Trump says he bombed Iran

[putnam6]

Slightly drifting off thread but still relevant as it's a core reason for the current conflict.

I agree with your points on Sadat. If you've not seen it already I recommend the Adam Curtis series on radical islam vs radical individualism which origiate from Sadat and his assasin Qutb who launched Qutb'ism which led to modern day Islamic terror and how Western forces exagerrate this for their own benefit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLcwIFmpUHo

Thank you, I vaguely remember Qutb, I will watch the videos, BBC was educational and respected back then, and pretty much agree with that premise and have for a long time.

It's no different than the fear projections NOW, and yeah, both sides do that, but the left has it down to an art form. The right just wants to grift off the MIC profits, and didn't get into using regime change political terraforming till Iraq begat Ukraine 1.0 RINOs and Barry, and that begat Ukraine 2.0, which was supposed to be Hillary's gig, no wonder she's a bitter old battleaxe

"Instead of delivering dreams, politicians now promise to protect us from nightmares..."
The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear is a BBC TV docuseries by Adam Curtis, originally broadcast in 2004. The series discusses the origins of radical Islamism and neoconservatives in the US and draws on parallels between them.

[cherokeetroy]

"The Commanding General of the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne Division, Maj. Gen. Brandon R. Tegtmeier, and his “command element,” members of his headquarters staff, have been ordered by the Pentagon to deploy to the Middle East, as several thousand Paratroopers with 82nd Airborne Division's Immediate Response Force (IRF) prepare to deploy to the region for possible ground operations against Iran, officials tell Fox News."

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/203647...63298?s=20

[putnam6]

To put it bluntly

Many people will be terraformed as you like to call it

Unfortunate but this war + global energy/food crisis appears to be the Black Swan event I mentioned 3 or 4 months ago

The impetus that begins the transition out of the legacy economic system and into the digital AI blockchain infrastructure

Yeah, well COVID terraformed my ass directly into a significantly lower tax bracket, so you have my attention.

They are taking Kharg and may be going after fortified missile launchers, would be my guess

"The Commanding General of the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne Division, Maj. Gen. Brandon R. Tegtmeier, and his “command element,” members of his headquarters staff, have been ordered by the Pentagon to deploy to the Middle East, as several thousand Paratroopers with 82nd Airborne Division's Immediate Response Force (IRF) prepare to deploy to the region for possible ground operations against Iran, officials tell Fox News."

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/203647...63298?s=20

[putnam6]

Could well be the case but I'm not sure they would film such a presence. A little bit of digging indicates Kermenanshah is Iran's largest Kurdish populated city and close to the border where Iraqi kurds launched a limited offensive a couple of weeks ago which would also be an easy way to smuggle footage back out of Iran which would be the best case scenario (alongside SF taking out IRGC).

Worst case scenario is it could be regime footage of false flags to deliberately cause an insurgency/maximum chaos in their death throes or ISIS-linked movement as such footage/distribution fits their traditional recruitment efforts but I imagine other outlets would have reported on the footage originating on Jihadi sites if that was the case.

Is Starlink or similar available in Iran - I've not paid any attention as to if that or similar networks are available to help Persians in Iran.

NGL, I thought the sniper vids may be AI. There was the questionable 2 hit at the same time, and one got hit, and nobody around him reacted to his collapsing.

[FlyersFan]

Saudi Prince tells Trump to send ground troops into Iran.
Says Iran has to be taken down or they will be a threat for a long time.
I say - HEY PRINCE ... send your own troops.  It's YOUR backyard!

HERE

[EXETER]

"The Commanding General of the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne Division, Maj. Gen. Brandon R. Tegtmeier, and his “command element,” members of his headquarters staff, have been ordered by the Pentagon to deploy to the Middle East, as several thousand Paratroopers with 82nd Airborne Division's Immediate Response Force (IRF) prepare to deploy to the region for possible ground operations against Iran, officials tell Fox News."

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/203647...63298?s=20

Who didn't see this coming?

Here's the problem I see:  There aren't even remotely enough ground forces in or on their way to the Persian Gulf to safely sustain a ground effort of any size inside Iranian boundaries.  I was reading somewhere this morning that even though a Marine Expeditionary Unit embarked on an LHA craft may have on the order of ≈ 2,500 Marines onboard, only about ≈ 800 of them are infantry grunts.  Those are the ones whose boots actually get put on the ground.  All the others are support personnel for the F-35s, Ospreys, supply, maintenance etc., etc.  

