Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

Gonzalo Lira? 
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/2...raine.html

https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lir...il-1860496

"Lira added that he was tortured in prison by other inmates, which saw him beaten and sleep-deprived, with his "arms twisted the wrong way around at the shoulder."

These allegations were strenuously denied by Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, a former American journalist who became a sergeant in the Ukrainian army, in an interview with Business Insider. Ashton-Cirillo said: "In an effort to gain sympathy, Gonzalo Lira made up allegations of abuse and torture. As someone who spoke to him shortly after he was returned to custody, it was clear that he was in good health and treated extremely fairly by the state security services."


Lap up Tucker Carlson and his simpering Russian propaganda.

Would you like a list of Putins murdered political opponents?

It's a lot longer than what you have managed to dredge up.

Are you fine with that?

Putin used a nerve agent around the corner from where I was working at the time.

A police officer was hospitalized and an innocent member of the public, who I had met, died.

Seriously?

[sahgwa]

https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lir...il-1860496

"Lira added that he was tortured in prison by other inmates, which saw him beaten and sleep-deprived, with his "arms twisted the wrong way around at the shoulder."

These allegations were strenuously denied by Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, a former American journalist who became a sergeant in the Ukrainian army, in an interview with Business Insider. Ashton-Cirillo said: "In an effort to gain sympathy, Gonzalo Lira made up allegations of abuse and torture. As someone who spoke to him shortly after he was returned to custody, it was clear that he was in good health and treated extremely fairly by the state security services."


Lap up Tucker Carlson and his simpering Russian propaganda.

Would you like a list of Putins murdered political opponents?

It's a lot longer than what you have managed to dredge up.

Are you fine with that?

Putin used a nerve agent around the corner from where I was working at the time.

A police officer was hospitalized and an innocent member of the public, who I had met, died.

Seriously?

Seriously?
I am not fine with anyone murdering anyone. 

Anyone can counter with 'propaganda!" it's an easy job. 
 Lira's family is convinced he was murdered.

Myself and a lot of people here , are merely try to get you to admit that Ukraine is also corrupt.  Simple as that.

[sahgwa]

https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lir...il-1860496

"Lira added that he was tortured in prison by other inmates, which saw him beaten and sleep-deprived, with his "arms twisted the wrong way around at the shoulder."

These allegations were strenuously denied by Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, a former American journalist who became a sergeant in the Ukrainian army, in an interview with Business Insider. Ashton-Cirillo said: "In an effort to gain sympathy, Gonzalo Lira made up allegations of abuse and torture. As someone who spoke to him shortly after he was returned to custody, it was clear that he was in good health and treated extremely fairly by the state security services."


Lap up Tucker Carlson and his simpering Russian propaganda.

Would you like a list of Putins murdered political opponents?

It's a lot longer than what you have managed to dredge up.

Are you fine with that?

Putin used a nerve agent around the corner from where I was working at the time.

A police officer was hospitalized and an innocent member of the public, who I had met, died.

Seriously?

And because it  doesn't meet your world view, Helsinki Times is Russian Propaganda (Guess what, Finland joined NATO ,guess they will have to scrub that story)
but because Newsweek agrees better to you, it is not propaganda.
Again, we know how that works.

[Oldcarpy2]

And because it  doesn't meet your world view, Helsinki Times is Russian Propaganda (Guess what, Finland joined NATO ,guess they will have to scrub that story)
but because Newsweek agrees better to you, it is not propaganda.
Again, we know how that works.

I didn't say Helsinki Times was Russian propaganda.

I said Tucker Carlson was.

As for not meeting your World view.....pot, kettle?

[sahgwa]

I didn't say Helsinki Times was Russian propaganda.

I said Tucker Carlson was.

As for not meeting your World view.....pot, kettle?

Where the actual fuq has Tucker entered into my posts?
Show me a single one.

You are a master at ignoring what is in plain sight because you dislike it.
You must be drunk?!
Once again, ignoring the texts you dislike.  

Cmon, you can say it, it won't kill you:
  'Russia is corrupt and so is Ukraine.'
We will even let you change the order around.

[Oldcarpy2]

Where the actual fuq has Tucker entered into my posts?
Show me a single one.

You are a master at ignoring what is in plain sight because you dislike it.
You must be drunk?!
Once again, ignoring the texts you dislike.  

Cmon, you can say it, it won't kill you:
  'Russia is corrupt and so is Ukraine.'
We will even let you change the order around.

What? Tucker Carlson is in your own link:

"His arrest in May 2023, under the charges of "production and dissemination of materials justifying Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine," was a turning point. It not only highlighted the complexities of war-time free speech but also catalysed opposition movements against US funding for the conflict. High-profile figures like tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson called for his release, bringing global attention to his case."

"You must be drunk?!"

Done with this level of crap.

Good day to you, good day to you sir.

[Oldcarpy2]

What? Tucker Carlson is in your own link:

"His arrest in May 2023, under the charges of "production and dissemination of materials justifying Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine," was a turning point. It not only highlighted the complexities of war-time free speech but also catalysed opposition movements against US funding for the conflict. High-profile figures like tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson called for his release, bringing global attention to his case."

"You must be drunk?!"

Done with this level of crap.

Good day to you, good day to you sir.

"We"?!!!

[UltraBudgie]

I have decided to switch to decaf after 4pm.

Carry on.

[sahgwa]

What? Tucker Carlson is in your own link:

"His arrest in May 2023, under the charges of "production and dissemination of materials justifying Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine," was a turning point. It not only highlighted the complexities of war-time free speech but also catalysed opposition movements against US funding for the conflict. High-profile figures like tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson called for his release, bringing global attention to his case."

"You must be drunk?!"

Done with this level of crap.

Good day to you, good day to you sir.

Its the constant avoidance that taxes us all.

I posted a link from the Helsinki Times - said newspaper mentioning a figure (Tucker), is in no ways an endorsement of said figure.  Surely as a lawyer you know this?
That's like me mentioning in a CNN article that Robert Downey was eating cheesecake, and calling that article, CNN endorsing cheesecake.

You really are something else.
Still can't admit Ukraine is corrupt? Why not?

[Oldcarpy2]

Its the constant avoidance that taxes us all.

I posted a link from the Helsinki Times - said newspaper mentioning a figure (Tucker), is in no ways an endorsement of said figure.  Surely as a lawyer you know this?
That's like me mentioning in a CNN article that Robert Downey was eating cheesecake, and calling that article, CNN endorsing cheesecake.

You really are something else.
Still can't admit Ukraine is corrupt? Why not?

You speak for "us".

Yes, Ukraine is corrupt. But they are at least trying to do something about it.

"You really are something else".

Sorry, I'm not going to descend to your personal insults and crap.