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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(03-04-2025, 06:10 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Mu goodness, you have MAGA on the brain early, good for you. Hope you are feeling better...

Can't win them all, but most of them are just TEMPORARY injunctions final rulings will be decided later. ie nothing but delaying tactics

Unfortunately, Im of the opinion that what is occurring domestically politically diplomatically internationally takes time patience, introspection, and discipline, examining it every day with a microscope is a fruitless endeavor, everything will fall into place in due time. Or it won't

Nothing politically, internationally, or diplomatically EVER happens overnight. Simply we must zoom out and look at the broader picture

One must remember we tried to build back better for 4 years, did it ever feel like it was better? and if it was better why didn't the builders win the election?

You can't refurbish an old 1970s home without gutting it first, getting rid of the old inefficient appliances, and checking the foundation and the roof. Removing almost everything even refurbishing a hardwood floor can take some elbow grease

and ALL while a place is being refurbished you can either live is the chaos of being rebuilt daily and constantly go WTF is happening or you can read the plans then occupy your time elsewhere wait and see how it looks in just 3 months 6 months and so on.

We have shifted dramatically on our Ukraine stance and our relationship with NATO, acceptance was never going to be measured in hours or days this takes weeks or months to bear fruit. 

Thats the best rationalization I can come up with at 5 in the morning sans coffee.

It's not MAGA that's on my mind but rather propaganda and brainwashing of which I believe MAGA falls into.

The only issue I have with gutting a '70s house is that one has to start with the foundation, so that would be dealing with the greatest overspending by the Pentagon and military, but I don't see that happening.

Yes, I think I am getting better, thanks for asking.

Don't use the word 'we' loosely because that would imply the majority of Americans agree with Trump and Elon and I am not seeing that as a reality.

These two US volunteers fighting for Ukraine have an opinion you all need to hear.


"The only journey is the one within."
This is not a good look... 1.4 million views  44 thousand likes

Troops on the ground even peacekeeping ones are targets for not only Russians but possibly rogue Ukrainian fronts could target them 

Why send pracerkeepers when Zelenshy says the war is far from over


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(03-04-2025, 06:23 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It's not MAGA that's on my mind but rather propaganda and brainwashing of which I believe MAGA falls into.

The only issue I have with gutting a '70s house is that one has to start with the foundation, so that would be dealing with the greatest overspending by the Pentagon and military, but I don't see that happening.

Yes, I think I am getting better, thanks for asking.

Don't use the word 'we' loosely because that would imply the majority of Americans agree with Trump and Elon and I am not seeing that as a reality.

These two US volunteers fighting for Ukraine have an opinion you all need to hear.
Worlds full of propaganda brother, 

I'd expect nothing less and I salute them for their bravery but waht do you expect them to say they are with brothers in arms that don't want to give up

They made huge sacrifices many paid the ultimate sacrifice doesn't mean America continues to pump 100 billion dollars into the situation. I lost friends and high school classmates in Afghanistan and Iraq I get it. 

Complete victory in Ukraine is far far away, what's far far away in your estimation 3 more years? longer? 20 years like Afghanistan?

yeah FTN America has issues that can't wait DOMESTICALLY, worse case we catch up with you later after Putin reneges on this or that negotiation. This shouldn't have been such a shock to the EU and they damn sure should have planned for this eventuality. They did not which is another reason to cut bait. You don't ever commit yourself long long-term war after 3 years of depleting stockpiles

So hopefully the 500 million Europeans can hold the line in Ukraine till the 300 million Americans are ready to help them again should the need arise. 

Maybe after they stop purchasing LNG and other fossil fuels from Russia circa 2027

https://x.com/Kalopsiac1984/status/1896611066840559626
Quote:Starmer is dangerously deluded if he thinks putting British troops on Russia’s border is anything other than an act of provocation. The UK is not ready for war—our military is overstretched, underfunded, and struggling to meet recruitment targets. But instead of fixing that, Starmer wants to play Churchill while risking WW3. Farage is right to call this out. Britain has zero business escalating this conflict.

https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1896867103862595595

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JUST IN:  Italian Prime Minister Meloni rejects offers from France and UK to send troops to Ukraine. "You can go—not with my soldiers."
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But change is 
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Great, lets talk and do it all live on TV so the world can see who's doing the dirty.

The Democrats and Europeans created Zelensky and started this little poo show! Now the Democrats are violating the Logan act and are acting on behalf of the Ukranian Government. Trumps cut the cord and Ukraine's floating to Europe.

Europe needs to get on board and sign a deal that ensures Ukraine never enters NATO. Otherwise, all hell could break loose.
(03-04-2025, 04:18 AM)chr0naut Wrote: I thought Biden did OK at the recovery after Trump's first term.

Now the trade wars have begun, I think it is likely that the people of the US will realize that they hardly farm or manufacture anything, in comparison to their voracious preference for both the best and the cheapest of imports.

But everything from overseas in the US just got at least 25% more expensive. All with the flick of a pen.

Lol

Essentials like medicines in the US were the most expensive of any country in the world, and now, guess what?

