My favorite plane at the moment. It's just beautiful.

wtf is happening at min 4   

Jeff and Sharon were leaving Maui after a two week vacation. They stayed in Lahaina for two weeks. The beaches and restaurants were burnt down due to the fire. Years ago the farmers would burn their sugar cane fields at 6pm. They stopped this practice. Every evening they ate at Aloha Mixed Plate a really cool restaurant on Maui.

Sadness came when the trip ended. Jeff and Sharon were packed aboard a 777 for a flight from hell back to LA. Packed like tuna in a can with engines they took off. The captain welcomed everyone over the loud speaker. Jeff and Sharon felt at peace until the lip late take off. This was not a plane they were on.

Everything changed from seat to bed while take off happened. The captain walked out to the people and said "this is your last flight ever" we all started to freak out. This alien took us to a strange place. Our 777 turned into a triangle ship with light speed.

Our minds raced as time slipped past our souls. Sharon and I wanted a mile high club pin. Nope we got the 50 million mile high club dinner instead. All this love and crazy feelings led us to one thing.

We had a dream on our flight back to LA...

Had to post this link...

Been waitin' on it (He admitted shamelessly)


(The "Diddy List" as read by Scott Baio)

Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eEnSavgLd...ture=share

We all see odd hairdo’s. Post some of your fav do’s! I used to live in NYC and I should have taken photos of the crazy do’s!

I will go first. Please add!

The Jerk do! He looks like a prick!

The mushroom do! WTF

The fingers will do! A face massage all day!

It will do! No words needed!

The 70’s do!

The 10 do

The you need a new do bro!

I'm 4 episodes in and I'm really enjoying it.

I have for some time felt he was a profiteer on the entire phenom but after watching this, I'm on the fence regarding his overall integrity.   Some of the questions he asks are the same ones I've had as well as others.

I'll write more about the show later on when I'm done but if you haven't checked it out, I recommend it. 

There's some great photos and clips presented as well as a boatload of witnesses to various events that I've not seen presented before.  Not the "usual suspects"

This is a particularly narrow OP.

It deals with something recently reported: That "Claude AI" is to become integrated via a partnership between Amazon, and Palantir, with some 'unspecified' US intelligence agencies...

Reportedly (unless I've misunderstood) the government seems to be "off-loading" data analysis to the private market... it appears to be limited to data classified no higher than "secret" but even so... misclassification happens often (caused either by abuse, intent, or error) so I am at the very least, concerned.

This is in no way a 'healthy' behavior for our government... thank you DHS.

From ArsTechnica: Claude AI to process secret government data through new Palantir deal

The partnership makes Claude available within Palantir's Impact Level 6 environment (IL6), a defense-accredited system that handles data critical to national security up to the "secret" classification level. This move follows a broader trend of AI companies seeking defense contracts, with Meta offering its Llama models to defense partners and OpenAI pursuing closer ties with the Defense Department.

First of all I have to point out that the "defense accreditation" they reference is a "deprecated" DoD process, meaning they are officially aware that it's not a 'superior' process... 
Add to that the idea of massive data exchanges with a for profit privately held corporation with numerous foreign ties.. and well... not warm and fuzzy.

This is a "press-release" sourced report so details will be the product of someone writing their own PR material.

Part of the marketing of this grand plan was the 'field-test' of using it for an unspecified American Insurance company... presumably with satisfactory results... but I'm uncertain that because an algorithm set can handle the step of underwriting, that it should necessarily be granted access to classified US data, even if it is only classified Secret and below.

Another part of the marketing push was in the form of a distinction that Claude is said to feature... an value system of imposed "ethical" behavioral rules... referred to as "Constitutional AI."  These guidelines were developed to restrain AI from bouts of 'human mimicry" reflecting racism, crass rudeness, etc.  The "values" were "adopted" from the model of  "Apple’s terms of service"... oh yeah... now I'm feeling safer! 

Anyway... this will be one to watch for me....

I have decided to make a thread for this because it is so:



How about that! No more blue monday!

Here is a web page with more:

https://www.physicalintelligence.company/blog/pi0

If Trump and J.D. live long enough to accomplish half this stuff America will be a better place for it IMO.