So it looks like the total number of combat troops ready to put boots on the ground when the last MEU makes its way to the Persian Gulf from California is maybe ≈ 10,000?

When the US coalition went into Iraq in 2003, there were about 300,000 troops prepositioned with all their supplies and support systems, including about 50,000 from the UK, Australia, and others.  That took about 4 to 6 months of planning to get everything ready and in place.  

Trump clearly thought this was going to be a quickie and did no planning for what would happen if it wasn't.  I've also read recently where some of the troops who now find themselves likely to become the pointy end of the spear are anonymously expressing to journalists their perception that this whole thing is a military defeat waiting to happen because of the lack of planning in depth.  Some of them are already contacting lawyers and figuring out how to become conscientious objectors. 

Reminds me so much of Vietnam in the early 70s.

[vonclod]

Do you post drunk or something?   Seriously.

Again ... I"m responding to another post that says Iran isn't our part of the world so we should stay out of it.   If that's the attitude towards Iran, then the similar attitude needs to be used toward Ukraine.   It's not pick and choose.    Either it all matters, or none of it matters.

I don't why you are equating Ukraine/Russia with what you are doing in Iran..last I checked you haven't bombed Russia??? This action in Iran has thrown the entire planet into much further turmoil.

[CriticalStinker]

To put it bluntly

Many people will be terraformed as you like to call it

Unfortunate but this war + global energy/food crisis appears to be the Black Swan event I mentioned 3 or 4 months ago

The impetus that begins the transition out of the legacy economic system and into the digital AI blockchain infrastructure

It will serve as a good excuse as to why he had the most debt of any president and poor economic growth compared to others. All while he says he made the best economy ever.

[Oldcarpy2]

Saudi Prince tells Trump to send ground troops into Iran.
Says Iran has to be taken down or they will be a threat for a long time.
I say - HEY PRINCE ... send your own troops.  It's YOUR backyard!

HERE

Let's not forget that the Saudis did 9/11.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Saudi Prince tells Trump to send ground troops into Iran.
Says Iran has to be taken down or they will be a threat for a long time.
I say - HEY PRINCE ... send your own troops.  It's YOUR backyard!

HERE

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_e...nd-report/

But, according to the sources, MBS wants to see US strikes on Iran’s energy infrastructure in order to weaken the regime. He even advocated for US boots on the ground in order to take control of energy sites and topple the regime, they said.

He has told Trump that spikes in oil prices are only temporary.

Good, OPEC countries want their economies and globalism more than muslim kinship with Tehren. Plus The Saudis have a bunch of ridiculous sky stadiums to build by 2034.

Recognition of the need to further degrade Iran’s military capabilities is widespread enough that multiple Gulf countries, including Saudi Arabia and the UAE, are considering joining the US and Israeli strikes against Iran, a senior Gulf official told The Times of Israel last week.

The Gulf States are considering what now?

With Israel?

I think we weren't supposed to tell the press MBS supports a ground invasion... one side of his mouth had to make an official statement preferring peace,  but that from Saudi Arabia is something.

Is everyone too distracted by window displays of Bibi and Trump to see how this completely changes the global store's inventory?

We want geoplotics to add a bunch of high-end halal options, gilded accommodation, and fashionable completely optional hijabs.

Let's not tell Saudi Arabia to do ANYTHING. Given they asked us politely to show restraint initially. Riyadh's somewhat conflict averse support and willingness to float involvement in offensive strikes is evidence of "times a changin" in real-time. 

It has more the properties of a global "controlled burn" than "crazed warmonger starting WWIII."  At least when you throw in the Gulf States. 

I fear isolationism less now that I hear Trump is doing near daily calls with the Saudi Prince on this "opportunity to remake the world." 

I wonder if Bibi Calls when he's on the phone with MBS he has an internal conflict of which populist leader to prioritize? 

Are the three doing nefarious warmonger conference calls yet?

I also think it was naive to hope this could be done by airstrike alone, and Trump might have to bite the LBJ bullet and commit specialized strike forces with the other side of his mouth.

But at least with Trump the two sides of his mouth are equally loud, and both lack any filter whatsoever, so it is going to be somewhat cognitively dissonant at first glance.

Amazing and fitting the least popular thing he's ever done is the one thing I support...