Not going to defend Trump, but Biden undid what Trump had done to lower prescriptions. 

none of that germain for this discussion.

i’m just glad trump is pulling us out of this Ukrain cragmire, if Europe wants to fund it let them.

looks like a huge money laundry operation draining billions from the USA to me.

so I say get the heck out of Ukrain, stop all money.

we are no longer in place to bankroll the world we are fing bankrupt.

our stupidity allowing politicians to destroy us with debt is literally killing our country.
(03-04-2025, 09:01 AM)pianopraze Wrote: Not going to defend Trump, but Biden undid what Trump had done to lower prescriptions. 

none of that germain for this discussion.

i’m just glad trump is pulling us out of this Ukrain cragmire, if Europe wants to fund it let them.

looks like a huge money laundry operation draining billions from the USA to me.

so I say get the heck out of Ukrain, stop all money.

we are no longer in place to bankroll the world we are fing bankrupt.

our stupidity allowing politicians to destroy us with debt is literally killing our country.

This is what Zelensky, Starmer, Macron, Olaf, Justin, Giorgina, etc are just now beginning to understand.

They should have been prepared for this eventuality at least from the establishment of the EU 

Now hearing rumors and get this...

The EU sends troops and will begin offering citizenship contracts to immigrants who join the military 

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But change is 
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(03-04-2025, 09:25 AM)putnam6 Wrote: This is what Zelensky, Starmer, Macron, Olaf, Justin, Giorgina, etc are just now beginning to understand.

They should have been prepared for this eventuality at least from the establishment of the EU 

Now hearing rumors and get this...

The EU sends troops and will begin offering citizenship contracts to immigrants who join the military 

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Europe has been at war continually for as long as we’ve had historical record. Peace is more an anomaly than norm.

let them pay for their own damn wars and leave us out of it.
i'm beginning to think putin doesn't care any more if nato gets western ukraine. sure 20 years ago he did, it was a strategic necessity. but don't you think he's been working on that problem? weapons development, short range intracontinental ballistic systems, drone shields, and the buffer territory acquisition of the eastern oblasts -- i don't think he gives a hoot any more, despite what he's saying for strategic purposes. it's basically poland get a few hundred miles wider. no big deal, the southern ports are secure and it's basically just that much less pipeline that russia will have to defend. so maybe look for him to "compromise" on a few decades injunction rather than permanent? that dovetails nicely with the squabblegames europe wants to play as well as the ukusa bonepicking. let ukusa keep ukraine (what's left) on the edge of tinderbox, haha, so as to bullyhand germany et al, and if they want to play extractionist colonial civilwar games, well so what all the good stuff's in the east anyway, and putin is used to taking the heat for mi6 deflection. might even slip in a few ops of his own, hohoho.
(03-04-2025, 09:47 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: i'm beginning to think putin doesn't care any more if nato gets western ukraine. sure 20 years ago he did, it was a strategic necessity. but don't you think he's been working on that problem? weapons development, short range intracontinental ballistic systems, drone shields, and the buffer territory acquisition of the eastern oblasts -- i don't think he gives a hoot any more, despite what he's saying for strategic purposes. it's basically poland get a few hundred miles wider. no big deal, the southern ports are secure and it's basically just that much less pipeline that russia will have to defend. so maybe look for him to "compromise" on a few decades injunction rather than permanent? that dovetails nicely with the squabblegames europe wants to play as well as the ukusa bonepicking. let ukusa keep ukraine (what's left) on the edge of tinderbox, haha, so as to bullyhand germany et al, and if they want to play extractionist colonial civilwar games, well so what all the good stuff's in the east anyway, and putin is used to taking the heat for mi6 deflection. might even slip in a few ops of his own, hohoho.
 Zelensky ready to work under Trump's 'strong leadership' after 'regrettable' showdown

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c981p3dxne...7070423e2b
Quote:The key lines from Zelensky's statement published at 11:30

Now we've had time to digest that statement from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, here's a summary:
  • 'Time to make things right': Zelensky expressed regret over his spat with Donald Trump in the Oval Office last Friday, saying it "did not go the way it was supposed to"
  • 'Strong leadership': He said Ukraine was ready to work as fast as it could to end the war with Russia - and take Trump's lead
  • First stages: He also proposed some initial stages towards ending the war, including releasing prisoners, and a truce in the sea and sky
  • Ready to sign: He thanked the US for its support throughout the war, adding that Kyiv was "ready" to sign the US-proposed minerals deal
  • No word on aid: His statement did not directly address the US decision to suspend aid to Ukraine
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(03-04-2025, 11:45 AM)putnam6 Wrote:  Zelensky ready to work under Trump's 'strong leadership' after 'regrettable' showdown

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c981p3dxne...7070423e2b

This appears to refer to only a ceasefire and Putin may agree, so as to gain time and more military resources to strike again, soon. Putin will only engage transactionally when it benefits him.

I don't see that Trump will revisit this rare minerals deal because it's clear if he did that negotiating peace after the fact with Putin won't get anywhere because Putin won't make any concessions and since Putin has shown numerous times he reneges on agreements, security measures will be a must.

From your link:
 
Quote:In a post on X, Zelensky says the first stages in ending the war could include "the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same".
 
"Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal."
 
We're still combing through the statement - stay with us further updates.

Zelenskyy says "if Russia will do the same", see how those few words give us a big clue? Trump will need to convince Putin to make concessions, do you really think that will happen? That is why Trump is making Zelenskyy the fall guy in all of this and treats Putin with kid gloves.

The EU and Ukraine are meeting once more this Thursday, let's see where they go from there... a lot can happen between now and then.

I would have added that all abducted children are to be returned immediately to Ukrainian officials.
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