The Nine Numbers of Creation


There are nine numbers of creation; 10 is a reflection of 01 – literally here

• As above so below
• As within so without

There is a tree with 10 spheres referred as sefirot with zero being akin to the ein/ain(nothing, no, or none), and soph(limit), thus, ein soph which translates to no limit of nothing from which emerges the limitless light – the ain soph aur of Kabbalah.

Which does seem kind of reminiscent of contemporary inflation/expansion theories.

Another post over on ATS reminded me of this incident, so I thought I'd share.

A while back my wife and I went on an Alaskan cruise (fabulous; highly recommended).  We were sailing on Princess lines and the cruise departed from Vancouver.  So, we flew up to Vancouver a day early just to see the area. 

That evening I heard some commotion in the hallway of our hotel.  It sounded like some angry chanting.  As it got louder and more raucous, I decided to open our hotel room door to see what was going on.  As soon as I opened the door, the first thing I saw was some dude in military BDU's, a flak jacket and carrying an M-16 coming down the hall!!  No sh!t!  Behind him were a bunch of other similarly dressed people (not all the same), some of them carrying what looked like protest signs.  WTF????

I quickly ducked back inside and told the wife to take cover!  I didn't think they'd seen me, so unless they were going room to room taking hostages, we might be okay.  Or so I thought.  My wife was freaking out (and candidly, so was I, sort of).

We heard the group pass by our door, and heard doors slamming in various directions.  They were all chanting or talking random smack.  After a few minutes it got quiet again, so I decided to take another look.  Everyone was gone.  What the hell???

Called down to the front desk and told the person I talked to what I'd seen and they acted like they had no idea what I was talking about.

After it had been quiet for a while we decided to see if we could just quietly sneak out (we had dinner plans after all).  Sooo....we kind of did the look quickly both ways and zig-zag dash down the hall thing (hiding behind potted plants and and trash cans along the way).  Made it the elevators without incident and went down to the ground floor.

When the elevator door opened...there they all were!!  Hundreds of them, all armed,  many with protest signs.  Then I started to notice something.  Some of them looked strange, like they had some sort of costume on.  Then I saw an alien.  THEN I read one of the protest signs for the first time.  It said..."BRING BACK SG-1!!"...but I had no idea what "SG-1" was.  As I stepped out of the elevator I came face to face with a dude who was every bit of 7 feet tall, just a monster of a human (I'm 6'-4" and even I was looking up at him).  He was dressed in some elaborate gold lame cape and some other goofy looking sh!t.  I still didn't know what "SG-1" was, but my threat level had now gone down considerably.

At about the same time I saw a bunch of these 'militants' all lined up at some sort of a welcoming table where they were shelling out money and putting on name tags.  I figured armed militants aiming to slaughter people probably wouldn't be waiting in line for a name tag, so it must be something else.  The sign above the table said..."Stargate SG-1 Convention".

OHHHHhhhhhhhhh!  Now I get it!!!  Duhhhh! 

These were all just fans of the television program Stargate SG-1.  I had never watched the show, and I didn't know it was filmed in Vancouver, nor that there would be a Star-Trek like convention.  The weapons were all fake, but the signs weren't; these people were genuinely MAD!  They wanted their show back!  The show had been cancelled years before.  LOL!

So, no, it wasn't an al-quaeda terrorist invasion...it was just a costume party.  LOL!

BTW - While not exact, this is pretty much what I saw coming down the hallway of the hotel...(and they weren't smiling and/or waving to fans).

Not sure how many watch Yellowstone.  I am an addict.

But I have a question...what ever happened to the bomb on the plane???  They spent a whole episode or more figuring out what happened, and then launching a special forces like attack to plant a bomb on the plane.  I figured for sure they were going to blow up Jackson Hole or some such (which probably wouldn't be a bad idea now that I think about it, but I digress).  Then the whole story line just vanished.

(a neutron device would probably be better for Jackson Hole though...get rid of the people but leave the town intact, but I digress again).

So what ever happened with all that???

In today's crazy cyber world we have all sorts of people going on "phishing" expeditions.  I had a pretty crazy one happen to me yesterday.

I received a call from a number 720.316.6631.  The caller ID tag was "Department".  The Area Code was correct, and local (not some flaky 800 number, or blocked number).  Didn't look suspicious (too much) so I answered it.  The call went something like this:

Me - Hello, (my name)
Her - Are you the owner of (insert big engineering company)?
Me - Can I ask what this is in regard to?
Her - This is in regard to the Airport?  Are you the owner of (big engineering firm?)
Me - No, I am not the owner.
Her - Can you please connect me with the owner?
Me - May I say who is calling and what, specifically, this is regarding?
Her - My name is Shawnda and it's regarding airport, please connect me with the owner?
Me - Well (big engineering firm) no longer exists
Her - Oh!  I'm sorry. Ummmm.  Uhhhh
Me - Good bye

So, pretty standard phishing call.  Has all the earmarks of a spear-phishing attempt, right.  But it gets WAY weirder!!

First of all, I did in fact work for (big engineering firm), and in a way I still do, but they are no longer known as (big engineering firm), but rather (bigger engineering firm).  So, technically, they don't exist, in name, but they merged with another larger company.

Secondly, this call was received on my personal cell phone.  Big problem with this.  For one thing, I didn't have this cell phone and number when I worked for that company.  And how did they ever:

• Get my personal (not company) cell phone number?, and...
  
