England cutting back air conditioning during heat wave

[Hypntick]

Wave power, for example, it's not that expensive and doesn't have any big impact on the environment. Near Oporto, in Portugal, they have an installation projected to produce 1 MW installed on the breakwater of the Douro river mouth.

I know there's definitely a size comparison difference based on the fact that this is for a city, but just one of the coal plants here produces 1500 MW, that's not counting the two nuclear plants, the hydro dams, and the other LNG plant. The ideal is full nuclear, but Chornobyl and Three Mile Island have pretty much ended that debate in many places.

[ArMaP]

I know there's definitely a size comparison difference based on the fact that this is for a city, but just one of the coal plants here produces 1500 MW, that's not counting the two nuclear plants, the hydro dams, and the other LNG plant. The ideal is full nuclear, but Chornobyl and Three Mile Island have pretty much ended that debate in many places.

Don't forget Fukushima!

Nuclear has the advantage of using small amounts of fuel for long periods, but it has some disadvantages, one of them being the heat they produce (two weeks ago or so, in France, they had to stop one nuclear power plant because the temperature of the river it uses to discharge the cooling water was too high.

Also nuclear plants have a small efficiency, producing heat to create vapour to move a turbine to move a generator is hardly effective. It works, but some around 2/3 of the energy used is lost as heat.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Don't forget Fukushima!

Nuclear has the advantage of using small amounts of fuel for long periods, but it has some disadvantages, one of them being the heat they produce (two weeks ago or so, in France, they had to stop one nuclear power plant because the temperature of the river it uses to discharge the cooling water was too high.

Also nuclear plants have a small efficiency, producing heat to create vapour to move a turbine to move a generator is hardly effective. It works, but some around 2/3 of the energy used is lost as heat.

The biggest problem with atomic energy is humans. Always has been, always will be. The most feared word in atomic energy is oops.

Chernobyl was a rushed series of tests to get it started quicker. It go boom. 

Fukushima was a design problem. Put the backup generators in the basement on the sea shore. It go boom. 

Three Mile Island was an operator error that unfortunately occured right after a hit movie came out about a faulty reactor installation. 

That is not to mention the fact that a few atoms of fuel in your body will kill you. 

At least when they blow up the first fusion reactor the fall out will be a much smaller area. And I am confident they will somehow melt or blow up one sooner or later. 

And the heat problem. Even simple water turbines heat the water slightly. And battery power gets warm when charging and discharging. 

Heat is unavoidable. But increasing the heat over a large area is not.

[worldstarcountry]

I think I saw NYC Mayor Mamdani recommend people keep their thermostats at 78ºF to help with the heatwave. People were losing it like he just demanded you worship satan or something. I don't much care for that fellow, but 78 degrees is nothing. I am a Florida swamp baby and loves my heat and humidity. I been doing more running and bike riding this summer probably than any other year in the last decade.

I have been keeping my thermostat at 78 degrees for years. I really think it's quite a pleasant temperature, and the produce still keeps well at that temp. You know, like apples, bananas, oranges, avocados, etc. Whenever I have heard people tell me they never go higher than 72, I thought wtf is wrong with you? Some younger co-workers I knew have told me they keep it in the sixties! My wife drops it down to 76 when i am not looking or dozing off first. The kids dont care, they grew up that way and find it perfectly comfortable. 

Sometimes at a park, I just fall asleep in the sun. Honestly I get some of the best sleep ever on the years hurricanes kill our power and there is no climate control for days. But I understand not everyone is a fan, and I am an anomaly. Gives us an excuse to keep the water hose clipped to a tree facing up in shower mode as well. 

[quintessentone]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/an...r-AA26x3nA
The English government telling people they can't use their air con during a massive heat wave is a bit much. At the very least they could set a temperature for when it could be turned on/off. Sounds like it's going to be a long summer across the pond!

Meanwhile in my country, government is now allowing(?) people who live under a landlord's penny pinching thumb/grip to install air conditioners in the windows, but in turn the landlords' are threatening to raise their rent to offset the higher electricity costs. The people will always get the pointy end of the stick.

[vonclod]

Meanwhile in my country, government is now allowing(?) people who live under a landlord's penny pinching thumb/grip to install air conditioners in the windows, but in turn the landlords' are threatening to raise their rent to offset the higher electricity costs. The people will always get the pointy end of the stick.

Usually the tenant pays the electricity, the heat might be paid by the landlord, sometimes cable as well. I dunno, thats how it is here.

[ArMaP]

Meanwhile in my country, government is now allowing(?) people who live under a landlord's penny pinching thumb/grip to install air conditioners in the windows, but in turn the landlords' are threatening to raise their rent to offset the higher electricity costs. The people will always get the pointy end of the stick.

In Portugal the tenants are the ones responsible for all the common expenses like water and electricity.

[quintessentone]

All I was pointing out was that heat can kill, therefore why are landlords not responsible in any way to provide A/C as they are responsible to provide heat as a necessity to life?

[andy06shake]

Usually the tenant pays the electricity, the heat might be paid by the landlord, sometimes cable as well. I dunno, thats how it is here.

Im a private tenant and I'm responsible for the cost of all the utilities.

Suppose it depends on the type of lease you sign where you hail from. 

Or if the home is possibly a "House in Multiple Occupation" (HMO).

[andy06shake]

All I was pointing out was that heat can kill, therefore why are landlords not responsible in any way to provide A/C as they are responsible to provide heat as a necessity to life?

I imagine if the house came with an AC.

The landlord would be responsible fo the condition and maintenance of the unit.

In the same manner, they are obligated to make sure your combi boiler and central heating.

Are in a safe state and functional all year round.

But i would not expect them to foot the bill for the electricity.

Unless thats part of the tenancy agreement...