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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(03-02-2025, 12:26 AM)guyfriday Wrote: Well now we know what started all of this.
Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Typical Democrats.  They destroyed the Rare Earth Minerals deal because the deal made Trump look good.   It was a good deal for the USA and for Ukraine.   But nooooooo .... just gotta' do anything to sabotage Trump even if it's a bad move for America and Ukraine, who they falsely claim to care about.

To be fair, Republicans would have sabotaged it as well if it were a Democrat doing the deal.

I don't like Trump.  He's a bloviating, self promoting, grifter.   Lots of the time he does things that make me want to pull my hair out by the handful.  But other times he does things that are good.  This was something that was good for us and Ukraine both.   But the Democrats just couldn't let it happen.

Pretty much all politicians suck all over the world.  I don't know how anyone can 'team cheerlead' for any politician.
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Link to a 5 minute video for one reasonable overview of what this big pile of dead bodies is about.

Prof. J. Sachs Informs the EU of the Ukraine war truth

Good to see Zelensik is on his way to France, or where ever. Well done Trump in make the political media great again.
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(03-01-2025, 04:06 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah and it would have never started with Trump as President is abundantly clear however

it seems Macron still needs some hand-holding and no Ukraine is not part of our manifest destiny. 

If Obama thinks Russia is just a gas station doesn't that make Ukraine, a rare earth minerals store? 

Hope you feel better...flu bug has been going around here big time.


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Macron: I want Americans to understand that disengaging from Ukraine is not in their interest. Abandoning Ukraine without security guarantees would weaken deterrence against Russia, China, and others. America’s manifest destiny is to be on the side of the Ukrainians—I have no doubt about that.

I think the US and UK owe it to Ukraine to somehow put security measures in place, along with other countries, only because of convincing Ukraine to get rid of their nukes, their only security cards. But, then I understand the problem in dealing with a dictator such as Putin who won't make any concessions. This is a difficult path to forge any lasting peace, I will say that.

Thanks for the well wishes, lately, more times than is normal, when I leave the house I catch some virus. It's concerning. I think I am beating it.
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I feel your pain. I have some virus too. Two weeks now...
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(03-02-2025, 07:20 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I feel your pain. I have some virus too. Two weeks now...

Two weeks is the limit of any type of lung/throat infection where you should have an examination because it could have turned into a bacterial infection.
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Zelensky punches Trump in the face!

https://youtu.be/1H9WpkMST8k?feature=shared
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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Russia's Z-Patriots (minority voices from 13% to 27% of the population), military, and veterans are angry with Putin's execution of war and U.S. collaboration.

Putin is now preparing a government bill/law to make it illegal to oppose Russian-U.S. collaboration.

The Russian people have absolutely no power in the face of threats of imprisonment and/or accidental death.

https://theconversation.com/as-the-kreml...ppy-250716
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(03-02-2025, 07:44 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Zelensky punches Trump in the face!

https://youtu.be/1H9WpkMST8k?feature=shared

Yeah, the jokes are out there. A Saturday Night Live (SNL) skit about the Trump-Vance-Zelensky fiasco is circulating now.
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Europeans and Brits ought to be thankful that Trump has spurred their leaders to step up and finally take control of the security of Europe 

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(03-02-2025, 10:29 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Europeans and Brits ought to be thankful that Trump has spurred their leaders to step up and finally take control of the security of Europe 

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·=#ffffffThe defense summit in London has began. Representatives from Europe, Canada, Turkey and NATO are present.[Image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlC48PEWAAEu...name=small]

Just because Trump spurred other nations to step up and take more responsibility does not mean he has any sway or can successfully negotiate lasting peace. It's not up to anyone but Russia and Ukraine to make it happen. Unless, of course, they/we step into a WWIII scenario, but even then, at what cost, and for what outcome, and for how long?
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