Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

Starmer is talking about putting British troops into Ukraine.  How about UK doesn't screw up the peace talks a Second Time, like BOJO did? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbHIK2VK4O0

Dont shoot the messenger.

What?

As part of a peace deal.

Why so dishonest?

[sahgwa]

What?

As part of a peace deal.

Why so dishonest?

If the war were to be ended, then there is no need for 'peace keeping' troops.  That's all I am saying.  He should be more concerned with getting something ratified than talking about adding soldiers to the mix.

[putnam6]

She ain't wrong here at all

 The payments weren't guaranteed likely because a certain percentage was laundered through Ukraine and back into politicians' pockets

Rep. Nancy Mace

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America had a choice: loan Ukraine aid like Europe did—or gift it with no strings attached. Why did they choose to give it away instead of making sure we got paid back?

[sahgwa]

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT

UKRAINE AGREES TO MINERALS DEAL WITH USA

https://www.ft.com/content/1890d104-1395...99aed448e6

Kiev has bitten the carrot, now will there be more carrot or will there be nothing at all?

Ukrainian officials say Kyiv is now ready to sign the agreement on jointly developing its mineral resources, including oil and gas, after the US dropped demands for a right to $500bn in potential revenue from exploiting the resources.
Although the text lacks explicit security guarantees, the officials argued that they had negotiated far more favourable terms and depicted the deal as a way of broadening the relationship with the US to shore up Ukraine’s prospects after three years of war.
“The minerals agreement is only part of the picture. We have heard multiple times from the US administration that it’s part of a bigger picture,” Olha Stefanishyna, Ukraine’s deputy prime minister and justice minister who has led the negotiations, told the Financial Times on Tuesday.

[putnam6]

FWIW....supposedly a peacedeal has been reached, looking for confirmation

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A PEACE DEAL has been reached between Russia and Ukraine. Zelensky is flying to the USA to sign the deal made with President Trump. Not finalized here are some key details. - The United States will earn 50% of the future revenue from Ukraine's mineral wealth as repayment for the United States Tax Dollars spent on the war - No membership to NATO. Ukraine was never going to join NATO. That has always been a line in the sand for Russia and what started the war in the first place. - No boots on the ground. Zelensky tried to "backdoor" nato membership by placing US or European troops on the ground in Ukraine. Instead, There will be a demilitarized zone. - Ukraine concedes territory. Exactly how much is yet unknown, but Ukraine was never going to get all of its territory back any more than they were going to join NATO. - I haven't seen any concessions released by Russia yet. So get ready for more Puttin Puppet Hoaxes. But the reality is Ukraine never had a chance against Russia. Biden started this war. Boris Johnson sabotaged a peace deal. Likely millions died and hundreds of billions of dollars were spent as a result. Trump ran on bringing peace to Ukraine. Promises Made, Promises Kept. MAGA
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[sahgwa]

FWIW....supposedly a peacedeal has been reached, looking for confirmation

Wonderful news if true!
END THE KILLING

[UltraBudgie]

So, anyone want to put odds on Zelensky not returning to Ukraine after Friday's meeting? I wonder if ensuring his escape route is (secretly) part of the deal.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I'm not reading anything substantial yet on a legit deal being reached.

But I am possessed and hear the voice of a disembodied 1800s New Orleans harlot that reveals what's obvious to me. I have to get it translated from French.

She says the peace deal will include these provisions:

• Russia Keeps captured territory in Eastern Ukraine that is already Russia-Sympathetic. The 4 oblasts taken.

• Ukraine cedes mineral rights and agrees to repay The USA for largely funding their otherwise hopeless war, that Russia is now justified for because dirty NWO monies funded the "now totally real corruption" Putin was fighting all along. (gag)

• Ukraine gets restricted from full NATO membership for at least 20 years, with prospect for membership allowed as a carrot of "dream on."

• Zelenskyy must step down to hold new "free and fair elections" in which the proper Russian toadie can be elected to agree with Putin on NATO.

That seems about like the deterministic outcome now pending.

We get compensation in the form of lithium, cobalt, nickel, copper, and zinc. Ukraine gets nothing but it's allowed continued existence, which it will be told it should be thankful to libtarded America for still having. Then we get battery and wire materials.

