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Iran needs to negotiate with Israel about Lebanon.
Which is funny, since they want to kill all Jews and abolish the nation.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
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WAIT? WHAT!
Published June 19, 2026
Updated June 19, 2026, 4:25 p.m. ET
Iran Foreign Ministry says Strait of Hormuz is open after IRGC warned it was closed — sparking confusion
Quote:“Since Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon, the complete lifting of the naval blockade, and the withdrawal of American terrorist forces from the Persian Gulf and the region are among the main conditions of the agreement between Iran and the United States, the Strait of Hormuz will remain closed until these conditions are met,” it said. “All ships are requested, for the sake of their security and safety, not to approach the Strait of Hormuz. Any vessel that defies this directive will be targeted.”
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Well so much for everything said. Though this was largely predicted by all the "America haters" here...
Not only were they right about this falling apart because of Netanyahu, Bibi fucked it up on THE DAY peace talks were to start.
Like it was always going to happen.
(Yesterday, 04:40 PM)govshill2 Wrote: Iran called it off.

Opening round of US-Iran talks canceled as Tehran said to demand halt to Lebanon fighting
Now comes this.
Quote:White House Warnings: Vice President JD Vance reinforced this stance during a White House press briefing, delivering a blunt warning to Israeli Cabinet members who have criticized Trump. Vance warned them that Trump is their only remaining global ally and that they "need to wake up and smell the reality of the situation."
So... we've reached the point where Trump tells Israel if it wasnt for The USA they wouldn't have an ally at all, and fulfills yet another endtimes prophecy by proxy virtue of declaring himself their savior.
Split reign ✅️
Man of false peace ✅️
Replaces Christ with cult of self ✅️
Ascension to divinity at the halfway point. ✅️
Turns on Israel, declares himself savior ✅️
And you dont even have to be religious anymore.
They are not absolute though. You have to do things like interpret the Vance quote as a projection of Trump's belief he is the protector of Israel and that they owe their safety to him, or equate two 4 year terms with a split reign of two 3.5 year terms.
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(Yesterday, 05:05 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Well so much for everything said. I'm glad most were just advocate positions anyway, but this was largely predicted by all the "America haters" here...
Not only were they right about this falling apart because of Netanyahu, Bibi fucked it up on THE DAY peace talks were to start.
Like it was always going to happen.
Now comes this.
So... we've reached the point where Trump tells Israel if it wasnt for The USA they wouldn't have an ally at all, and fulfills yet another endtimes prophecy by proxy virtue of declaring himself their savior.
Split reign ✅️
Ascension to divinity at the halfway point. ✅️
Man of false peace ✅️
Turns on Israel, declares himself savior ✅️
Replaces Christ with cult of self ✅️
And you dont even have to be religious anymore.
They are not absolute though. Like you have to interpret the Vance quote as a projection of Trump's belief he is the protector of Israel and they owe their safety to him and should obey.
It wouldn't surprise me if some folks see your list, and see it as a reason to vote for him.
Trump may just want to wrap this up. At the G7 meeting he made a comment about how oil reserves were running out, and that we were 4 weeks away from bedlam. Basically the same thing some here have been saying all along.
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(Yesterday, 05:05 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Well so much for everything said. Though this was largely predicted by all the "America haters" here...
Not only were they right about this falling apart because of Netanyahu, Bibi fucked it up on THE DAY peace talks were to start.
Like it was always going to happen.
Now comes this.
So... we've reached the point where Trump tells Israel if it wasnt for The USA they wouldn't have an ally at all, and fulfills yet another endtimes prophecy by proxy virtue of declaring himself their savior.
Split reign ✅️
Man of false peace ✅️
Replaces Christ with cult of self ✅️
Ascension to divinity at the halfway point. ✅️
Turns on Israel, declares himself savior ✅️
And you dont even have to be religious anymore.
They are not absolute though. You have to do things like interpret the Vance quote as a projection of Trump's belief he is the protector of Israel and that they owe their safety to him and should obey. Or equate two 4 year terms with a split reign of two 3.5 year terms.
Or. . . . . . .
Israel just has different priorities from the west and the US. They know Trump won't be around forever, so they're doing what they can in case the ECL democrats come to power.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
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Well, I dont really think Trump is the antichrist, there just wasn't enough to make it obvious I'm mostly screwing around the last half of my comment.
Lots of superficial paralllels worth pointing out, and it really is funny this was predicted by many with "TDS" or "BDS."