This idea of mine stems from this report.
NASA astronauts mum on who got sick after 7 months in space

Quote:The three NASA astronauts who’d spent seven months living and working on the International Space Station would not disclose which of them spent the night in the hospital once back on U.S. soil during their first press conference since returning to Earth two weeks ago.
All three astronauts — Matthew Dominick, Michael Barratt and Jeanette Epps — were rushed to a Florida hospital after splashing down in the Gulf of Mexico on Oct. 25.
But which one of them experienced a medical episode, requiring an overnight stay at the Ascension Sacred Heart Hospital in Pensacola, will remain a mystery — for now.

I opted to put this in New World Order because ultimately... one vital component of such a world is total surveillance...

Total surveillance has no possible success in a social order which values human dignity.  So human dignity must be chipped away, piece by piece, in such a manner as to go unnoticed.

The components of human dignity are debatable, but among them I propose is "privacy."

How better to erase privacy as a detractor of total surveillance as to render it 'negotiable.'

Enter Big Tech... and the idea of monetizing data pertaining to 'users' identity.  Making it 'sellable,' giving it 'exchange value.'  Purchasing habits, browsing interests, associated user contacts, location data... all for sale... in as many ways, and as many times as possible.  Combining them, filtering them, refining them for a 'customer'...

Here is a tiny part of the story I propose...

Your location data...

From ArsTechnica: Verizon, AT&T tell courts: FCC can’t punish us for selling user location data

Backstory: Among the exploits of the FCC (Federal Communication Commission) in the recent past, was a resolution of the committee which set to impose a penalty (fine) for several large ISPs who had embarked on selling location data of otherwise oblivious users (meaning all of them.)  It had been done so egregiously and with such rapidity that the "fine per instance" became 'game changing' in magnitude.

Enter the industry lawyers who say 1) "The FCC has no such power to fine us," and 2) "The FCC action does not 'resolve' the issue; therefore it should be rescinded."

I will spare you my verbose take down of this strategy, which I believe only offers an opportunity for the FCC to "back off."  If you follow such things, it is a fascinating play which will likely end in your location information being "theirs to sell if they want to."  I have little faith in the already captured FCC to effect this change, and propose further that this was a quasi-political stunt charge... meant to intimidate "someone," and not remedy the abuse of our information... our government has shown very little interest protecting our personal data.

Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile are continuing their fight against fines for selling user location data, with two of the big three carriers submitting new court briefs arguing that the Federal Communications Commission can't punish them.

A Verizon brief filed on November 4 and an AT&T brief on November 1 contest the legal basis for the FCC fines issued in April 2024. T-Mobile also sued the FCC, but briefs haven't been filed yet in that case.

"Verizon's petition for review stems from the multiple and significant errors that the FCC, in purporting to enforce statutory consumer data privacy provisions, made in overstepping its authority," Verizon wrote. "The FCC's Forfeiture Order violated both the Communications Act and the Constitution, while failing to benefit the consumers it purported to protect."

Verizon and AT&T both said the fines violate their Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial, and that the location data doesn't fall under the law cited by the FCC. Verizon appealed to the US Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit, while AT&T appealed in the 5th Circuit and T-Mobile appealed in the DC Circuit.

The fines are $80.1 million for T-Mobile, $57.3 million for AT&T, $46.9 million for Verizon, and $12.2 million for T-Mobile subsidiary Sprint. The penalties relate to the 2018 revelation of real-time location data being shared. The FCC proposed the fines in 2020, when the commission had a Republican majority, and the fines were finalized under the current Democratic majority.

Ultimately it only definitively demonstrates that the industry itself refuses the idea that "not selling user data" is a benefit to the consumer.

In the spirit denying ignorance, I often see users concerned around tracking and algorithms on youtube etc. Half the population believes there is conspiracy while the other half collects data.

We see everything, anything we want to. Implementing something like hotjar is pretty standard. A competent engineering team will just build their own tools.

Your web requests are fingerprinted and shared between firewalls.

There is no conspiracy just technology, the way it functions and the people that run it.

Hello DI!

The US presidential elections are over! I have never interfered in discussions about this or that candidate either on ATS or on DI regarding the elections, so as not to be accused of "Russian interference" again. Although everyone who felt like it interfered in the American elections - from the British to the Papuans-Ukrainians. But... this is sacred, this is different. Okay.

