Feds to take control of 2000 Cali National Guardsmen for anti ICE riots

[FlyersFan]

 undocumented immigrants ... cost $150 billion ignores their tax contribution, which is over $30 billion annually.

1.  NO.   Not 'undocumented immigrants'.   ILLEGAL ALIENS.   Criminals.  Line jumpers.   Here illegally.   20 million of them.  An invasion of illegals.

2.  They cost US taxpayers at least $150 billion a year.   They cost much much much more than they allegedly contribute.

Bottom line .. they don't belong here.   They all need to GO.

[Oldcarpy2]

Had you rather let neighborhoods burn as has been allowed in the past. Local law enforcement has been ordered to allow the protests to get out of hand, beyond what they can stop. 

'Mostly peaceful' riots, looting, and arson need to be stopped before they start. They have gone beyond protests already in many instances.

Here is the legal basis for deploying the National Guard:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12406


"Whenever—(1)the United States, or any of the Commonwealths or possessions, is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation;(2)there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States; or(3)the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States;the President may call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in such numbers as he considers necessary to repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion, or execute those laws. Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia."

Like I say, a slippery slope.  And you are on it.

[FlyersFan]

Had you rather let neighborhoods burn as has been allowed in the past. Local law enforcement has been ordered to allow the protests to get out of hand, beyond what they can stop. 

'Mostly peaceful' riots, looting, and arson need to be stopped before they start. They have gone beyond protests already in many instances.

Exactly.   

The George Floyd riot mentality at work ... just let the rioters loot and break the law to destroy cities ...  

It looks like the left wing in America loves this and apparently anti-Trump foreigners as well.   Luv'n having American cities riot and loot and burn down, all to support their political position which is destructive to America.

The governor and mayor in Los Angeles refuse to do their job and protect American citizens.   So ... call in the National Guard, or the Marines, or whatever else the feds want.  Lawbreakers, American or not, need to be held accountable and lawful order needs to be restored.

[xuenchen]

Deployment of the National Guard is a sledgehammer to crack a nut but it creates a useful precedent for Trump, a very dangerous one at that.

If he succeeds with his divisive rule, stirring up and inflaming unrest, it's a slippery slope to declaring Martial Law and then anyone will be fair game.

The Constitution and SCOTUS won't help the US, Trump considers himself above all that.

I hope Americans will wake up before it's too late, I really do.  But they seem to be sleepwalking into God only knows what.

The National Guard is there to help enforce laws that RIOTERS are breaking, not get the illegal immigrants out.   The Los Angeles Police didn't act soon enough (per their orderzz) and we see what happened didn't we. 

[xuenchen]

Root Causes 

[MonkMode]

“Donald Trump’s “border tsar” Tom Homan has warned that someone could “lose their life” if clashes between protestors and immigration officers continue.”

See that is clearly somebody willing to kill to assert dominance.

Dangerous precedent indeed.

And I doubt he is even capable of assembling a modest of Home Depot project.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg7vxx888kt

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Deployment of the National Guard is a sledgehammer to crack a nut but it creates a useful precedent for Trump, a very dangerous one at that.

If he succeeds with his divisive rule, stirring up and inflaming unrest, it's a slippery slope to declaring Martial Law and then anyone will be fair game.

The Constitution and SCOTUS won't help the US, Trump considers himself above all that.

I hope Americans will wake up before it's too late, I really do.  But they seem to be sleepwalking into God only knows what.

Like our president said, "It's purposefully inflammatory" to deploy Guard troops over this. 

This wasn't even approaching 2020, yet it's like he waited for the FIRST California protest to devolve into a riot, and make this move.  

But I guess this is the direction people wanted. 

And now there's a bunch of people in LA seeking out National Guard to engage with and martyr themselves over, but at least everyone is too distracted for diversity and inclusion this June, right?  

This America is better.  There's no one forcing their beliefs on anyone this year, or using government authority to accomplish their agenda.  Plus, The White House looks better only white, and not bathed in an oppressive rainbow hue.

[andy06shake]

1.  NO.   Not 'undocumented immigrants'.   ILLEGAL ALIENS.   Criminals.  Line jumpers.   Here illegally.   20 million of them.  An invasion of illegals.

2.  They cost US taxpayers at least $150 billion a year.   They cost much much much more than they allegedly contribute.

Bottom line .. they don't belong here.   They all need to GO.

You are entitled to your opinion, but you should recognise that the sort of rhetoric echoes authoritarian propaganda.

You're scapegoating a group, inflating numbers, and using dehumanising language like "invasion" and "criminals" to describe an entire group of people.

Adolf Hitler did that sort of thing.

Again, many undocumented immigrants pay taxes, contribute to your economy, and seek asylum legally.

And your $150 billion claim lacks context, especially with U.S born children are concerned.

Not to mention, labeling them as criminals is false.

Being undocumented is a civil, not criminal, offense.

History warns us that demonising entire groups leads to real harm.

And tends not to work out too well for those who do so for their own ends and agenda.

[FlyersFan]

You are entitled to your opinion, but you should recognise that the sort of rhetoric echoes authoritarian propaganda.

Nope.  I'm stating a fact.  20 million people are ILLEGAL ALIENS.  Line jumpers.   Law breakers.  Criminals.  Engaged in an invasion. 

That's not 'demonizing' .. that's stating the truth.  

Trying to downplay it and call them 'undocumented' doesn't change the truth of that.

And playing the Hitler card is weak.   

Internet rules - When ever anyone plays that ... they have already lost.

[Oldcarpy2]

Xuenchen wrote:

"The National Guard is there to help enforce laws that RIOTERS are breaking, not get the illegal immigrants out. Cool The Los Angeles Police didn't act soon enough (per their orderzz) and we see what happened didn't we. Cool_rsvd"

I didn't say they were there to get the illegals out.

But I did post the legal basis for deploying them, but the rule of law and legalities appears to be waived by some.