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05-20-2026, 12:04 PM
This post was last modified: 05-20-2026, 12:08 PM by Orby. 
(05-20-2026, 11:34 AM)bastion Wrote: So you want all Muslims exterminated based on your own ignorance?
There's a reason we use the Arabic number system 0 - 9 instead of doing using Roman numerals in Maths and Science - Algebra is named after Al Jabr as Iran and Iraq were the home of maths. Islam kept maths and sciene alive while Europe was in the Dark Ages. Pythagoras, Euclid et al learnt their Maths in Africa and the Middle East before bringing it back to Europe.
People being a different skin colour or religion doesn't make them any more or less civilised - by all means the regime and militant Islam is a major issue but extremists come in all colours and creeds.
Exterminated? Who the heck are you, the chair at Nuremburg? Nope not at all. Yet I do believe that giving the natives control over their own affairs was done too soon. This being proved by relentless trouble within this region. Like it or lump, these natives have proven incapable of running the show, hence the need to re colonise the ME region. no messing about with 'protectorates' or any similar nonsense, just full on taking control. You don't get the natives in South America or Mexico trying to de-stabalise the planet, they were given independence and they've proven capable of just government and a bonus to relations with the civilised world. Not so the Islamic ME, it's proven to be a major thorn in the side of the west and needs taking back under our control. These primitive societies have had their chance, now way have they proven to be capable of self government. Time to take them back and give them an extra dose of education until they are fit to run the show themselves and learn to play ball with TPTB.
On your historical stuff that was then and this is now. Indeed the Arab probably stole all this from India and China. They were like camel drivers bringing things across from the east, not just spices but ideas too. Your list of advancements is more passing ideas on from the east. Good ideas at the time, but borrowed from the east. Not actual inventions by the natives of the ME.
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.”
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(05-20-2026, 12:04 PM)Orby Wrote: Exterminated? Who the heck are you, the chair at Nuremburg? Nope not at all. Yet I do believe that giving the natives control over their own affairs was done too soon. This being proved by relentless trouble within this region. Like it or lump, these natives have proven incapable of running the show, hence the need to re colonise the ME region. no messing about with 'protectorates' or any similar nonsense, just full on taking control. You don't get the natives in South America or Mexico trying to de-stabalise the planet, they were given independence and they've proven capable of just government and a bonus to relations with the civilised world. Not so the Islamic ME, it's proven to be a major thorn in the side of the west and needs taking back under our control. These primitive societies have had their chance, now way have they proven to be capable of self government. Time to take them back and give them an extra dose of education until they are fit to run the show themselves and learn to play ball with TPTB.
On your historical stuff that was then and this is now. Indeed the Arab probably stole all this from India and China. They were like camel drivers bringing things across from the east, not just spices but ideas too. Your list of advancements is more passing ideas on from the east. Good ideas at the time, but borrowed from the east. Not actual inventions by the natives of the ME.
u talk a lot of really bad things and are aware of your countries own real issues and how your country can barely keep it together.
What on earth gives you the impression yours or any other western or eastern country can solve the ME problem? Fucking look in a mirror and tell me with a straight face we got this! You fucking can't bro.
Stop with your hate filled wet dream of subjugation. It's not cool
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05-20-2026, 12:29 PM
This post was last modified: 05-20-2026, 12:37 PM by CriticalStinker. 
(05-20-2026, 11:19 AM)Orby Wrote: I dunno what you got i the States, but over here we have a 100% bone idle Caucasion native population that will rather spend their days sitting around boozing, doing drugs, eating pizzas, slobbish behaviour, expecting other tax payers to pay for their lifestyles while they collect more 'benefits' (gov't handouts) than the taxpayer can earn in a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 These slobs have no pride anymore. When my mum was a kid they so broke the mother hung around cafes waiting for people to leave so they could take the leftovers! They still worked, went out worked the fields, ploughed with horses, descended under the Durham North Sea in coal shafts that used pick axes and ponies. They were hardened and never complained. They did what they did to survive, here's the thing.................. Pride! They had pride, if there was no work they'd emigrate or re-locate to get work. We have 800,000 care positions here that native people won't fill, so migrants move here to do an honest days work. It's getting so much worse, millions of people on so called disability as they state they find working gives the Anxiety!!!!!!!!!!!! while having nothing wrong with them except bone idleness of the first class, they get given free cars, free houses, masses of cash! You wouldn't believe it over here, whole swathes of youth expecting a free lifestyle, then those same bone idle good for nothing free loaders moan about the immigrants in rallies waving there union jacks, who only come here to fill the jobs they should be doing. It's all a clustermuck, you wouldn't belive what's happened over here in the past 30 years. A sinking ship for sure.
On bombing Iran, the trick is to do it properly, wipe out all their electric, gas, power staations, police staions, gov't centres and leadership. All bridges, all roads. All train lines too. All airports while we are at it. You can fight the hearts and minds bollocsk like we did in Iraq and Afghan or do a Soviet invasion of Germany or a Briatin in RSA Boer War and strangle the natives to death. There comes a time when you got to take the gloves off and do the job properly.
Your plan is give up on western youth and effectively end Iranian civilization.
Sadly not the craziest plan since many politicians believe the same thing.