Now that everything has ended well, I want to express some of my thoughts. Thank God that there were no clashes and especially no civil war. Those forum participants who remember me from the ATS days remember that I constantly warned Americans about such scenarios, showing what could happen using the example of my Russia. My prayers worked at this stage, I am glad. And I congratulate all Americans on this.

Now about Russian expectations. There is no euphoria in Russia. We all remember very well that it was under Trump that the two current wars were prepared - in Ukraine and in the Middle East. In Ukraine, it was Trump who first authorized the supply of lethal offensive weapons to the regime in Ukraine. It was also Trump who moved the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which serves as the trigger for the conflict. And he also broke the peace agreement with Iran. In addition, it was under Trump that the most extensive deterioration in diplomatic relations with Russia occurred, which began with the expulsion of dozens of Russian diplomats under a far-fetched pretext and the confiscation of Russian diplomatic property.

So there are no illusions. Russia is facing times of tough negotiations. There is no place for ultimatums here, but only for the interests of both countries. So the counter euphoria that Trump will now order Putin, and he will immediately agree to everything - in the trash bin. Putin is not the equal of European leaders who can simply be ordered. Russia cannot be defeated by force, and threatening it is useless. We need to negotiate taking into account the interests of all. The West should finally understand this. At the same time, many Western media outlets write that Putin will begin negotiations from a position of prevailing power. Possibly.

So we are in for long, tedious, and not always productive negotiations. But it is still better than nothing. Moreover, the US and Russia have many points of contact, on the basis of which agreements are possible. I hope that the times of artificially imposed multiculturalism, gender diversity, Satanism, atheism and hatred on national grounds are ending. A simple American worker, a farmer who believes in God, loves his family, his children, his country, honors his parents and his flag, is much closer to a Russian person. We are the same. On this basis, we need to look for points of mutual understanding and trust.

That's all in brief.

Thank you.

Right now, my avatar is my dear cats - I will love them always. ❤️

My background "avatar" is a strange clock because time is going very fast.


Now it is your turn.

Share your thoughts about your avatar.

Mat Gaetz Twitter post, reposting DailyWire

Quote:Gaetz: "BREAKING: Whistleblower reveals FEMA officials in Florida were instructed to bypass hurricane-damaged homes that showed support for President Trump! This is unconscionable discrimination, and Congress MUST INVESTIGATE!"

Quote:DailyWire: "EXCLUSIVE: FEMA Official Ordered Relief Workers To Skip Houses With Trump Signs Whistleblower: 'It's almost unbelievable to think that somebody in the federal
government would think that's okay'"

Why does anything even exist at all? It does seem like the default should be nothing instead of something, but here we are.

Apparently, there is a default that we are not privy? Or are we? How do we define nothing from which emerges something.

If you just take the Occams' razor and slice away to your hearts content and carve away everything there still remains something that makes everything possible. You can't see it or measure it, but it's there, and it won't go away – some liken it to God.

What does it mean to "Deny Ignorance"?

Does it mean telling people what the truth is? Evangelizing rejection of untruth? What is truth, anyway? That's a big question, from 30 thousand feet, and I doubt we're going to answer it on any forum.

Yet, we can somewhat point out what is false. Or, at least, what is inconsistent. Where sets of facts, which always exist within some model of reality and interpretation, are inconsistent. Where personal experience and empirically reproducible observations contradict.

Pretending there aren't contradictions is a form of ignorance. So is ignoring or writing off patterns that others see, and you don't.

Yet the question in practice is what we do for each other. Personally, I'm not here to tell anyone what they should believe. How they should approach their life and their perception of reality. The scope at which they should see the world.

And honestly, I couldn't. For myself, I live in an epistemic uncertain reality. There is no ground-level truth that I could genuinely demand others base themselves upon. Ignorance, to me, always implies some level of unfounded certainty, and with sufficient introspection nothing is certain anywhere.

In fact it's an assumption I make that we all exist with such uncertainty, that the closest we can come is our memory and sense perception -- perhaps not everyone is so constrained, and ignorant. But such reality tunnels tend to be paranoid and antisocial, and not useful. In my experience, everyone is real and in the same boat, so to speak, if engaged with sufficiently to move past projection and prejudice.

So what can we do for each other? Serve as sounding boards? Present alternative ideas and points of view? Do we synthesize push-back for each other? That seems potentially dishonest, if we put forth as truth that which we cannot honestly believe ourselves, as pretense.

