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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(03-01-2025, 09:31 AM)putnam6 Wrote: America needs to fix some of thier domestic issues, like Obama said in 2014 this is a regional war... well past time for Europe to pay for thier security

Obama didn't react in 2014 and didn't send money when Russia invaded Ukraine ... and the world was fine with that.

But now that it's Trump saying we aren't going to send anymore money and we aren't going to send troops ... the left wingers around the world have a melt down and go all TDS.

Hypocrisy.  Retardation.  Absurdity.

If left wing Europe and UK and Canada want to send money ... THEY can send money forever.
If left wing Europe and UK and Canada want to send troops ... THEY can send troops forever.

NOT US ANYMORE.
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(03-01-2025, 09:40 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The needed security measures for Ukraine could happen and will most likely happen with the unified free democratic world players, excluding the U.S.

Fine.  
YOU pay for an unending war.
YOU send your troops for an unending war.
We are done being used by you people.   
The gravy train is over.

Russia is the bad guy.
But the Ukraine government is bad too.
Go ahead and jump in.   Good luck with that.
make russia small again
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(03-01-2025, 09:36 AM)quintessentone Wrote: So far Turkiye is interested in putting 'peacekeeping'(?) boots on the ground in Ukraine.

Educate yourself.

Turkey ... run by nutbag Erdogen ... who wants to establish an Islamic Caliphate in the world with himself at the helm ... who hates any and all Jews and wants them all dead ...  he wants to send Turkish troops and money into Ukraine.   Gee ... that can only be good for everyone, right?   Clown world.
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(03-01-2025, 09:40 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Zelenskyy blew it up.  Not Trump.   

the way this thread is going hot and heavy is making me more and more suspicious that trump told zelenski to blow it up. like financial markets that generate the most profit potential from oscillations, political footplay generates the most powerchange potential from conflict. just thinking to all those years trump spent scripting fake drama for the boardroom scenes of that reality show of his. he's no stranger to it. gets all the eurofret going to pony up, plus z really needs to seem unknuckled to avoid the rope back home. course it's prolly not trump scripting this stuff but some strat-ai. go figure.
(03-01-2025, 09:40 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The needed security measures for Ukraine could happen and will most likely happen with the unified free democratic world players, excluding the U.S.

Good, that's exactly what needs to happen. Even Joe knows...

It's a regional war tired of the left and RINOs pretending it's not. 

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(03-01-2025, 09:48 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: the way this thread is going hot and heavy is making me more and more suspicious that trump told zelenski to blow it up. like financial markets that generate the most profit potential from oscillations, political footplay generates the most powerchange potential from conflict. just thinking to all those years trump spent scripting fake drama for the boardroom scenes of that reality show of his. he's no stranger to it. gets all the eurofret going to pony up, plus z really needs to seem unknuckled to avoid the rope back home. course it's prolly not trump scripting this stuff but some strat-ai. go figure.

LOL don't take make Saturday morning procrastination as anything but that.

This will all blow over and there will be a peace deal signed by Zelensky...sooner or later

question is how many more Ukrainians will be killed and how much moola the EU and the UK will have to pony up? and if they send troops
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Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
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Hilarious that he's all over the place...if true.


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Zelensky says he is ready to sign a minerals agreement with the U.S.


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Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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"Billions unaccounted for and wasted.
Billions accounted for and wasted.
Never ending war that can't be won.".

Did you read what Kellogg said about this?

Please see above.

He disagrees with this.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
How is he "all over the place"?

He still wants security guarantees?

BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5220x56pqt
Trump-Zelensky meeting: I want the US to stand more firmly on our side, says Zelensky after Trump showdown - latest - BBC News

"Volodymyr Zelensky says he wants "the US to stand more firmly on our side", after what he describes as a "tough dialogue" with Trump

He adds that Ukraine is ready to sign the US-proposed minerals deal, but needs security guarantees from Washington".

Pretty consistent, no?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(03-01-2025, 09:40 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Yeah ... democrats and left wing foreigners are whining that Trump is a bully because he kicked Zelenskyy out of the office.   That's absurd.

Zelenskyy screwed the pooch.   The agreement, which was done behind closed doors as is proper, was all set and then Zelenskyy got in front of the cameras and insulted the Vice President and tried to reinsert the demand that America send security (boots on the ground) to Ukraine.  

Zelenskyy blew it up.  Not Trump.   

(and no ... I"m absolutely NOT MAGA  nor am I a Trump fan. )

Did he mention "boots on the ground"?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...



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