Trump says he bombed Iran

[putnam6]

  No.    Everyone knows that which ever party has the White House, they usually lose the midterms.   Doesn't matter if it's Democrat or Republican.   No one is 'shitting bricks' over the Republicans losing the midterms.  It's expected.  That's historically how it goes.

[SomeStupidName]

I think you're mistaken.  

Israel is not looking to occupy Iran for a variety of reasons--the main one being that their military is nowhere big enough to do that.

But people need to understand that Netanyahu and Trump have very different motivations for being there in the first place. To Netanyahu, Iran is an existential threat.  He wants to destroy their military and nuclear programs, cause a regime change, and get Iran's proxies under control in places like Lebanon. And I think he has a reasonable chance of achieving those objectives.  None of that requires a permanent presence in Iran after hostilities cease.

Trump's motive for being in this war right now is to take Iran's oil and make it his own so that he can make a shit load of money after hostilities cease by deciding who gets the oil and who doesn't.  This was the plan in Venezuela and Trump has more or less openly admitted that he was trying to run the same play in Iran.  Basically, he's using the US military to make himself into an oil baron.

In order for that to work, the Iranian oil infrastructure has to be intact enough after hostilities cease to actually get a substantial amount of oil to market. That includes, but is not limited to Kharg Island. Last week, he bombed military installations on Kharg but left the oil handling infrastructure intact.  If he simply wanted to put the IRGC out of business he could have taken out a few pieces of the oil infrastructure there and 90% of Iran's cash flow would have stopped instantly.  But what he actually did is take out the military installations there that would be used in defending the island when the Marines show up at the doorstep.  So he was obviously planning then for the Marines to take the island after they arrive in the Persian Gulf (probably next week).  

But that won't be enough.  Kharg Island is only the terminal where oil is loaded onto ocean-going tankers. The oil flows to there from 3 of Iran's major oil fields through pipelines.  In order for Trump's get-rich-quick scheme to work, Kharg Island, the pipelines, AND those oil fields will have to be not only functional, but actually functioning.  

One way for that to happen is if there is a regime change in Iran that is either friendly to the US or at least amenable to cutting a deal to keep the oil flowing under Trump's terms.  Trump was obviously hoping that would happen relatively quickly in Iran as it did in Venezuela.  But it didn't, and doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon. Maybe never.  Mainly because Trump made no serious effort to figure out how to get someone to replace the Ayatollah after he helped Netanyahu snuff the guy.  

And the Israelis just keep killing any senior  member of the previous regime on sight, so there won't even be anyone to negotiate with until all of the dust settles after hostilities cease.  And then, why would any Iranian negotiate with Trump considering his pattern of constantly making and breaking agreements?

I think that at some point Trump is going to realize that if he wants to control Iran's oil output for his own purposes, he would have to militarily occupy and control the oil fields, the pipelines, and Kharg Island.  That's what eventually happened in Iraq, just for reference, so we are looking at something of that scale.

I do understand, no one wants to occupy Iran but Iran. I know Trump wants the oil as leverage I've said as much several times and it's a great plan that will work well to the advantage of the United States who I would like to see keep a commanding advantage over every other nation on face of this planet because they would all sell us as slaves if the had the chance.

I don't care what Israel wants that's on them, but as long as they want what we want then we have a team. 

Most likely this will just end with another peace deal that Iran will just ignore but right now it has produced fuel shortages in China which we are using as leverage and if we have to come back every 6 months and do it again to maintain the fact the United States runs Earth town then so be it.

[IDELB2006]

Netanyahu has come to the realization that he needs a ground invasion.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday said “Iran is being decimated” as the U.S. and Israel target its ballistic missile and nuclear programs from the air — but he added that meaningful regime change will require a “ground component.”

And

He said that the Iranian people must ultimately “rise to the moment.”
“We can create the conditions, but they have to, you know, they have to exploit those conditions at a certain point,” he said.
 
A revolution cannot come “only from the air,” he went on. “You can do a lot of things from the air, and we’re doing [them,] but ... there has to be a ground component as well.”

The comments came hours after President Donald Trump, speaking in the Oval Office, said that he would not send U.S. troops to the Middle East.

He doesn't get onto specifics, but I can only assume that he means the US is the ground component he is talking about.

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[Oldcarpy2]

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Shame that your guy is a cowardly draft dodger that disrespects those that have served.

[putnam6]

Netanyahu has come to the realization that he needs a ground invasion.

And

He doesn't get onto specifics, but I can only assume that he means the US is the ground component he is talking about.

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I do not know, and just spitballing Discord and X posts at the moment but...

Ground component could mean anything... off the top of my head

Special forces to go verify the remaining nuclear capabilities

supplying local insurgents backing Reza, to special forces inserted to take out remaining targets and support the local population in rising.
 

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[Oldcarpy2]

I do not know, and just spitballing Discord and X posts at the moment but...

Ground component could mean anything... off the top of my head

Special forces to go verify the remaining nuclear capabilities

supplying local insurgents backing Reza, to special forces inserted to take out remaining targets and support the local population in rising.

Piece of cake, eh, General?

[FlyersFan]

Netanyahu has come to the realization that he needs a ground invasion.

He doesn't have the assets to be able to do that.

[cherokeetroy]

But Epstein has nothing to do with Iran

Except it does
when we're discussing people like Jared Kushner and Ben Black

[quintessentone]

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[IDELB2006]

He doesn't have the assets to be able to do that.

That's what I was thinking.

I was also thinking he is dropping hints for Trump.