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(06-05-2026, 07:13 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I still have no idea what you are on about, or why?
I'm English, born and bred.
So were all of my known relatives.
Obviously I can't go back 7,000 years, like you apparently can.
Let's get back on topic, no sign of a win, a deal, a plan or an end to this War.
No?
Yes totally back on track. Yet it's all interconnected. Log man
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(06-05-2026, 07:16 AM)Orby Wrote: Yes totally back on track. Yet it's all interconnected. Log man 
How so? "Log man"?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(06-05-2026, 07:01 AM)Orby Wrote: Andy you mention the Vikings and the Normans. I do understand where you are there, thing is are you referring to family tradition / trees / hearsay or is that scientific fact from haveing your blood tested?
Just my family name, mate...
But allegedly thats where it dates back to.
Never had any sort of DNA test, Orby.
For all i know i could be from Mars or half Chimpanzee(joke any two humans share approximately 99.9% of their DNA). LoL
Polis probably still has it on record all the same...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-05-2026, 07:01 AM)Orby Wrote: The thing is if they got out of Africa then they had to make it here on some poath and iraqi / Turkey seems the treck from what I researched, at least for Welsh, north Welsh type.
Andy you mention the Vikings and the Normans. I do understand where you are there, thing is are you referring to family tradition / trees / hearsay or is that scientific fact from haveing your blood tested?
Agreed with that - it's not my subject area but pretty sure Celtic tribes in particular Ordovices seemed to have very strong trade routes with general Persia/Ottoman area. Half my family is ancient north Wales/English border and I have a SE Asian gene on that side (HLA-*1502) as was screened for it following a very rare life-threatening adverse reaction to a medication.
Neolithic Britons arrived from Turkey/Anatolia 6-7000 years ago but were pretty much all replaced with the arrival of Celts/Ancient Britons then Romans. Normans, Anglo etc otherwise we'd all be inbred to extinction as there were only a couple of hundred people in UK until around 6000 years ago.
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(06-04-2026, 07:06 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Ukraine is a strategic partner
Therefore, they should enjoy bilateral military integration and joint development of advanced weaponry with the Pentagon
Just like Israel
It's only fair!
Yeah "Partners"
Ukraine Laundered Billions of US Taxpayer Money
Quote:U.S. taxpayers have funded Ukraine to the tune of $182.8 billion during the criminal Biden administration. Of that money, billions have been “lost” with a massive amount being laundered back to the U.S. for political and industrial grift schemes.
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(06-04-2026, 07:46 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: https://www.military.com/2027-ndaa-provi...ntegration
"United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative"—seeks to transition U.S.-Israel military relations from traditional foreign aid to an interconnected co-production model, requiring the Pentagon to appoint an Executive Agent to synchronize bilateral research, development, and procurement in sensitive domains like AI and cybersecurity.
Freeman told Military.com that the provision reaches across “seemingly every area of defense tech,” including artificial intelligence, quantum technology, autonomous systems, directed energy, cyber and biotechnology. He said the most alarming terms were “network integration” and “data fusion,” since the bill does not clearly define them."
Talks about "Joint" and "Bilateral" developments.
Might be effective for Middle East defense in general.
Too many details to list pros/cons
Here, you try:
Page 40 starts "sec. 224" (p.43 of the pdf)
H.R. 8800—NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027 CHAIRMAN’S MARK
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(06-04-2026, 07:47 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I knew you would defend those 'private' elitist deporables...my question to you is 'why'? And don't even question what they want that private island for. Are you one of them, or one involved with them that will look the other way to make a buck?
Who would be better? Or should the land/area be left desolate and rubble-ridden?
Maybe the local governments should build a school.
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(06-04-2026, 09:00 PM)quintessentone Wrote: How many American young men and women brought home in coffins equalizes the fallacy? You are all being played for fools.
You should make your point first by stating what your vision of perfect world governments should all be like.
You know, to avoid wars and economic conquests etc.
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(06-04-2026, 09:06 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: War is hell.
Every airmen, soldier, sailor and Marine knows what they are getting into when they enlist.
They take an oath and sometimes they pay with their lives to defend this great country.
So spare me your faux outrage.
Good Statement!
Worth 3 Likes
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(06-05-2026, 10:55 AM)govshill2 Wrote: Good Statement!
Worth 3 Likes 
That doesn't mean the rest of us have to like it
Especially those of us who've lost family members or loved ones or watched them come back from war and struggle to reassimilate back into society when they're suffering from ptsd and depression and hope they don't commit suicide
Quite honestly, we treat our vets like shit
But go ahead and bring back more body bags or disabled and mentally broken human beings
Because Bible Bibi and Trump told us so
Maybe it's time for all the armchair generals cheering for war to get off their asses and go to the frontlines
Including the 3lected officials who vote this shit in
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