The ignorance I would like to deny is the fixed mind, unable to consider anything it cannot rationalize and control. Bound by its assumptions. Not to cut it adrift, or helplessly unanchor it, but to encourage freedom of motion, of thought, if that's what is being sought. No gurus or dogmas; in my experience they just make you their bitch until you force your freedom from them.

We all must individually discover and transcend ignorance in our own ways. Or not. The practice of how we do so, as a group, should remain flexible and open. Challenging others, not to "win", but to give form to the space of our differences. As that must be done with compassion, lest everything degenerate to debate, it is an imperfect and evolving practice.

At some point we need fodder for discussion. Things we think are interesting, that we present to each other. Something we can all grasp on to, in our different ways. Tangible things, to keep it real. Everyone here brings something unique, and it is appreciated. But let's not become a content-mill! It's about cherishing each other, and our own individual interests.

And let's have fun doing it! If there's no fun, if anyone is feeling suppressed or if flame wars loom, let's step back and reconsider. That's the real touchstone.

Thanks for listening to my drivel!

Reportedly some consumers of faulty 13th- and 14th-generation CPUs are gathering to challenge Intel over the problems that surfaced after they marketed their CPUs.

From ArsTechnica: Man sick of crashes sues Intel for allegedly hiding CPU defects

One frustrated customer wants to force Intel to pay untold millions in damages, claiming the company deceptively marketed faulty 13th- and 14th-generation CPUs as "enabling amazing experiences to happen on the PC," when instead products were prone to crashes and blue screens.

In a proposed class action, a New York man, Mark Vanvalkenburgh, said that he regretted falling for Intel's marketing of its 13th-gen CPU as "the world’s fastest desktop processor" capable of delivering "the best gaming, streaming and recording experience" available today.

He and possibly millions of others "reasonably" believed both the 13th- and 14th-gen CPUs would "perform as advertised"—only to discover they'd purchased a reliably "unstable" product triggering "random screen blackouts and random computer restarts" that PC Mag warned perhaps caused "permanent" CPU damage...

Kind of reminds me of "It's safe and effective" and discovering that a better description would have been "sudden and unexpected."  Must be a 'corporate' marketing strategy.

"Intel had a duty to disclose the defect because the defect is material and Intel possessed exclusive knowledge of it," his complaint said, citing pre- and post-release testing that Intel conducts that likely also flagged the issues. "Only Intel had access to those test results. Intel also monitors return rates, and reports of defects. Intel has exclusive knowledge of that information," and allegedly failed to share it with customers.

Reportedly, not all of those CPUs were defective... but it lacks specifics in detail so I'm not sure this is safe to ignore...

Did a multi-panel mosaic of Andromeda last night. This was 1.5 hours of 10sec subs. Tried to edit out the satellite trails the best I could but there were so many. 

Still happy with the result! 

In a move which some might characterize as a response to 'political' developments... the Food and Drug Administration announced on Thursday that the are "beginning" the "process" of "removing" the oral decongestant 'phenylephrine' from the market because they are "not effective at relieving stuffy noses."

In fact, last year, FDA "advisers" unanimously voted that oral phenylephrine is ineffective. (50% of all households in the US used an oral decongestant over the last year according to a Consumer Healthcare Products Association survey.  Oral phenylephrine is used in many OTC cold and cough medicines, including Advil, NyQuil, Sudafed, Robitussin, Tylenol, and Theraflu.

From ArsTechnica: After decades, FDA finally moves to pull ineffective decongestant off shelves

"It is the FDA’s role to ensure that drugs are safe and effective," Patrizia Cavazzoni, director of the FDA’s Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, said in a statement. "Based on our review of available data and consistent with the advice of the advisory committee, we are taking this next step in the process to propose removing oral phenylephrine because it is not effective as a nasal decongestant."

For now, the order is just a proposal. The FDA will open up a public comment period, and if no comments can sway the FDA's previous conclusion that the drug is useless, the agency will make the order final. Drugmakers will get a grace period to reformulate their products.

Note that drug-makers will not be recalling the old merchandise from the shelves... and that they have 6-months to come up with anything they can get away with calling a "new formulation"... and guess what?  It WILL be more expensive because... "blah blah research costs blah blah." (Never mind that 90% of the "research" is payed for by government grants siphoned from tax-payer dollars.)

And from the "War on drugs" Department...

