Trump says he bombed Iran

[Oldcarpy2]

It has been reported or relayed on a video that this is the first time they used these bunker busters, and they tested one only once, which basically went through a makeshift one or two-storey scenario on the side of a hill where it basically went through dirt and exploded after a 30 foot descent. It was also relayed and explained that Iranian officials were aware of this test and if they were smart would have designed their facilities counter to how this bomb operates, that being, deeper (275-350') and not straight down.

I think they tested quite a few?

[Zaphod58]

It still produced significant fallout.

Estimates suggest it was 50-80% fusion, which would seem to make it cleaner than the earlier thermonuclear tests.

8.3 megatons, never mind 15, means it was big b@stard eh?

No it didn’t. It produced radiation, but it didn’t produce significant fallout. They didn’t release figures for radiation, but a good bit of fallout is from fission materials that aren’t burned in the blast, as well as neutrino releases. A Ripple device burns 99% or more of the fission materials in the blast. There’s very little fallout afterwards.

[quintessentone]

I think they tested quite a few?

Yes, I got that wrong. The question is how did they test them? With this test in the video, is this a representation of how they test these bunker busters?

[andy06shake]

No it didn’t. It produced radiation, but it didn’t produce significant fallout. They didn’t release figures for radiation, but a good bit of fallout is from fission materials that aren’t burned in the blast, as well as neutrino releases. A Ripple device burns 99% or more of the fission materials in the blast. There’s very little fallout afterwards.

That would be the fission trigger i should imagine.

It still produced fallout, significantly reduced due to the fact that the test was a high-altitude airburst.

Detonate the same device at 1000ft above any major city, and you would still get significant fallout and widespread radioactive contamination.

As far as im aware, all nuclear weapons have serious radioactive consequences, so the term "clean nuclear weapon" is a bit of a misnomer.

Plug the data into the likes of "https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/" and the mess an 8.3 megaton blast can make is rather apparent.

Not that i imagine it would require a weapon with such a yield to get the job done.

[xuenchen]

Yes, I got that wrong. The question is how did they test them? With this test in the video, is this a representation of how they test these bunker busters?

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceJr-WJM...=3&t=1394s]

My bet says lots of the BB testing information is highly classified, and for good reasons.

[quintessentone]

My bet says lots of the BB testing information is highly classified, and for good reasons.

One good reason is that the seem to not know what they are doing.

[quintessentone]

One good reason is that they seem to not know what they are doing.

[xuenchen]

My opinion is — there are many, many plans that have been / or have existed on paper for many, many years. Pre-preparation of possible scenarios. 

Choosing to execute, in real time, one of those plans is a different matter.

Given the fact Rome wasn't built in a Day, what differences in time would have had to be considered?

Don't we think they would be constantly updating plans especially with wars going on?

I think maybe they had and used some very very current plans for the Iran attacks on multiple locations using multiple assets and avenues at the same time.

[xuenchen]

One good reason is that they seem to not know what they are doing.

Yep. They got real lucky hitting all those locations and targets all within minutes of each other with all those assets and planes and ships and planning. 

[wrayth]

trump warned them ahead of time to reduce causalities, and it backfired on him cause it gave them plenty of time to move the "stuff" out