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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
Thought I would add this report where the Black Sea portion of the agreement seems to be firming up.

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(03-25-2025, 06:03 PM)Darkorange Wrote: disconnected delusional thought outbursts...disturbing. You do realize your writing is getting short, fragmented and resembles slogans. Why Russia cannot be trusted?

Let's see what you come up with.

At least my writing is not a piss poor attempt at insulting a member and not offering anything of value as you do.
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(03-25-2025, 07:37 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Thought I would add this report where the Black Sea portion of the agreement seems to be firming up.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvoQ-ux7E4U]

This is a positive step there's room for a little hope and optimism here.

on the other side, we are seeing the pitfalls of trying to work with the EU during times of conflict, there's just too many moving parts much too difficult to get unity in thier decision-making much less quickness.



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(03-25-2025, 01:40 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Sure:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/18...utin-talks

Russia refused.

Really?

Aljazeera.com
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In all of merry old England, are there no bastions of Western journalistic credibility and integrity to source?

speaking of a comedic and tragic irony ... 

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(03-26-2025, 07:26 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Really?

Aljazeera.com
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In all of merry old England, are there no bastions of Western journalistic credibility and integrity to source?

speaking of a comedic and tragic irony ... 

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There are plenty of other sources for this.

This quote from this source:

"We expect the Russian side to unconditionally agree to this proposal,” said Ukraine’s Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha ahead of the meeting. “It is time for Russia to show whether it really wants peace.”

Dislike the source and attack it if you want but that quote is not made up.

It is a fact that Ukraine wanted an unconditional 30 day ceasefire, but Russia did not agree, which was my point.

That gif is getting tiresome.
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U: "I agree to a cease-fire!"

R: "What do you mean by that?"

U: "That you should cease fire!"

LOL. M'kay.
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(03-26-2025, 07:48 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: There are plenty of other sources for this.

This quote from this source:

"We expect the Russian side to unconditionally agree to this proposal,” said Ukraine’s Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha ahead of the meeting. “It is time for Russia to show whether it really wants peace.”

Dislike the source and attack it if you want but that quote is not made up.

It is a fact that Ukraine wanted an unconditional 30 day ceasefire, but Russia did not agree, which was my point.

That gif is getting tiresome.

I agree, there are many other sources that agreed to that same fact and just because a source is centre-left or centre-right, does not mean those specific facts are not true. I've used sources that lean both ways.

I am really not sure what some Americans have against Ukraine here, it's baffling that they seem to be on the invader's side because...why...I just don't get it?

As for that gif, it's a tell tale sign of being unsure of one's facts, sort of like when someone is losing a debate then have to resort to insults - same thing in my eyes.

We should move on from what was, to what is and it looks like everyone needs to give Putin everything he demands if there is to be peace, but with the stipulation that the U.S. will monitor both sides via space satellite technology. I think this will work.
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(03-26-2025, 08:47 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I agree, there are many other sources that agreed to that same fact and just because a source is centre-left or centre-right, does not mean those specific facts are not true. I've used sources that lean both ways.

I am really not sure what some Americans have against Ukraine here, it's baffling that they seem to be on the invader's side because...why...I just don't get it?

As for that gif, it's a tell tale sign of being unsure of one's facts, sort of like when someone is losing a debate then have to resort to insults - same thing in my eyes.

We should move on from what was, to what is and it looks like everyone needs to give Putin everything he demands if there is to be peace, but with the stipulation that the U.S. will monitor both sides via space satellite technology. I think this will work.

Yep.

If I'd used a source from "merry old England" that would get sneered at so you can't really win.

I don't get the hatred of Zelensky.
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(03-26-2025, 09:06 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Yep.

If I'd used a source from "merry old England" that would get sneered at so you can't really win.

I don't get the hatred of Zelensky.

If Trump hates Zelensky for not kissing the ring previously and recently, it appears Zelensky can be targetted by some here that feel they have to take sides. It's laughable.

Hey, should I insert Putnam's laughing gif here now? lol
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