Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[sahgwa]

I didn't say Helsinki Times was Russian propaganda.

I said Tucker Carlson was.

As for not meeting your World view.....pot, kettle?

Where the actual fuq has Tucker entered into my posts?
Show me a single one.

You are a master at ignoring what is in plain sight because you dislike it.
You must be drunk?!
Once again, ignoring the texts you dislike.  

Cmon, you can say it, it won't kill you:
  'Russia is corrupt and so is Ukraine.'
We will even let you change the order around.

[Oldcarpy2]

Where the actual fuq has Tucker entered into my posts?
Show me a single one.

You are a master at ignoring what is in plain sight because you dislike it.
You must be drunk?!
Once again, ignoring the texts you dislike.  

Cmon, you can say it, it won't kill you:
  'Russia is corrupt and so is Ukraine.'
We will even let you change the order around.

What? Tucker Carlson is in your own link:

"His arrest in May 2023, under the charges of "production and dissemination of materials justifying Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine," was a turning point. It not only highlighted the complexities of war-time free speech but also catalysed opposition movements against US funding for the conflict. High-profile figures like tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson called for his release, bringing global attention to his case."

"You must be drunk?!"

Done with this level of crap.

Good day to you, good day to you sir.

[Oldcarpy2]

What? Tucker Carlson is in your own link:

"His arrest in May 2023, under the charges of "production and dissemination of materials justifying Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine," was a turning point. It not only highlighted the complexities of war-time free speech but also catalysed opposition movements against US funding for the conflict. High-profile figures like tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson called for his release, bringing global attention to his case."

"You must be drunk?!"

Done with this level of crap.

Good day to you, good day to you sir.

"We"?!!!

[UltraBudgie]

I have decided to switch to decaf after 4pm.

Carry on.

[sahgwa]

What? Tucker Carlson is in your own link:

"His arrest in May 2023, under the charges of "production and dissemination of materials justifying Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine," was a turning point. It not only highlighted the complexities of war-time free speech but also catalysed opposition movements against US funding for the conflict. High-profile figures like tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson called for his release, bringing global attention to his case."

"You must be drunk?!"

Done with this level of crap.

Good day to you, good day to you sir.

Its the constant avoidance that taxes us all.

I posted a link from the Helsinki Times - said newspaper mentioning a figure (Tucker), is in no ways an endorsement of said figure.  Surely as a lawyer you know this?
That's like me mentioning in a CNN article that Robert Downey was eating cheesecake, and calling that article, CNN endorsing cheesecake.

You really are something else.
Still can't admit Ukraine is corrupt? Why not?

[Oldcarpy2]

Its the constant avoidance that taxes us all.

I posted a link from the Helsinki Times - said newspaper mentioning a figure (Tucker), is in no ways an endorsement of said figure.  Surely as a lawyer you know this?
That's like me mentioning in a CNN article that Robert Downey was eating cheesecake, and calling that article, CNN endorsing cheesecake.

You really are something else.
Still can't admit Ukraine is corrupt? Why not?

You speak for "us".

Yes, Ukraine is corrupt. But they are at least trying to do something about it.

"You really are something else".

Sorry, I'm not going to descend to your personal insults and crap.

[Encia22]

Mod note -- Please remember to go after the ball, not the player.

Do not respond to this post. Thanks

[sahgwa]

You speak for "us".

Yes, Ukraine is corrupt. But they are at least trying to do something about it.

"You really are something else".

Sorry, I'm not going to descend to your personal insults and crap.

I am proud that you admitted it.  
That's all I was showing with source after source.
Good job.
Now how much they are trying is a matter of conjecture.

[sahgwa]

Interesting article


2022 March

https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-pos...o?sfnsn=mo
 The Ukrainian UPA tortured their victims with unimaginable bestiality. Even the Germans were shocked at their level of sadism. Victims were scalped. They had their noses, lips and ears cut off. They had their eyes gouged out and hands cut off and they had their heads squashed in clamps. Woman had their breasts cut off and pregnant woman were stabbed in the belly. Men had their genitals sliced off with sickles.
Prof. Grzegorz Motyka, an expert on Polish-Ukrainian issues, had stated that “although the anti-Polish action was an ethnic cleansing, it also meets the definition of genocide”.
The Polish Institute of National Remembrance estimates that 100,000 Poles were killed by the Ukrainian nationalists and an additional tens of thousands in other areas.
 

Even President Zelenskyy, who is Jewish and would have been undoubtedly murdered along with his family by the likes of Bandera and his UPA members, said "There are indisputable heroes. Stepan Bandera is a hero for a certain part of Ukrainians, and this is a normal and cool thing. He was one of those who defended the freedom of Ukraine.” Ukraine former ambassador to Germany Andrij Melnyk laid flowers at Bandera's grave, after praising him as a “hero”, and went further to deny his crimes and genocides and attacked anyone who criticized Bandera.

The biggest irony is that Bandera would have hated and despised modern day Ukraine. His worst nightmare would have been to see a democratic country which has a Jewish president and many national and ethnic minorities. Despite that, a lot of modern day Ukrainians still praise him, ignoring the fact that if Bandera was allowed to implement his ideology, Ukraine would have become a Nazi, totalitarian version of the state it is today.

[putnam6]

if true this could be great news...

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JUST IN - Russian President Vladimir Putin has sent Donald Trump a message about his proposal for a ceasefire in Ukraine via Trump's special envoy, the Kremlin said on Friday, adding that it saw grounds for "cautious optimism" that a deal could be reached — Reuters