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Iran is the Graveyard of American Hegemony
#61
(05-19-2026, 06:59 PM)chr0naut Wrote: You know, in the 80's, the US also fought against Iran. The 'Iran-Iraq' war was said to have ended when the US withdrew their troops from Iraq. Hmm....

Apparently, Iran, a combined theocracy and democracy, have stood on their own feet far too well for US interests.

Iran and the US have been at war for decades. Here’s how it began

But let me use an analogy,

In a football game, if a team just walk off the field before the end of the match, haven't they just forfeited the game and therefore their opponents get awarded the victory?

If a military force withdraws, leaving their opponents in power, then that military force have lost.


You keep naming times when America only showed up to help, where the hell were you when shit hit the fan? This conflict was between Iran and Iraq not America. 

The primary U.S. goal was to keep the Persian Gulf open so global oil supplies would not be cut off. By the time the war ended in 1988, shipping lanes were secure, and the oil trade was flowing safely. The U.S. achieved its objective.

Stop trying to hit America and hit it  Tongue
#62
(05-19-2026, 08:36 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: You keep naming times when America only showed up to help, where the hell were you when shit hit the fan? This conflict was between Iran and Iraq not America. 

The primary U.S. goal was to keep the Persian Gulf open so global oil supplies would not be cut off. By the time the war ended in 1988, shipping lanes were secure, and the oil trade was flowing safely. The U.S. achieved its objective.

Stop trying to hit America and hit it  Tongue

You're bringing up the 80s like modern warfare froze in time.

Back then Iran barely had the capability to threaten shipping beyond mines and speedboats.

Now?

Drone warfare exists...

Anti-ship ballistic missiles exist...

And Iran has spent decades building systems specifically designed to hit carriers, tankers, and Gulf infrastructure from hundreds of miles away.
 
America "kept the lanes open" because Iraq and Iran were exhausted and primitive compared to today.

That doesn't prove invulnerability, it proves the battlefields changed.

Stop flexing Cold War examples like they automatically apply in 2026.

You sound like someone arguing modern air combat with Vietnam stats.

Absolute clown shoes.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#63
(05-19-2026, 08:36 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: You keep naming times when America only showed up to help, where the hell were you when shit hit the fan? This conflict was between Iran and Iraq not America. 

The primary U.S. goal was to keep the Persian Gulf open so global oil supplies would not be cut off. By the time the war ended in 1988, shipping lanes were secure, and the oil trade was flowing safely. The U.S. achieved its objective.

Stop trying to hit America and hit it  Tongue

Have you noticed the title of this thread?

Tongue
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#64
(05-19-2026, 08:43 PM)andy06shake Wrote: You're bringing up the 80s like modern warfare froze in time.

Back then Iran barely had the capability to threaten shipping beyond mines and speedboats.

Now?

Drone warfare exists...

Anti-ship ballistic missiles exist...

And Iran has spent decades building systems specifically designed to hit carriers, tankers, and Gulf infrastructure from hundreds of miles away.
 
America "kept the lanes open" because Iraq and Iran were exhausted and primitive compared to today.

That doesn't prove invulnerability, it proves the battlefields changed.

Stop flexing Cold War examples like they automatically apply in 2026.

You sound like someone arguing modern air combat with Vietnam stats.

Absolute clown shoes.

Hey captain Dumbass, I didn't even bring any of this up that was all Chr0, I was replying to his posts that you obviously didn't read and just started flinging poo. Maybe you should check your own fuckin circus before throwing clown shoes at people and getting pissed off at me Biggrin
#65
(05-19-2026, 08:57 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Have you noticed the title of this thread?

Tongue

It was a nod to the matrix when morpheus says "stop trying to hit me and hit me" to neo
Its all in good fun  Lol except for Andy Idk whats buggering him lol
#66
(05-19-2026, 09:17 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Hey captain Dumbass, I didn't even bring any of this up that was all Chr0, maybe you should check your own fuckin circus before throwing clown shoes at people and getting pissed off at me Biggrin

LoL 

My dumb ass is what it is...

But this is getting out of hand, and i know im ranting.

It's not really at anyone in particular other than the situation...

Not pissed off, just that the world is a different place, full of Captain Dumbasses these days.

And some of them are in control... Lol

But rant over...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#67
(05-19-2026, 09:29 PM)andy06shake Wrote: LoL 

My dumb ass is what it is...

But this is getting out of hand, and i know im ranting.

It's not really at anyone in particular other than the situation...

Not pissed off, just that the world is a different place, full of Captain Dumbasses these days.

And some of them are in control... Lol

But rant over...

Dawww Andy its all love here man im just being a Broccoli
#68
(05-19-2026, 09:40 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Dawww Andy its all love here man im just being a Broccoli

Lol

Always...

And the best way to travel.  Thumbup
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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