The unfortunate poverty-stricken people in America use SNAP to purchase 5-6 billion DOLLARS worth of Coca-Cola and Pepsi a year.

One of the many programs DOGE will be looking to make more efiicient

But yeah sending 100 plus billion to Ukraine isn't going to help the poverty situation in the US one Iota

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It wasn't 100 billion in cash, though?

[putnam6]

It wasn't 100 billion in cash, though?

Never said, suggested, or inferred it was cash... 

100 billion out of American taxpayers' pockets is 100 billion that could improve many Americans lot in life. 

Instead, it's given to a country at war that has no plan for ending the war, just endless military aid and other financial aid

[Oldcarpy2]

Never said, suggested, or inferred it was cash... 

100 billion out of American taxpayers' pockets is 100 billion that could improve many Americans lot in life. 

Instead, it's given to a country at war that has no plan for ending the war, just endless military aid and other financial aid

But, you are suggesting it's 100 billion out of American taxpayer's pockets, which it isn't?

No plan for ending the war? Ukraine agreed to a ceasefire.

Putin wants unacceptable conditions. He has no intention of ending his War.

He is playing Trump for the mug that he is.

[putnam6]

But, you are suggesting it's 100 billion out of American taxpayer's pockets, which it isn't?

No plan for ending the war? Ukraine agreed to a ceasefire.

Putin wants unacceptable conditions. He has no intention of ending his War.

He is playing Trump for the mug that he is.

LOL sure it is, what would have happened to the 100 billion if weren't spent in Ukraine, it would have gone to pay for other shit, that taxes were also taken out of to pay for. 

It's not as if the DoD turns a profit...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli...e-n2619752



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Biden on aid to Ukraine - "It's going to allow pensions and social support to be paid to the Ukrainian people so they have something in their pocket." Biden is guaranteeing pensions and welfare for Ukrainians but can't guarantee aid for Ohio.

American taxpayers have been funding pensions in Ukraine, a notoriously corrupt country, for more than a year. Today in Kyiv, Biden pledged an additional $500 million. 
Meanwhile, Social Security in the United States is on the road to ruin.
"In 2034, Social Security revenues are projected to equal 77 percent of the program’s scheduled outlays, resulting in a 23 percent shortfall. Thus, CBO estimates that Social Security benefits would need to be reduced by 23 percent in 2034. The gap between scheduled and payable benefits would widen to 35 percent by 2096 and would remain stable thereafter," a report from the Congressional Budget Office shows. 

[UltraBudgie]

LOL sure it is, what would have happened to the 100 billion if weren't spent in Ukraine, it would have gone to pay for other shit, that taxes were also taken out of to pay for. 

that's not how money works when you are the government and can simply deficit finance as much spending as you want. like they did during covid, to the tune of several trillion dollars. and that they do all the time with the military budget. taxes exist for many reasons: to shape the income curve, to discourage chaotic asset liquidity in the owner class, as a form of conformity and coercive control -- none of those reasons is "to pay for things for the american people". the national debt can never be paid, the currency trend-line is always inflationary, and the american people have for almost 100 years existed under this somewhat benevolent-to-them system of absolute financial tyranny, and almost no one sees it any more. most americans can't even balance their account, much less understand the difference between household economics and government macroeconomics. it's frustrating, because the ignorance is clearly deliberate and predatory. at this point, on the larger stage, america seems to exist for one reason: to provide unlimited spending and support to a system of propaganda and force-based domination ensuring the perpetuation of a world-spanning system of extractionist capitalism. and it doesn't seem like it's run by the people, for the people, that's for sure.

[Oldcarpy2]

LOL sure it is, what would have happened to the 100 billion if weren't spent in Ukraine, it would have gone to pay for other shit, that taxes were also taken out of to pay for. 

It's not as if the DoD turns a profit...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli...e-n2619752


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Biden on aid to Ukraine - "It's going to allow pensions and social support to be paid to the Ukrainian people so they have something in their pocket." Biden is guaranteeing pensions and welfare for Ukrainians but can't guarantee aid for Ohio.

Still not 100 billion, tho. Let alone the 350 billion Trump claimed.

Have to say, your sources of information seem to be rabid MAGA ones?

[putnam6]

Still not 100 billion, tho. Let alone the 350 billion Trump claimed.

Have to say, your sources of information seem to be rabid MAGA ones?

Keep moving the goalposts, you ask for links and then dismiss them. 

It doesn't matter he won't get any more than what is currently allocated which is all the American taxpayer cares about.