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Trump says he bombed Iran
(06-05-2026, 07:39 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Just my family name, mate...

But allegedly thats where it dates back to. 

Never had any sort of DNA test, Orby.

For all i know i could be from Mars or half Chimpanzee(joke any two humans share approximately 99.9% of their DNA). LoL

Polis probably still has it on record all the same...  Lol
Mate the family names thing is quaint yet it means nothing in reality. All this family tree nonsense. Yes it looks real yet you need the facts and that's science. Can you imagine the real family tree (DNA) of the Royals? Bet they keep that to themselves. I will recommend you get tested it's £30 with AncestryDNA and it will give you the facts. You will not believe it when you get the results. All those family stories will be put to the test. Totally fascinating. I went from the family tree haveing a maternal Jewish grandfather to wait for it............. Scots Irish instead from the Appleations mountain range. It's crazy. I'd always made fun of Scot's (with all respect of course in that British Anglo way) and turned out to be 1/4 Scottish in descent  Lol
Ulster might be Viking, Norman  and all that yet they planted them there from all over Europe. For £30 it's a bargain
(06-07-2026, 08:47 AM)andy06shake Wrote: DB the Crusades ended 800 years ago.

It seems to me that the current hostility between nations stems from more modern geopolitics.

Like the 1953 coup, and the subsequent revolution in 1979.

Again, you can't make peace with people whom you bomb.

It just does not take.

And all it serves to achieve is to breed the next generation of terrorists.

Agreed with that. The general public in Iran, in paticular under 30s and females, were supportive of the strikes and freeing Persians from the regime in the first few weeks of war. There was a big turning point when Trump threatened to wipe out an entire civilisation in early April as it went against all the West being a force for good and morally/ethically superior to the regime evidence.

When bombs keep dropping it's human nature to ignore politics and focus on survival - the vast majorirty of Persians were anti regime and pro Western prior to the conflict. My major worry is the longer it goes on and the more hyperbolic language is used the more support the regime will gain and pro-western views will be replaced by militant ones seeking revenge.

There needs to be a clear post-regime plan for Iran if the aim is world peace or decreased nuclear threat as recent wars in ME have proven that failing to have a post-war achievable plan only creates a perfect safe haven for terrorist groups. Prince Pahlavi seems the best and most popular choice but the US seems to have blocked/refused him any role in a post-war governance in Iran.
(06-07-2026, 10:35 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I get it now, ta.

Your much more than welcome. I'll try to stay on topic too   Tumble
(06-05-2026, 09:55 AM)bastion Wrote: Agreed with that - it's not my subject area but pretty sure Celtic tribes in particular Ordovices seemed to have very strong trade routes with general Persia/Ottoman area. Half my family is ancient north Wales/English border and I have a SE Asian gene on that side (HLA-*1502) as was screened for it following a very rare life-threatening adverse reaction to a medication.

Neolithic Britons arrived from Turkey/Anatolia 6-7000 years ago but were pretty much all replaced with the arrival of Celts/Ancient Britons then Romans. Normans, Anglo etc otherwise we'd all be inbred to extinction as there were only a couple of hundred people in UK until around 6000 years ago.

That's pretty amazing having a SE asian gene. Haeding into north Wales yeah you can see it. Not sure about SE asian though. When I'm with the Famers in Snowdonia you do get the Kurdish / eastern Anatolia look. Quite awesome that's stillm there after all these years yet I guess not that far back. Abergele region has ME descent they say bit's fro the Phonecian traders / miners coming for the local products. Hope you're ok from that medical thing btw x
(06-07-2026, 10:40 AM)Orby Wrote: Mate the family names thing is quaint yet it means nothing in reality. All this family tree nonsense. Yes it looks real yet you need the facts and that's science. Can you imagine the real family tree (DNA) of the Royals? Bet they keep that to themselves. I will recommend you get tested it's £30 with nd it will give you the facts. You will not believe it when you get the results. All those family stories will be put to the test. Totally fascinating. I went from the family tree haveing a maternal Jewish grandfather to wait for it............. Scots Irish instead from the Appleations mountain range. It's crazy. I'd always made fun of Scot's (with all respect of course in that British Anglo way) and turned out to be 1/4 Scottish in descent  Lol
Ulster might be Viking, Norman  and all that yet they planted them there from all over Europe. For £30 it's a bargain

You would not be the first person to recommend i get tested Orby.  Lol

An ancestry DNA test is possibly something that may interest me at some point.

One has to ponder all the same.

Is it really a good idea to be providing, for all intents and purpose, God knows who, with a pristine DNA sample?  Lol

Suppose that may be a topic for another thread...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-07-2026, 10:41 AM)bastion Wrote: Agreed with that. The general public in Iran, in paticular under 30s and females, were supportive of the strikes and freeing Persians from the regime in the first few weeks of war. There was a big turning point when Trump threatened to wipe out an entire civilisation in early April as it went against all the West being a force for good and morally/ethically superior to the regime evidence.

When bombs keep dropping it's human nature to ignore politics and focus on survival - the vast majorirty of Persians were anti regime and pro Western prior to the conflict. My major worry is the longer it goes on and the more hyperbolic language is used the more support the regime will gain and pro-western views will be replaced by militant ones seeking revenge.

There needs to be a clear post-regime plan for Iran if the aim is world peace or decreased nuclear threat as recent wars in ME have proven that failing to have a post-war achievable plan only creates a perfect safe haven for terrorist groups. Prince Pahlavi seems the best and most popular choice but the US seems to have blocked/refused him any role in a post-war governance in Iran.

I agree with the above bastion.

Although given what's transpiring around the globe.

And the current geopolitical climate.

Trying to sell any of them on world peace.

Would seem to be a bit like pissing in their pocket and telling them it's raining.

And given the fact that public sentiment in Iran is a mixed bag at the best of times...

It's a doozy.

But bombing them, seemingly at the behest of Netanyahu, only unites them.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-07-2026, 11:46 AM)andy06shake Wrote: You would not be the first person to recommend i get tested Orby.  Lol

An ancestry DNA test is possibly something that may interest me at some point.

One has to ponder all the same.

Is it really a good idea to be providing, for all intents and purpose, God knows who, with a pristine DNA sample?  Lol

Suppose that may be a topic for another thread...

Yeah yeah sorry mate back on topic. Sorry for that, just fantastic value. Back to Trump  Thumbup
(06-07-2026, 10:31 AM)Orby Wrote: You've had a CE! You know what's flying about. Logs if you will. Thhis is all inter connected with the pathways our planets peoples are traveling in.



Two, actually...... Wink2
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(06-07-2026, 09:52 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Nothing happens in a bubble.  Look at what lead up to it.  The attacks, the naval blockades.  I guess Israel could have just surrendered and all died, but just 2 decades after Hitler tried it, I guess they were still a bit sensitive about being genocided again.


Thats true, nothing happens in a bubble. Im just gonna leave the Nakba here for you.
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