I don’t think it’s much different than the current trajectory and would just argue it hasn’t worked and won’t work going forward.
edit: here in the states Gen Z is the most sober generation in modern history. Alcohol companies are actually worried about less people drinking going forward.
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(05-20-2026, 10:20 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The irony is that nuclear technology probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Iran's contribution of ancient innovations in science and math
Don’t forget the irony of the US supplying their first reactor.
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Orby wrote:
"On bombing Iran, the trick is to do it properly, wipe out all their electric, gas, power staations, police staions, gov't centres and leadership. All bridges, all roads. All train lines too. All airports while we are at it. You can fight the hearts and minds bollocsk like we did in Iraq and Afghan or do a Soviet invasion of Germany or a Briatin in RSA Boer War and strangle the natives to death. There comes a time when you got to take the gloves off and do the job properly."
Errrm..."Help is on the way"?
Wow.
Just, no.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(05-20-2026, 12:17 PM)DennisR6 Wrote: What on earth gives you the impression yours or any other western or eastern country can solve the ME problem? Fucking look in a mirror and tell me with a straight face we got this! You fucking can't bro.
Stop with your hate filled wet dream of subjugation. It's not cool
It's not hate filled! It's honest realism. If our militaries don't go in and sort the ME out we are going to be attacked by Iranian nukes. They are developing nukes with at the same time a missile programme too. it's no dream, the reality is this planet is in imminent danger of a Shia fundamntalist state with nuclear weapons. You must see it! Trump does. So does Pete! So many liberal people stick their heads in the sand and imagine Iran is going to go away. You got to get it into your head, after 7/10 and multiple terror sponsored incidents worldwide since 1979, Iran can not be allowed in any circumstance to go nuclear. It's just insane. Totally mad. The time is now to sort them out, before its too late. Yo can not let the Mullahs get nukes. It's mental illness to not see this!
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(05-20-2026, 12:34 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Orby wrote:
"On bombing Iran, the trick is to do it properly, wipe out all their electric, gas, power staations, police staions, gov't centres and leadership. All bridges, all roads. All train lines too. All airports while we are at it. You can fight the hearts and minds bollocsk like we did in Iraq and Afghan or do a Soviet invasion of Germany or a Briatin in RSA Boer War and strangle the natives to death. There comes a time when you got to take the gloves off and do the job properly."
Errrm..."Help is on the way"?
Wow.
Just, no.
that's right, stick your head in the sand like other other lib lefties and expect Iran to start playing it nice. It's crazzy, if those Mullahs get nukes it's just insane and needs stopping asap, whatever it takes.
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(05-20-2026, 12:04 PM)Orby Wrote: Exterminated? Who the heck are you, the chair at Nuremburg? Nope not at all. Yet I do believe that giving the natives control over their own affairs was done too soon. This being proved by relentless trouble within this region. Like it or lump, these natives have proven incapable of running the show, hence the need to re colonise the ME region. no messing about with 'protectorates' or any similar nonsense, just full on taking control. You don't get the natives in South America or Mexico trying to de-stabalise the planet, they were given independence and they've proven capable of just government and a bonus to relations with the civilised world. Not so the Islamic ME, it's proven to be a major thorn in the side of the west and needs taking back under our control. These primitive societies have had their chance, now way have they proven to be capable of self government. Time to take them back and give them an extra dose of education until they are fit to run the show themselves and learn to play ball with TPTB.
On your historical stuff that was then and this is now. Indeed the Arab probably stole all this from India and China. They were like camel drivers bringing things across from the east, not just spices but ideas too. Your list of advancements is more passing ideas on from the east. Good ideas at the time, but borrowed from the east. Not actual inventions by the natives of the ME.
I don't know why you keep directing your messaging to Donald Trump
If you want to colonize the middle east, maybe you should try convincing your own leaders to do it
You do realize the reason American colonies broke away from British rule was because they were sick and tired of being colonized
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(05-20-2026, 12:37 PM)Orby Wrote: that's right, stick your head in the sand like other other lib lefties and expect Iran to start playing it nice. It's crazzy, if those Mullahs get nukes it's just insane and needs stopping asap, whatever it takes.
Good grief. I am not a lib Leftie.
I just oppose armchair Generals crying out for massive War crimes.
Which bombing civilian infrastructure is.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(05-20-2026, 12:29 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Your plan is give up on western youth and effectively end Iranian civilization.
Sadly not the craziest plan since many politicians believe the same thing.
I don’t think it’s much different than the current trajectory and would just argue it hasn’t worked and won’t work going forward.
edit: here in the states Gen Z is the most sober generation in modern history. Alcohol companies are actually worried about less people drinking going forward. We vare going similar with the booze, it replaced by druggies smacked up on something called monkeys Dust, Heroine, Crack Cokaine, alcohol is still popular but tailing out, also the yoith is slowly turned islamic they generally to Hooker pipes and weeds. The Iranian plan is simple, hand over your nuke material and you will live to see another Revolutionary day. I have no problem with them living this way or that way, yet when it comes to them becoming a threat to the civilised world and hijacking our technologies then no way, time for the Mother of all Bombings. They can't have nukes, it's so simple! Untill they get this simple fact Bibi will press the Yanks to do the job, if he doesn't then expect an Israeli attack that might get completely out of control leading to what they want stopping, nuke war!
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.”
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