Israel always has an independent streak on what they determine is necessary for their self-defense. Especially under right-wing governments.
But I agree with you in principle, this derailment seems more the current leadership of ISRAEL trying to get what they can in before October, but not because Trump isn't going to be there forever, but Netanyahu..
Its a now or never mindset and the USA and Gulf can wait because the current leadership is polling more and more as a lame duck, even during a broadly supported operation against Iran.
It might be the type of change coming where even West Bank settlements, and Trump's Golan Heights neighborhood could be running out of time to exist in their present form.
But WAY MORE LIKELY the center-right opposition bloc (B'yachad - "Together Party") will cross the 61 threshold through a coalition seat majority, if anyone at all can depose Netanyahu.
It could also end up being as close as 2000 was here.
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(Yesterday, 08:17 AM)govshill2 Wrote: "Everyone else tried to keep to the agreement"
Show us where and how everyone else tried to keep to the agreement.
Details count
 This is from the very same Wikipedia article that you referenced:
"Khamenei presented seven conditions for Europe to sustain JCPOA [after Trump pulled the US out and reinstated sanctions]. Among them was that European powers must take steps to preserve business relations with Iranian banks and purchase Iranian oil. ....
On 7 August 2018, the E.U. enacted a blocking statue to defeat U.S. sanctions on countries trading with Iran."
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(Yesterday, 08:08 AM)govshill2 Wrote: So Professor, with The U.S. "withdrawing", exactly what "faithfulness" made Iran break off and what made the other "Members" choke? Show us where in the original Agreement that "forced" Iran to go rouge. Remember too, when you answer, Iran stalled-off renewal efforts by The Biden Admin. Played like Charley Daniels Fiddles 
And there is no evidence that Iran was trying to produce nuclear weapons.
Iran stopped allowing the AIEA monitoring teams in, 6 years after Trumb had broken the agreement, and probably to try and give incentive for the USA to resume its obligations under the JCPOA.
The other members did not 'choke'. They kept faith with the agreement.
Trump and Israel, when they allege that they were enforcing the denuclearization of Iran, were ignoring the advice given to them by multiple monitoring bodies.
They are treating an empty accusation as an excuse for war. They are the attackers, attacking a nation that was not acting militarily against them. They are the baddies in the situation. Everyone in the world is aware of that.
You see, atomic weapons are very expensive and are bloody useless when everyone around you will retaliate with their atomic weapons if you try and use them in anger. So it's something that a country has to pay for and that they can't really use. I think Iran are aware of that and so they want other things instead which are good for their country in the short term.
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(Yesterday, 06:57 PM)chr0naut Wrote: And there is no evidence that Iran was trying to produce nuclear weapons.
Iran stopped allowing the AIEA monitoring teams in, 6 years after Trumb had broken the agreement, and probably to try and give incentive for the USA to resume its obligations under the JCPOA.
The other members did not 'choke'. They kept faith with the agreement.
Trump and Israel, when they allege that they were enforcing the denuclearization of Iran, were ignoring the advice given to them by multiple monitoring bodies.
They are treating an empty accusation as an excuse for war. They are the attackers, attacking a nation that was not acting militarily against them. They are the baddies in the situation. Everyone in the world is aware of that.
You see, atomic weapons are very expensive and are bloody useless when everyone around you will retaliate with their atomic weapons if you try and use them in anger. So it's something that a country has to pay for and that they can't really use. I think Iran are aware of that and so they want other things instead which are good for their country in the short term.
Can't answer the question I see. OK.
The Brilliance outshines The whole Sun.
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(Yesterday, 05:05 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Well so much for everything said. Though this was largely predicted by all the "America haters" here...
Not only were they right about this falling apart because of Netanyahu, Bibi fucked it up on THE DAY peace talks were to start.
Like it was always going to happen.
Now comes this.
So... we've reached the point where Trump tells Israel if it wasnt for The USA they wouldn't have an ally at all, and fulfills yet another endtimes prophecy by proxy virtue of declaring himself their savior.
Split reign ✅️
Man of false peace ✅️
Replaces Christ with cult of self ✅️
Ascension to divinity at the halfway point. ✅️
Turns on Israel, declares himself savior ✅️
And you dont even have to be religious anymore.
They are not absolute though. You have to do things like interpret the Vance quote as a projection of Trump's belief he is the protector of Israel and that they owe their safety to him, or equate two 4 year terms with a split reign of two 3.5 year terms.
Stevie Wonder could see it coming, I knew that Israel was going to f it all up, and what more can be said regarding Trump.
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