... The decongestant was originally approved by the FDA back in 1976, but it came to prominence after 2006. That was the year when the "Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005" came into effect, and pseudoephedrine—the main component of Sudafed—moved behind the pharmacy counter to keep it from being used to make methamphetamine. With pseudoephedrine out of easy reach at drugstores, phenylephrine became the leading over-the-counter decongestant. And researchers had questions.

So the thing that did work, was "reformulated" to make it less prone to abuse... and rendered actually ineffective... for some two generations of citizens, who dished out billions seeking relief from congestion... FDA hard at work "protecting" 'safe and effective'...  But no one ever mentioned that Merk and Johnson and Johnson found no significant difference between phenylephrine and a placebo in their research.

Last year, the FDA reevaluated the drug again, taking into consideration the new studies and taking a deeper look at the 14 studies from the 1950s to 1970s that earned phenylephrine its initial approval. The FDA noted that those 14 studies assessed congestion using a dubious measure of nasal airway resistance that has since been abandoned. But even with the shoddy measurement, the studies provided mixed efficacy results. And the overall finding of efficacy hinged on only two of the studies, which were conducted at the same lab.

Well... far be it from me to wave the "I told you so flag".... nah... I want to wave it.  The FDA is an adjunct of Big Pharma lobbyists and more...

Bring on the culling of industry from the regulatory bodies of our government... it's LONG overdue.... shut down the revolving door of regulatory capture... or expose it for all it is.

Thought there was a great video right here about 'delusion' and the fact that 'smart' people are just as liable to be affected by it as 'stupid' ones.

Genuinely thought provoking stuff.




• Academic studies on ideological bias get brought up as well as 'fashionably irrational beliefs' (FIBs) and palpable 'woke' absurdities.

Quote:What causes Delusion? The prevailing view is that people adopt false beliefs because they’re too stupid or ignorant to grasp the truth. But just as often, the opposite is true: many delusions prey not on dim minds but on bright ones. And this has serious implications for education, society, and you personally.

In this video in collaboration with Gurwinder, we explore the reasons why intelligent people believe irrational things and what can be done to avoid the allure of delusion.

I posted this on ATS. I do not know what I saw. Other people saw the same thing. It could have been bugs, Chinese lanterns, Flares, lens glare, Elon Musk flying overhead. It was not starlink. They were way to big!

Video first, can’t put video on post.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/8DPldV-9Tag

Photo


I was driving home on October 1st at night. I turned right onto Long Lake Road. As I turned I saw four objects and later two more. The last two were zooming so fast going east to west, I was shocked.

I quickly pulled my car off the road. Jumped out with my iPhone and started taking photos. Seven cars also pulled over. We were like WTF!

It’s was hard to judge the distance, the first four objects looked like they were moving slow. They could have been far away moving super fast. They were over a large lake named Orchard Lake. I looked like by judging distance they were way away from the end of the lake but I could really not tell.

The other people were all talking about what we saw. We will never know. I lost 5g service, I tried to text a photo to a friend. 3 min no service. I have never lost service in this area!

I posted this story on a UFO Michigan FaceBook page and it was picked up by a news station.

Link here https://wcrz.com/ixp/84/p/bizarre-object...field-sky/


After I posted the story I had 100’s of replies. It was starlink, bugs, dust on my phone, US gov dropping flares. Jokes are now make when I see people I know.

Came for the aether, stayed for the way she pronounces Einstein 

So, it’s a new thing 
No dating, 
No marriage
No sex
No babies 
and turns out this is a real thing
A woman’s movement that has sworn off men

I wonder if this attitude leaches into everyday life as well.
No men to help around the home, not allowing a man’s opinion in life, where does it stop

I can see a rise in Western men engaging women from other countries, can see those numbers significantly rise

Sad thing is, now I am a bit older, women who don’t have children at my age seem to carry a burden of loss, of what might have been
Having said that, know a few women who wish they didn’t have kids

Us vs them, what a society we live in
I am inclined to think those 4b women won’t be missed 
Good luck girls, sincerely good luck 




https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/art.../potc61mt3

Flying along over the clouds of time,
I see the puff that makes the rain fall on me.

My seat has had many other visitors,
The view is never the same up here so high.

Below on the ground I see large stations,
Sometimes the turbulence takes its toll.

The wind sheer has moments like shaking hands,

Everything is all right up here from my window of time...