Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

"You want to send your own people to be troops to defend Ukraine in an unending war .. go ahead".

No. Only if the War is ended.

By a Peace Deal?

Ended. Not, unending.

[quintessentone]

"You want to send your own people to be troops to defend Ukraine in an unending war .. go ahead".

No. Only if the War is ended.

By a Peace Deal?

Ended. Not, unending.

Can it ever realistically be ended with a dictator like Putin?

[FlyersFan]

"You want to send your own people to be troops to defend Ukraine in an unending war .. go ahead".

No. Only if the War is ended.

By a Peace Deal?

Ended. Not, unending.

"Peacekeepers" in Ukraine will be fully armed and combat ready.
And they will never be able to leave.
Because Russia and Putin will always be wanting more of Ukraine and other countries.
And Ukraine doesn't have the troops to keep them out.
It will be never ending.

[Oldcarpy2]

But it would have the UK and other European air forces to stop them.

Let's not just focus on boots on the ground.

Russia's air force would be no match.

They haven't even got air superiority over Ukraine.

[Oldcarpy2]

Of course, there is the fact that Putin and his economy will not be never ending...

[quintessentone]

But it would have the UK and other European air forces to stop them.

Let's not just focus on boots on the ground.

Russia's air force would be no match.

They haven't even got air superiority over Ukraine.

And ...

Ukrainian soldiers are now using a long-range drone capable of traveling up to 2,000 kilometers (1,242 miles) and carrying a 250-kilogram air bomb, the Unmanned Systems Forces said on Jan. 31. The drone is described as a “unique development” and a potential game changer on the battlefield.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-depl...tary-says/

[quintessentone]

But it would have the UK and other European air forces to stop them.

Let's not just focus on boots on the ground.

Russia's air force would be no match.

They haven't even got air superiority over Ukraine.

It was just reported that their interest rate is 21%, just how long can they keep that up?

[Maxmars]

Moderator Note:

Please recall that the moment you begin to address one another personally and directly, an unwanted element of friction might become impossible to ignore.

By definition, such utterances are in fact (at least in this context,) OFF TOPIC.

Such things are fairly easy to avoid directly, but since we are not robots, we understand that the threshold into the issue can be fluid in practice.
No one has yet fallen to this (although something tells me we're getting there.)

So I offer a touch of a pre-emptive PSA... just so I can feel like I'm still doing something useful... 

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This conversation seems spectacularly productive to me.  We obviously don't agree on many things.... and even so... we want to talk about it... and we ARE letting each other talk...  No one has shut anyone down, no one has cast aspersions on another's' values...  What matters is that we disagree... not the flummery of the international celebrity clown show, and traditional biases foisted by people we never met.

This is how exactly solutions are found.

I have come into a bit of contention into my assertion that our information sources (ALL of them) are patently suspect.  There is no honor in how the political animal manifests when sponsored by theater...  "Expedient Appearances" might end up being the death of us all... and yet we worship the storytellers... as if they actually supposed DO anything other than report.

[Oldcarpy2]

Uh Oh....

From that source:

"Until now, conventional warfare in which tanks and artillery play a major role remains valuable and therefore essential. Until also these will get Robotic. Have a look at the Military trends to watch in 2025. The power lies in the coherence of integrated and combined warfare. As said, AI purposes are growing rapidly and as you know, AI learns from itself and the time could possibly come that AI will outgrow human control …. let’s ignore that ….. our species is great at ignoring things which we feel are beyond our control."

Skynet, anyone?

[UltraBudgie]