Everyone important wins! That's how deals are done. Like Gazprom and ExxonMobil raping a windfarm until it agrees to not be renewable energy.

[putnam6]

I'm not reading anything substantial yet on a legit deal being reached.

But I am possessed and hear the voice of a disembodied 1800s New Orleans harlot that reveals what's obvious to me. I have to get it translated from French.

She says the peace deal will include these provisions:

• Russia Keeps captured territory in Eastern Ukraine that is already Russia-Sympathetic. The 4 oblasts taken.

• Ukraine cedes mineral rights and agrees to repay The USA for largely funding their otherwise hopeless war, that Russia is now justified for because dirty NWO monies funded the "now totally real corruption" Putin was fighting all along. (gag)

• Ukraine gets restricted from full NATO membership for at least 20 years, with prospect for membership allowed as a carrot of "dream on."

• Zelenskyy must step down to hold new "free and fair elections" in which the proper Russian toadie can be elected to agree with Putin on NATO.

That seems about like the deterministic outcome now pending.

We get compensation in the form of lithium, cobalt, nickel, copper, and zinc. Ukraine gets nothing but it's allowed continued existence, which it will be told it should be thankful to libtarded America for still having. Then we get battery and wire materials.

Everyone important wins! That's how deals are done. Like Gazprom and ExxonMobil raping a windmill for being renewable energy.

 
Heres more details FWIW 


https://kyivindependent.com/breaking-kyi...rals-deal/

Quote:The Financial Times reported that Ukraine has secured more favorable terms during the negotiations and is framing the deal as a way to strengthen ties with the U.S. Ukraine's Cabinet of Ministers is expected to recommend on Feb. 26 that the deal be signed, sources familiar with the discussions told Bloomberg.
Zelensky will likely head to Washington for a signing ceremony in the coming weeks, according to the Financial Times. The signing could come as early as Feb. 28, a senior Ukrainian official reportedly told AFP.
The final version of the agreement, dated Feb. 24, establishes a fund to which Ukraine will contribute 50% of proceeds from the "future monetization" of state-owned mineral resources, including oil, gas, and related logistics. The fund will invest in projects within Ukraine.
The deal excludes resources that already contribute to Ukraine's state budget, meaning it will not cover operations by Naftogaz and Ukrnafta, the country's largest oil and gas producers.
The agreement does not include security guarantees from the U.S., which Kyiv had initially insisted on.
The latest draft of the agreement drops earlier U.S. demands for a $500 billion claim over Ukraine’s natural resources, which had been a major sticking point, according to the Ukrainian media outlet Economic Pravda, which has seen the agreement.
Under the revised terms, the fund will receive 50% of revenues from Ukraine’s resource-related infrastructure, including ports. Joint ownership will be determined based on actual financial contributions, and while management will be shared, the U.S. will have decision-making authority under its own laws.

The questions of the U.S. stake in the fund and the terms of “joint ownership” will be addressed in follow-up agreements, according to the Financial Times.
Zelensky had previously rejected the U.S. proposal, citing the lack of security guarantees and objecting to the 1:2 repayment structure, which would have required Ukraine to return two dollars for every one received in aid.
The Trump administration has increased pressure on Ukraine to finalize the deal in the past weeks, with Trump publicly attacking Zelensky, calling him a "dictator without elections" and urging him to "move fast, or he won’t have a country left."
Trump has framed the agreement as a way to strengthen Ukraine’s economy while ensuring the U.S. "recoups the tens of billions of dollars and military equipment sent to Ukraine."

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BREAKING: THINGS THAT HAVE ALWAYS HAPPENED, ARE HAPPENING UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND YOU NEED TO BE ENRAGED ABOUT THEM NOW.

[UltraBudgie]

Don't forget the next phase, where the US can now move to foment just enough internally focused strife in Ukraine, to 1) create enough chaos to steal anything that isn't stolen yet, 2) keep Europe dancing in fear of violent spillover, 3) scuttle any external economic deals the US doesn't approve of, 4) keep blaming Putin for it all, 5) make Trump look like a hero or traitor, depending on the audience.