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(06-15-2026, 07:27 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Every president who’s won since Iraq has won on saying there would be less war, not more.

Were broke and have skyrocketed our debt in just 20 years with nothing to show for it.

Trump said Iran would be toppled in less than a week or two. That’s what all of his base said, many here even saying who would be leading that country in under two weeks. The strait won’t be closed for long.

Those were all lies, and now it’s well we need to put boots on the ground. Ridiculous.

If we end fraud, cut government spending, we'd see a difference, but hey, ignore the billions going to "Learing Centers"

lol
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(06-15-2026, 07:56 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: If we end fraud, cut government spending, we'd see a difference, but hey, ignore the billions going to "Learing Centers"

lol

Who said I'm ignoring that? Charge people with fraud. Let's have justice served.

How many trillions did Iraq cost? Probably a lot more than learning centers, healthcare fraud, grant fraud.... 

What did we get out of that? Creating a vacuum where Iran could become one of the biggest regional powers. I was told there was going to be nukes there too. Twas a lie. Just like we "obliterated Iran's nuclear program", "set back their program "decades". Then we went in for regime change, said it would take two weeks, no boots on the ground. Then we said the strait wouldn't be closed for more than that time. 

I'm glad this debacle was over. If they want to go to war than they need to abide by the constitution and vote for it.
(06-15-2026, 08:02 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Who said I'm ignoring that? Charge people with fraud. Let's have justice served.

How many trillions did Iraq cost? Probably a lot more than learning centers, healthcare fraud, grant fraud.... 

What did we get out of that? Creating a vacuum where Iran could become one of the biggest regional powers. I was told there was going to be nukes there too. Twas a lie. Just like we "obliterated Iran's nuclear program", "set back their program "decades". Then we went in for regime change, said it would take two weeks, no boots on the ground. Then we said the strait wouldn't be closed for more than that time. 

I'm glad this debacle was over. If they want to go to war than they need to abide by the constitution and vote for it.

You can go back to being pissed off at funding Ukraine now.   Lol
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(06-15-2026, 08:04 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: You can go back to being pissed off at funding Ukraine now.   Lol

I think we have gone above and beyond for them, and it's time everyone accepts Ukraine will have to give up concessions and end the war. They're not going to "win" any more than they are at now, people are dying needlessly. The Budapest Memorandum said that we would support them, and we have done more than that. 

I think it's time we stop a lot of foreign spending right now when it's all on the credit card.

But I do find it ironic someone would say that while they're advocating for spending trillions for a massive war we're directly involved in. Iraq wasn't enough, we have to spend over 10 trillion in the Middle East while we absorb the cost through inflation. Because we have so much to show for it so far.
(06-15-2026, 08:12 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think we have gone above and beyond for them, and it's time everyone accepts Ukraine will have to give up concessions and end the war. They're not going to "win" any more than they are at now, people are dying needlessly. The Budapest Memorandum said that we would support them, and we have done more than that. 

I think it's time we stop a lot of foreign spending right now when it's all on the credit card.

But I do find it ironic someone would say that while they're advocating for spending trillions for a massive war we're directly involved in. Iraq wasn't enough, we have to spend over 10 trillion in the Middle East while we absorb the cost through inflation. Because we have so much to show for it so far.

It'd be cheaper to invade Greenland.

 Lol Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol
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(06-15-2026, 08:15 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: It'd be cheaper to invade Greenland.

 Lol Lol Lol

It would probably be cheaper to stop invading people. 

Might be a good decision for a president who ran on getting rid of the debt when he’s on track to have more than Obama and Biden combined. 

They did do a lot of damage to the country, and now we’re doing more but it’s OK to some people because it pisses off their political opponents. It’s eating a shit sandwich so other citizens have to smell your breath.
(06-15-2026, 08:25 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: It would probably be cheaper to stop invading people. 

Might be a good decision for a president who ran on getting rid of the debt when he’s on track to have more than Obama and Biden combined. 

They did do a lot of damage to the country, and now we’re doing more but it’s OK to some people because it pisses off their political opponents. It’s eating a shit sandwich so other citizens have to smell your breath.

If the evil communist left hadn't have screwed up the nation so much, we'd be better off financially.
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(06-15-2026, 08:27 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: If the evil communist left hadn't have screwed up the nation so much, we'd be better off financially.

Yea, they did.

Spending, debt and inflation is harmful to the country.

So maybe the ones “saving” us should stop trying to beat the left and spending and debt, while promoting new wars to boot.
(06-15-2026, 06:31 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: There was peace before Trump started bombing. 

They were negotiating before Trump started bombing also. After two weeks Trump lost patience and started bombing for peace. 

Look where that has gotten us. At least $24 Billion payout to Iran, and possibly reparations. Countries don't pay reparations if they win.

Don't forget the dead and the loss of warfighting infrastructure, and the costs to keep at a war footing. There are a lot of incurred costs that no-one is talking about.
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(06-15-2026, 06:11 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Did you want US troops on the ground?

I thought you wanted us out of there.

I thought that Trumb was going to put the USA first, and pull out of payouts to other countries, and committing troops, weapons and infrastructure to long-duration pointless wars?

He lied - to you (and your countrymen).
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