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(07-02-2026, 06:46 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Wave power, for example, it's not that expensive and doesn't have any big impact on the environment. Near Oporto, in Portugal, they have an installation projected to produce 1 MW installed on the breakwater of the Douro river mouth.
I know there's definitely a size comparison difference based on the fact that this is for a city, but just one of the coal plants here produces 1500 MW, that's not counting the two nuclear plants, the hydro dams, and the other LNG plant. The ideal is full nuclear, but Chornobyl and Three Mile Island have pretty much ended that debate in many places.
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(07-02-2026, 09:10 AM)Hypntick Wrote: I know there's definitely a size comparison difference based on the fact that this is for a city, but just one of the coal plants here produces 1500 MW, that's not counting the two nuclear plants, the hydro dams, and the other LNG plant. The ideal is full nuclear, but Chornobyl and Three Mile Island have pretty much ended that debate in many places.
Don't forget Fukushima!
Nuclear has the advantage of using small amounts of fuel for long periods, but it has some disadvantages, one of them being the heat they produce (two weeks ago or so, in France, they had to stop one nuclear power plant because the temperature of the river it uses to discharge the cooling water was too high.
Also nuclear plants have a small efficiency, producing heat to create vapour to move a turbine to move a generator is hardly effective. It works, but some around 2/3 of the energy used is lost as heat.
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07-02-2026, 01:53 PM
This post was last modified: 07-02-2026, 02:00 PM by BeyondKnowledge. 
(07-02-2026, 01:27 PM)ArMaP Wrote: Don't forget Fukushima!
Nuclear has the advantage of using small amounts of fuel for long periods, but it has some disadvantages, one of them being the heat they produce (two weeks ago or so, in France, they had to stop one nuclear power plant because the temperature of the river it uses to discharge the cooling water was too high.
Also nuclear plants have a small efficiency, producing heat to create vapour to move a turbine to move a generator is hardly effective. It works, but some around 2/3 of the energy used is lost as heat.
The biggest problem with atomic energy is humans. Always has been, always will be. The most feared word in atomic energy is oops.
Chernobyl was a rushed series of tests to get it started quicker. It go boom.
Fukushima was a design problem. Put the backup generators in the basement on the sea shore. It go boom.
Three Mile Island was an operator error that unfortunately occured right after a hit movie came out about a faulty reactor installation.
That is not to mention the fact that a few atoms of fuel in your body will kill you.
At least when they blow up the first fusion reactor the fall out will be a much smaller area. And I am confident they will somehow melt or blow up one sooner or later.
And the heat problem. Even simple water turbines heat the water slightly. And battery power gets warm when charging and discharging.
Heat is unavoidable. But increasing the heat over a large area is not.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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I think I saw NYC Mayor Mamdani recommend people keep their thermostats at 78ºF to help with the heatwave. People were losing it like he just demanded you worship satan or something. I don't much care for that fellow, but 78 degrees is nothing. I am a Florida swamp baby and loves my heat and humidity. I been doing more running and bike riding this summer probably than any other year in the last decade.
I have been keeping my thermostat at 78 degrees for years. I really think it's quite a pleasant temperature, and the produce still keeps well at that temp. You know, like apples, bananas, oranges, avocados, etc. Whenever I have heard people tell me they never go higher than 72, I thought wtf is wrong with you? Some younger co-workers I knew have told me they keep it in the sixties! My wife drops it down to 76 when i am not looking or dozing off first. The kids dont care, they grew up that way and find it perfectly comfortable.
Sometimes at a park, I just fall asleep in the sun. Honestly I get some of the best sleep ever on the years hurricanes kill our power and there is no climate control for days. But I understand not everyone is a fan, and I am an anomaly. Gives us an excuse to keep the water hose clipped to a tree facing up in shower mode as well.
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Yesterday, 08:25 AM
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(06-28-2026, 09:20 AM)Seeker of Truth Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/an...r-AA26x3nA
The English government telling people they can't use their air con during a massive heat wave is a bit much. At the very least they could set a temperature for when it could be turned on/off. Sounds like it's going to be a long summer across the pond!
Meanwhile in my country, government is now allowing(?) people who live under a landlord's penny pinching thumb/grip to install air conditioners in the windows, but in turn the landlords' are threatening to raise their rent to offset the higher electricity costs. The people will always get the pointy end of the stick.
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