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(05-20-2026, 12:40 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: I don't know why you keep directing your messaging to Donald Trump
If you want to colonize the middle east, maybe you should try convincing your own leaders to do it
You do realize the reason American colonies broke away from British rule was because they were sick and tired of being colonized
We let you keep your independence as you proved capable of being effectivel a civilized society, indeed a force for good and something to cherish as a partner in this world. I wouldn't state the same of our ME colonies that were givens levels of independent though and action. The comparison is night and day.
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(05-20-2026, 12:46 PM)Orby Wrote: We vare going similar with the booze, it replaced by druggies smacked up on something called monkeys Dust, Heroine, Crack Cokaine, alcohol is still popular but tailing out, also the yoith is slowly turned islamic they generally to Hooker pipes and weeds. The Iranian plan is simple, hand over your nuke material and you will live to see another Revolutionary day. I have no problem with them living this way or that way, yet when it comes to them becoming a threat to the civilised world and hijacking our technologies then no way, time for the Mother of all Bombings. They can't have nukes, it's so simple! Untill they get this simple fact Bibi will press the Yanks to do the job, if he doesn't then expect an Israeli attack that might get completely out of control leading to what they want stopping, nuke war!
I think the older generations are unable to admit that most of the problems of the west happened under their leadership. Now they’re willing to blame the youth and Iran for all of the current mess.
You’re literally willing to use the same decades old failed logic to worsen situations… all while saying young citizens deserve the very situations they didn’t even create. You call them boozers and druggies when studies show they’re more sober than previous generations at their age. Have you forgotten the 70’s?
It’s simply disgusting so much of the older generations are gleefully salting the earth out of spite while blaming people who didn’t exist to vote for any of this.
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(05-20-2026, 12:41 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Good grief. I am not a lib Leftie.
I just oppose armchair Generals crying out for massive War crimes.
Which bombing civilian infrastructure is.
With an attitude like yours we'll be back at the hearts and minds bolloks of Iraq2 and Afghan hellmund. To win wars you have to go in and break everything in your path, you must see this. Otherwise the Iranians will come out of their caves and hiding places and it'll all start over again. With nukes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This crap has been going on since 1979, it will only get worse until the regime is toppled. Whatever it takes to achieve that.
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(05-20-2026, 12:51 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think the older generations are unable to admit that most of the problems of the west happened under their leadership. Now they’re willing to blame the youth and Iran for all of the current mess.
You’re literally willing to use the same decades old failed logic to worsen situations… all while saying young citizens deserve the very situations they didn’t even create. You call them boozers and druggies when studies show they’re more sober than previous generations at their age. Have you forgotten the 70’s?
It’s simply disgusting so much of the older generations are gleefully salting the earth out of spite while blaming people who didn’t exist to vote for any of this.
It's blatantly obvious which generation is causing all this misery and destruction
Trump's generation
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(05-20-2026, 12:53 PM)Orby Wrote: With an attitude like yours we'll be back at the hearts and minds bolloks of Iraq2 and Afghan hellmund. To win wars you have to go in and break everything in your path, you must see this. Otherwise the Iranians will come out of their caves and hiding places and it'll all start over again. With nukes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This crap has been going on since 1979, it will only get worse until the regime is toppled. Whatever it takes to achieve that.
My attitude? Like not being that keen on War crimes and genocide?
Well, excuse me.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(05-20-2026, 12:51 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think the older generations are unable to admit that most of the problems of the west happened under their leadership. Now they’re willing to blame the youth and Iran for all of the current mess.
You’re literally willing to use the same decades old failed logic to worsen situations… all while saying young citizens deserve the very situations they didn’t even create. You call them boozers and druggies when studies show they’re more sober than previous generations at their age. Have you forgotten the 70’s?
It’s simply disgusting so much of the older generations are gleefully salting the earth out of spite while blaming people who didn’t exist to vote for any of this. The youth is bone idle, we had 1 million disabled now it's 3 million and the jobs that people did years ago were far more dangerous................ That points to a bone idle good for nothing, knucle dragging Home Bargains loving, Kia disability driving yobs who are incapable of a proper days work due to something called 'Anxiety.' Flippin anxiety! What this has to do with toppling the Mullah regime and how we got here I'll never know.
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(05-20-2026, 12:37 PM)Orby Wrote: that's right, stick your head in the sand like other other lib lefties and expect Iran to start playing it nice. It's crazzy. If those Mullahs get nukes it's just insane and needs stopping asap, whatever it takes.
As much as your sentiments would be appreciated by the staunch Trump supporter, thats exactly I think what he doesnt want to do.
The entire reason this is such a free-for-all at Trump's terrible planning is because of the effectiveness of that plan without escalation to ground invasion.
I think he has Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal on replay. And his the Iran Operation and that are still tied at 13 US fatalities each...
So while this...
Quote:"On bombing Iran, the trick is to do it properly, wipe out all their electric, gas, power staations, police staions, gov't centres and leadership. All bridges, all roads. All train lines too. All airports while we are at it. You can fight the hearts and minds bollocsk like we did in Iraq and Afghan or do a Soviet invasion of Germany or a Briatin in RSA Boer War and strangle the natives to death. There comes a time when you got to take the gloves off and do the job properly."
...would certainly "win" the war. It involves a level of infantry deployment "The President that's gonna end all wars" doesn't want to commit to. He actually cares so much about not doing the ground war, he's willing to try to endlessly get it done through posturing and threats.
And quickly getting turned into the boy crying wolf because there is only so many times idle threats can be used..
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(05-20-2026, 12:55 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: It's blatantly obvious which generation is causing all this misery and destruction
Trump's generation
Pay for the wars we wanted and you didn’t.
While you’re at it cut my taxes while I’m at the most wealthy point in my life, and I’ll laugh if you bring up debt. It doesn’t matter, I’ll be dead before anything has to happen with it.
Oh, and you’re a lazy druggy piece of shit even though unemployment is comparable or not much higher while sobriety is up.
Their reality is whatever they can think up.
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(05-20-2026, 12:57 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: My attitude? Like not being that keen on War crimes and genocide?
Well, excuse me.
On that basis, when the Mullahs start threatening us with WMD just remember your position. The name Chamberlain comes to mind. Old Carpy, Mr Peace in our Time!
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(05-20-2026, 12:59 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: As much as your sentiments would be appreciated by the staunch Trump supporter, thats exactly I think what he doesnt want to do.
The entire reason this is such a free-for-all at Trump's terrible planning is because of the effectiveness of that plan without escalation to ground invasion.
I think he has Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal on replay. And his the Iran Operation and that are still tied at 13 US fatalities each...
So while this...
...would certainly "win" the war. It involves a level of infantry deployment "The President that's gonna end all wars" doesn't want to commit to. He actually cares so much about not doing the ground war, he's willing to try to endlessly get it done through posturing and threats.
And quickly getting turned into the boy crying wolf because there is only so many times idle threats can be used.. I believe you'll be surpried. Trump is on his last tour as President. He has nothing to lose. By bringing down the terror regime in Iran he can set bhimself up as one of the greatest historical figures, up there with William the Conqueuror, Stalin, Washington, Maggie thatcher. This is the moment to propel himself to the position of greatness by detroying the main threa to the civilised world, Iran.
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