Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[FlyersFan]

Ha, ha, ha, ha...

You are blaming foreigners for American politicians.

I'm fairly sure Americans did all that.

Nope.   I'm pointing out that the poster is just a foreigner with an attitude.

[FlyersFan]

Yes.

The binary choice in the US election system simply sucks.

Yep.  I've been telling people to 'think Libertarian' when they vote ... been saying that for years. 
Unfortunately, this time around the Libertarian was an even worse choice than Biden, Harris or Trump.
SUCKY all around.

[FlyersFan]

Trudeau, a career politician, has won more elections than Trump. In democracies, representatives are chosen by election. Trudeau has won about eight elections. Also, I think he has lost fewer elections than Trump.

By those measures, he has been both popular and successful.

Oh, and he resigned from being PM. He wasn't voted out.

Irrelevant.  He was still inept.   A major wuss of a man too.  Pretty pathetic guy.
And he resigned because he wouldn't have been able to win another election.
Governor Trudeau got trolled, and it made him look even weaker than usual,
which was a hard thing to do.

[FlyersFan]

"MY POINT STILL STANDS - Ukraine counter-invaded. heh."

Why the Hell shouldn't they?

It's a War.

Using that logic, those naughty Allies in WW2 shouldn't have invaded Germany?

WTAF?

True.
Ukraine was invaded.
They have every right to fight back, and do incursions into the invading country.

[quintessentone]

I am a member here with a great attitude and opinions, just like everybody else, who actually does a little research and just does not spew nonsense like some. Some people need to go back to their echo chamber sites where they won't get challenged.

[quintessentone]

Most of all the Governments in the world, play into division, distraction, word salads, and propaganda, and tell the people exactly what they want to hear, but never deliver on their promises, i.e. con job.

  It is the nature of the beast and a necessary evil, till we find another form, timewise though it has been just a blip 250 years tops, we were bound to make some mistakes in our first attempt unless we included the Magna Carta 810 years ago. Even then we could have had the perfect form of human governance several times, but unless it could be defended it is completely unsustainable. That was true in the 13th century and its true today. 

Ive said it hundreds of times the only difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is how they enrich themselves and how they are owned by different special-interest lobbyist groups per party

But the heavy hitters Defense Aerospace, Big Pharma, Big Tech, etc flirt heavily with both. 

That was part of Trump's allure he is wealthy already and he wasn't exactly Republican, throw in the RFKjr Tulsi Gabbard it felt like it spread to more branches of American society than the Progressive Left.

For now, then it will swing back the other way

There can never be progress with it being that way, just saying.

[chr0naut]

Our tax money will not be spent on waste, fraud and abuse like drag queen shows in Ireland and trans porn comics in Peru.   

How many billions do you think Irish drag queen shows or Peruvian trans porn comics cost?

Our taxes wont go down, but what the taxes get spent on will not be so ignorant.

Wait, what? This whole 'efficiency drive' will have no effect on the bottom line of what US taxpayers will pay? That doesn't actually sound like governmental efficiency at all.

Not wasting tax money is a good thing.   The amount of blowback against common sense cuts to waste fraud and abuse is really strange.

So lets look at this rationally.

Lets say that DOGE claims it has cut more than 100,000 federal workers jobs. At an average of $106,462 per year, that represents a potential saving of $10,646,200,000.

So the taxpayers were paying Federal Taxes for the running of the Federal government. And their money will still be collected at the same rate, despite savings.

And then there's also the question of where these alleged savings are going to go. If the taxpayers aren't seeing them, and the government departments aren't seeing the money, where is it that all those billions in tax money is going to go?

All the government departments have always historically vied for their slice of the Federal budget pie, and in turn they do their own mini budgets to do their jobs and to distribute their cut of pie to wherever they deem it to be useful. That is, these guys are really just bean-counters. That is their whole job, and a big part of their bean-counting work is to audit and account the process, in real dollar figures.

There is almost never ever any excess in budget to be spent on things that there isn't a good reason for. And now, the bean-counters are massively understaffed, so it becomes even more likely that money could be misspent, even more than before, because a lot of those who weren't 'efficient' were actually the ones who were auditing the process, and more of those doing the auditing will be moved into budget allocation roles instead. And what happens when some of these savvy people realize that no-one is looking and they won't ever get caught if they put their hand in the 'till?

Then we look at the way the cuts have been made. Willy-nilly and without adequate analysis. So, at a greater cost to the department, there will have to be re-hires, probably at around a 20+% wage hike, to lure them back.

Some initial estimates have suggested that 90% of those roles that DOGE has eliminated, will need to be refilled, and probably at the higher rate that they were offering re-hires.

($10,646,200,000 x 1.2 x 0.9 = $11,497,896,000)

This will actually cost $851,696,000.00 more than what was originally being paid for those 100,000 workers! Such efficient!

[chr0naut]

Irrelevant.  He was still inept.   A major wuss of a man too.  Pretty pathetic guy.
And he resigned because he wouldn't have been able to win another election.
Governor Trudeau got trolled, and it made him look even weaker than usual,
which was a hard thing to do.

A wus is someone who is just looking to appease everyone, and doesn't stick to their principles.

Trudeau was very consistent, even when his popularity waned.

He stepped down when it became apparent that he no longer had the mandate of the people to govern. Also, he had been in office for too long. It was time to move on.

There's a whole lot of recent politicians who have done so, and that rightards have accused of being unprincipled.

[putnam6]

Well there's a whole lot of speculation going on but the Left's DOGE hysteria and histrionics are hilarious 

again DOGE can't fire anybody, DOGE recommends the areas of concern then it's up to the head of the department to make adjustments.

Corporate America routinely has outside consultants make suggestions that corporations act on all the time, including job cuts. 

There's no doubt that Federal departments were bloated and overstaffed. Every friend or family member who has worked for the government always says they are overstaffed and inefficient. Again it was long overdue

Hold on to your lugnuts it's time for an overhaul

[quintessentone]

Well there's a whole lot of speculation going on but the Left's DOGE hysteria and histrionics are hilarious 

again DOGE can't fire anybody, DOGE recommends the areas of concern then it's up to the head of the department to make adjustments.

Corporate America routinely has outside consultants make suggestions that corporations act on all the time, including job cuts. 

There's no doubt that Federal departments were bloated and overstaffed. Every friend or family member who has worked for the government always says they are overstaffed and inefficient. Again it was long overdue

Hold on to your lugnuts it's time for an overhaul

None of that would matter if the billionaires and lesser millionaires were taxed to pay their fair share.