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Trump says he bombed Iran
(03-09-2026, 07:28 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Trump's war in the Middle East seems to be beginning to bite back hard.

Compared to how I think this will go ... this is just a nibble.   
It's REALLY going to bite down hard as this goes past the
4-5 week mark that Trump gave it.   That was premature.
I really think they underestimate the dedication the millions
of Iranians have to their whack job religion and delusions of
an imaginary Mahdi coming to their rescue.

I know that things had to get done with Iran before they 
got nukes.  I get that.   But wars are always messy and this
one will be no different.    Washington is supposed to be 
confident and determined, but I think they are blowing 
sunshine up our butts with their expectations and reporting.
(03-09-2026, 07:54 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Panic

... and it's only week one.   
Wait until week 4-5 comes and goes.
Wars are messy.
Media received their script:

"Short term pain for long term gain"

https://x.com/SilverDegen/status/2030807...47893?s=20
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(03-09-2026, 07:55 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Compared to how I think this will go ... this is just a nibble.   
It's REALLY going to bite down hard as this goes past the
4-5 week mark that Trump gave it.   That was premature.
I really think they underestimate the dedication the millions
of Iranians have to their whack job religion and delusions of
an imaginary Mahdi coming to their rescue.

I know that things had to get done with Iran before they 
got nukes.  I get that.   But wars are always messy and this
one will be no different.    Washington is supposed to be 
confident and determined, but I think they are blowing 
sunshine up our butts with their expectations and reporting.

It's a shit show of epic proportions.

As to where this will go...

Nowhere good thats for sure. 

Trump was not supposed to get your nation into any wars, Flyers.

I mean it was an election promise, wasn't it?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(03-09-2026, 07:58 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Wars are messy.



This one's a Black Swan
(03-09-2026, 07:20 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: What Iran is doing to Israel isn't self defense.

With such restricted media, hard to say what Iran is doing exactly. If Bibi is in Germany, then he will be under arrest by the Hague or paying heaps while on the run.

Some reports of massive protests going on in Israel, the public there are getting ready to kick the entire party out. With the build up going on in Lebanon, help provide some boots on the ground back up.

The idea of a ground invasion into Iran sounds great. Hove the US troops trapped there while the region sorts out the Israel situation.

As for what dancing with Baghdad Bob means, its show time. If you want to go prove how gods choose is protect by the return of Jesus, now is the time.
@KhalafAlHabtoor UAE billionaire:
https://x.com/KhalafAlHabtoor/status/203...29555?s=20

"I heard the statements of U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, in which he calls on the Gulf Cooperation Council countries to enter this war, saying that we are also under attack and that we must join the fight.

And I say to him clearly: We know full well why we are under attack, and we also know who dragged the entire region into this dangerous escalation without consulting those he calls his "allies" in the region.We thank God that the United Arab Emirates and the Gulf Cooperation Council countries are doing well, and we have no need for someone who claims he came to the Middle East to save us. The truth is that hasty American decisions are what embroiled the region in a war whose peoples were not party to its decision-making, and its local allies were not consulted before it was launched.

 We do not deny the Iranian threat to the region, which has become clear in recent days. We do not trust Iran. But this is a dirty game in which several powers clash at the expense of our region, with no honor in it and no transparency. In this scene, Iran, Israel, and the United States all move according to their own interests, not according to the interests of the peoples of the Middle Eastern Arab countries.

 And for this reason, we say it clearly: We will not enter this war to serve the interests of others, nor will we sacrifice our sons in a conflict that could have been avoided through diplomacy and political solutions. We value the lives of our sons, and we do not treat their souls as "collateral damage" as some do. Nothing in this world is more precious than the lives of our sons, and no alliance with any country in the world is worth risking these lives. If President Donald Trump and Senator Graham are prepared to risk their country and the lives of Americans for Israel's interests, that is their choice. As for us, we will not do the same.

 Senator Graham says they are "the Arabs' allies" and that we need and benefit from U.S. protection. And I say to him: We do not need your protection. All we want from you is to keep your hands off us.

 He also says: "We sell you weapons." As if that were a service the United States provides us. The truth is that this is no favor from anyone. We invest in our security and pay billions of dollars for these weapons, and it is a massive trade and industry built on these deals. In fact, the United States itself is now turning to buy weapons from Ukraine to supply its allies in other wars. This is an industry that thrives on wars and arms sales, not a charitable endeavor.

 And the clearest thing of all is what Senator Graham himself said when he spoke about oil. He stated that Iran and Venezuela together hold 31% of global oil reserves, and that the United States could establish a partnership with this share of the world's oil, and that it would be a "nightmare for China"—he even added that if the regime in Iran changes, there would be a "new Middle East," and the United States would "make a lot of money."
 Only then does the picture become clear. And only then do we understand why they want this war.

 Finally, I say to Senator Graham: You may be a senator in the U.S. Senate, but anyone who hears your statements might think you're a member of the Israeli Knesset, because you defend Israel's interests more than you defend the interests of the American people themselves.

 The peoples of our region have the right to live in security and stability, far from others' wars. We also have the right to decide how to protect our interests and security, and to emerge from crises we did not create but which were imposed on us as a result of conflicts between powers vying for influence in this region.

 We want peace and stability. We will not accept being forced down the path of war, nor will we accept being fuel for others' battles."

https://x.com/KhalafAlHabtoor/status/203...29555?s=20
(03-09-2026, 08:02 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Trump was not supposed to get your nation into any wars, Flyers.

Question is ... did he get us into a war, or was war coming anyways and he just yanked the bandaid off a festering wound?   I don't know the answer to that.   And considering we are at war and EVERYONE LIES during war .. we probably won't ever know the answer.
(03-09-2026, 08:04 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: This one's a Black Swan

It’s going to take time if it happens too. Large investors are going to have to exit slowly so they don’t tank their own positions. Dead cat bounces in the market will be exit liquidity for large holders.

People look back and think COVID was an instant crash, but it took a few weeks… People were debating on if it would be that bad.

I can’t read the future and don’t claim to, so I don’t know how this would compare because it’s very different.

But I don’t think the actions taken so far can just be taken back with a tweet. 

I still have my short term investments on the table, but they’re hedged with call options on a leveraged oil ETF. I’ll probably spend the week doing some balancing.
(03-09-2026, 08:21 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Question is ... did he get us into a war, or was war coming anyways and he just yanked the bandaid off a festering wound?   I don't know the answer to that.   And considering we are at war and EVERYONE LIES during war .. we probably won't ever know the answer.

I think there is a case to be made Israel and Iran were inevitably going to get into a war. Even Marco Rubio said part of our timing was to preempt a retaliatory strike from Iran since we had intel Israel was going to strike.

I don’t think there’s a strong argument though that the US and Iran were on an unavoidable path towards war though.



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