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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
Do you have a source for there being an agreement?

Was it mentioned in that "show"?
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(03-01-2025, 12:06 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: They haven't run out of troops.

If they had, Russia would be in Kiev.

How would a peace agreement with Putin work by just trusting him to keep his word?

His record on that ain't too good.

1 - I said they are running out of troops .. and they are.  Their country is just so big.   They have just so many people.  And they have been fighting 3 years with big casualties.  They can't keep it up.  But Russia can.  They have  more people and they have more 'help' from their minion nations like North Korea.

2 - Putin is a monster and can't be trusted.  How a peace agreement with Putin works is for negotiations in private.   What happened yesterday was about an agreement for fine earth minerals.   The agreement was reached and it was agreed that there were no extra security measures as part of that agreement.   Then Zelenskyy tried to pull a fast one in front of the world press and demanded extra security measures for the fine earth minerals agreement, thus he broke the agreement that was made in private.   Zelenskyy tried to play fast and loose ... and lost.
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(03-01-2025, 12:02 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: How did he break any agreement?

He has consistently wanted security guarantees.

As for being rude, falsely accusing Zelensky of being a dictator with a 4% approval rating probably qualifies as such.

When the US run by the leader of the Free World votes at the UN votes with the likes of Russia, Iran and NK, do you not think that to be a tad disturbing?

Zelensky was ambushed with Trump's and Vance's bad attitudes that Zelensky would not kiss the gangsta ring. How rude of the insolent pig (Russia's government official's words).
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(03-01-2025, 12:12 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Do you have a source for there being an agreement?

Was it mentioned in that "show"?

Yeah ... every news outlet in the world is a source.  Everyone reported it.

The whole point of them coming before the cameras was to say that they had an agreement.
If there was no agreement, then the White House wouldn't have announced the agreement and
they wouldn't have been sitting there on the couch with all the big players sitting around them 
and the news cameras being there ... the whole point was to say that they had reached an agreement.
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"YOU come off it. You know that 'peacekeepers' end up engaging, especially when the host country has run out of troops and the only thing standing between the host country (Ukraine) and the invading country (Russia) are the 'peacekeepers'."

No, you said "has".
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(03-01-2025, 12:14 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Zelensky was ambushed with Trump's and Vance's bad attitude that Zelensky would not kiss the gangsta ring. How rude.

Nope.   Zelenskyy tried to pull a fast one, switching up what the agreement was, and he got called out on it.   Zelenskyy looked like an amature.   He should be embarrassed.  But the anti-Trump press will just enable him .. and useful idiots will soak up the Trump-hate instead of using their heads to see what happened.   The world is pretty dumbass that way.

And no ... I"m  not a Trump loyalist nor MAGA nor Republican.  So don't bother going there ...
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(03-01-2025, 12:15 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: No, you said "has".

Yeah .. they absolutely are running out of troops.
And the ones they have are tired after fighting their asses off for three years.
You can't keep the same troops fighting like that endlessly.  It doesn't work.
(I was ARMY.  I"m telling ya' ...  you have to rotate troops .. and they don't have them).
The ones they have are dying and tired.  There are no replacements.
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Is Russia rotating their troops?

Are they not tired, dieing and being injured?
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(03-01-2025, 12:12 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Do you have a source for there being an agreement?

Was it mentioned in that "show"?

It was reported that the day before this fiasco, Zelensky insisted, yes insisted, that he will sign the agreement only if security measures are to his satisfaction. Trump didn't bother telling him 'forget it', just let him think there was a chance, and we all see what they did after that. But, hey, what did Trump say, "It makes for great TV". Yeah sure, we see what you are doing. Unfortunately, many American people don't see the underhandness and bad faith.
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(03-01-2025, 12:21 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It was reported that the day before this fiasco, Zelensky insisted, yes insisted, that he will sign the agreement only if security measures are to his satisfaction. Trump didn't bother telling him 'forget it', just let him think there was a chance, and we all see what they did after that.

That's incorrect.

Much like your insistence that Musk is on "LSD, cocaine, ketamine or who knows what else, or what mix" and "is drooling".

It was reported all over, from all sources both left and right, that there was an agreement.   That was the whole point of them being there, infront of the cameras, and with all the big names present.  If there was no agreement, then that wouldn't have been happening.
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