Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

Life is equally sad and funny right now.


feel like we are living in parody of the world I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s.

I'd have to agree ?

[FlyersFan]

Current regime in Kiev is known to be thugs, fascists, and totally corrupt.  

Russian government is full of thugs and are criminals.
Russian people are all brainwashed with nationalistic fever.
Ukraine government is full of criminals.
Ukraine people are stuck being invaded by Russia and stuck with a criminal govenment.
American people are the stooges being financially sucked dry by the corrupt Ukraine government 
while at the same time cheerleading against Russia because they truly are bad guys.
UK/Europe sit back and badmouth America because we stopped the gravy train 
and are making them pay for their own backyard security.

Not a pretty picture no matter how you look at it.

[sahgwa]

Russian government is full of thugs and are criminals.
Russian people are all brainwashed with nationalistic fever.
Ukraine government is full of criminals.
Ukraine people are stuck being invaded by Russia and stuck with a criminal govenment.
American people are the stooges being financially sucked dry by the corrupt Ukraine government 
while at the same time cheerleading against Russia because they truly are bad guys.
UK/Europe sit back and badmouth America because we stopped the gravy train 
and are making them pay for their own backyard security.

Not a pretty picture no matter how you look at it.

Thank you for saying it like it is.

[sahgwa]

Why are you citing people supposedly in Zelensky's regime who haven't been for years?

Because I haven't the energy to do ALL of your homework for you. 
If you can't see that he surrounds himself with thugs and neonazis, when i show you the data, regardless of if it was a few years ago or not, then I dont know what to tell you.
Are you claiming by this HUGE difference in dates, that he has suddenly changed his stripes to be more respectable for Western money?
laughable.

[putnam6]

I am talking about the whole regime in Kiev, not just Zelensky.
Dmytro Yarosh  - brownshirt neonazi (scrubbed from Wiki) , Peoples Deupty of Ukraine 
In office
27 November 2014 – 29 July 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Yarosh

see
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-ha...ne/5371554

Its not just AZOV (commander Denis 'White Rex" ) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Kapustin_(militant)

Its people in parliament 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleh_Makhnitskyi
Oleh Ihorovych Makhnitskyi 2014

i could go on all day.

point is, Putin is a thug, fighting other thugs

I will reiterate, no interest supporting Slavs fighting Slavs, using MY money


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/uk...cna1290946

https://thehill.com/opinion/internationa...ropaganda/

Nobody gets it, they both are corrupt and crime-ridden, grant you Ukraine seems to be trying but I tried to learn Chemistry and it never stuck either. 

Besides much of Eastern Europe operates with an organized corrupt and graft-filled underbelly, and people want to send another 100 billion it's SAF. We are damn lucky it hasn't escalated so far, and it would be better for the region, the continent, and the world if it was resolved peacefully for now. 

How Deep Does Corruption Run in Ukraine?



Ukraine has made significant progress fighting graft, but its record continues to haunt it.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/03/06/ukr...ussia-war/

MARCH 6, 2024, 2:54 PM
During a recent off-the-record think tank discussion on Ukraine, a respected journalist raised the issue of the damaging effects that Ukraine’s ongoing corruption issues have had on U.S. congressional Republican support for the country as it resists Russia’s invasion. The journalist’s comment, of course, was not the first about what has become a bugbear for Ukraine’s friends and enemies alike. Indeed, corruption in Ukraine’s economy, and more recently within its military structures, is a problem that needs to be addressed forcefully and forthrightly by Ukraine’s leaders.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20...ion-progam

While Ukraine has stepped up its anti-graft measures over the past decade to bolster its chances of joining the European Union, corruption scandals are still rife in the war-torn country, where a multi-billion-dollar reconstruction programme has provided new opportunities for personal enrichment.

 
When Bart Gruyaert agreed to help rebuild destroyed apartment blocks outside Kyiv, he hoped to be one cog in Ukraine's vast reconstruction programme, repairing just some of the damage wrought by Russia's invasion.
But when the French company he works for, Neo-Eco, applied for building permits in the town of Gostomel, the local military administration asked the company to transfer the funds for the multimillion-dollar project to its bank account, under the pretence that it would run the project directly.
Officials told Gruyaert, "it's better if you transfer the money you received to our account," he recalled.
"But it doesn't work like that," he told AFP.
The company refused, and progress on the initiative, which had secured 20 million euros in private funding, immediately slowed.
It marked the latest example of the endemic corruption that has plagued Ukraine since it became independent after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991.

[sahgwa]

Nobody gets it, they both are corrupt and crime-ridden, grant you Ukraine seems to be trying but I tried to learn Chemistry and it never stuck either. 

Besides much of Eastern Europe operates with an organized corrupt and graft-filled underbelly, and people want to send another 100 billion it's SAF. We are damn lucky it hasn't escalated so far, and it would be better for the region, the continent, and the world if it was resolved peacefully for now. 

How Deep Does Corruption Run in Ukraine?

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Ukraine has made significant progress fighting graft, but its record continues to haunt it.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/03/06/ukr...ussia-war/


https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20...ion-progam

Exactly. They both suck
I am just sick of people 'simping' for Ukraine and pretending like its not a shit hole full of thugs just as bad as Russia.  And I have been to Ukraine, I know it's a shithole.  This was about 2004 or so. Im sure it hasnt improved much.  I was always warned not to use ATMs or cards at gas pumps due to skimmers .
The plus side was I got bootleg Nirvana CDs and bootleg computer games. 
Ha!

[Oldcarpy2]

Because I haven't the energy to do ALL of your homework for you. 
If you can't see that he surrounds himself with thugs and neonazis, when i show you the data, regardless of if it was a few years ago or not, then I dont know what to tell you.
Are you claiming by this HUGE difference in dates, that he has suddenly changed his stripes to be more respectable for Western money?
laughable.

Homework?!!!

Zelensky entered politics and became President on 20th May 2019 yet you are trying to link him to folk dating back to 2014!

Come off it.

[Oldcarpy2]

"And I have been to Ukraine, I know it's a shithole. This was about 2004 or so. Im sure it hasnt improved"

2004?

Things have changed a bit since then.

What sh#t hole do you call home?

[putnam6]

Exactly. They both suck
I am just sick of people 'simping' for Ukraine and pretending like its not a shit hole full of thugs just as bad as Russia.  And I have been to Ukraine, I know it's a shithole.  This was about 2004 or so. Im sure it hasnt improved much.  I was always warned not to use ATMs or cards at gas pumps due to skimmers .
The plus side was I got bootleg Nirvana CDs and bootleg computer games. 
Ha!

Yes, I used to work with a woman I respected a lot, who was from Romania, all of her family is still there, as of 2010 or so.

Her family was wary of organized crime in Romania and compared it to Russian and Ukrainian in its depth and how much it influences governments.

[sahgwa]

Homework?!!!

Zelensky entered politics and became President on 20th May 2019 yet you are trying to link him to folk dating back to 2014!

Come off it.

You literally read nothing I posted.
I knew it was pointless.