• Connect my name to a company which no longer exists?, and...
  
• Know that I work in aviation? and...
  
• Know that (big engineering firm) had contracts at the airport?
  

I post today with some observations and an idea. Haven’t posted in a while and thought that what dawned on me today was interesting. With that…

I’ve had a few days off work visiting my folks. It was good to see them as they’re aging, they like seeing the grandkids, etc.

It also happens to be hot as all bloody hell at home upon our return. Disappointing because it’s a beautiful day but I just can’t do a fourth day in a row in the sun.

So, after spending an hour in the garage trying to buff out the hood on a project car and losing a few lbs of water weight I headed back to the AC to read some news.

Per usual, everything is hyperbolic, partisan mudslinging with a lot of noise and minimal signal. I rarely find an article where I think “yeah, that’s on point” in terms of content and messaging.

This got me thinking… I should take some political affiliation tests for fun. Maybe it’s me?

Turns out, it kind of is.

Here’s what I can say after taking four tests from different sites:

- I’m more libertarian than authoritarian
- I’m more free market than not
- I’m more moderate or “centrist” in general than not
- I’m more socially liberal than not

I can also tell you that the “mainstream” “Quizzes” like Pew and NYT give you very limited options to answer - almost no nuance to answer questions.

Both of these outlets pegged me as “hard core right wing”.

Both of the other tests I took that had many more questions and more of a “1-5” scale more-less pegged me right in the middle - which is more-less where I see myself.

I say all of this as I was pretty blown by, upon further reading, how much “centrists” or “radical centrists” like myself take it from both sides of the political spectrum - this explains my political homelessness.

The shorter tests were trying to make me “pick a side” and then peg me as “hard core right wing” even though I was almost entirely in-line with the “majority of responders”. They are pushing tribalism - not thinking.

I don’t think of myself as “radical” in any way but instead a pragmatist - maybe somewhat of a logic absolutist. To read about how my line of thinking got at least one Kennedy killed was pretty eye opening. Borrowing from the left and right is apparently quite taboo.

But, the real alarming thing to me was about violence. 3/4 tests asked a question about using violence to push an agenda. I answered NO in all cases. Ironically, my lack of desire for any sort of political violence or aggression made me more conservative! Wtf!?

This is the absolute opposite of what the MSM is pushing. In fact, these tests (along with the MSM) are pushing for violence! Unreal!

Because I’m not a “radical” I must by default then be “hard core right wing”? That’s some oddly spun logic based on the broader narrative that has been pushed.

I’m not putting much weight into these quizzes other than seeing what shakes out, how these tests are designed and what they say about the output. It’s downright frightening they advocate for “radicalism” and put down non-violent, centrist views.

These observations align with a realization I had the other day. That observation was that my country hates me. Fully hates me. I’m gainfully employed, pay my taxes, am non-violent, public school educated through higher education, donate my time, “doing my part” with solar on my house (does in fact work), am not a nuisance to society, etc.

But, my country’s leadership hates me because I’m
White with a productive family that includes a mom who stays home to raise our kids while I work (and the kids even attend public school!), am not a radical, hold centrist/pragmatic views overall and use the very skills “the state” taught me to question what’s going on and shaking my head at the “radicalism” on all sides!

Rather than be deflated, I have an idea that I may well deploy - which is one I haven’t yet seen done at scale or marketed - and my experience today affirmed my thinking:

I’m considering starting a website that would allow people to post themselves (family, education level, assets, skills, etc.) and allow countries from all over the world to signal interest to people to relocate to their country because they WANT THEM. Not necessarily pay them to move but signal interest in having someone bring their family, knowledge, education, work-ethic and wealth to their country - be additive to their collective human capital and resources.

Can you imagine? Think California exodus on steroids. Go where you’re wanted!

I even have a name for this venture. :)

Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part that another country would view me and my family as “useful” to their society - because we’re actually useful in a fact-based and non-violent way. It appears that society certainly wouldn’t be “Western” given how all the NATO countries have gone, which is unfortunate as my family can be traced back to the 16th century and is very much NATO aligned.

So, to sum all of what is now stream of consciousness up:
- Political tests with binary multiple choice answers only push tribalism.
- Radicalism is encouraged
- Centrism is frowned upon and apparently dangerous
- This explains the MSM on all sides yet another way
- I see little hope of recovery to the extremism
- This adds to the explanation of why my country hates me, despite making me.
- I think a free market solution to allocating human capital around the globe would have legs and may lead many people to happier lives and more belonging
- It would be interesting to see 10-20 million wealthy centrists move out of the US and to more productive, peaceful and rational societies. At least one great nation could be built inside a generation, elsewhere.
- I suspect the only solution is to leave the US as soon as reasonably possible as we have devolved into something that I doubt is salvageable to my liking - or theirs, it seems.
- It’s all too bad and unfortunate as I wish all of this wasn’t the case, but, the pragmatist in me sees reality for what it is.

Signed -



VW

NASA has recently published a report on ADC energy transmission. It proposes the transmission of DC electricity on the regular AC electricity grid.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/2023...-Final.pdf

As shown in the paper, it does in fact eliminate the disadvantages of the losses due to energy conversion from DC to AC and then back again. The problem is this advantage is only short lived. It fails to consider that over long distances, AC is much better because it can be easily changed to much higher voltages but the low voltage DC cannot.

To transmit electrical power over a long distance, the voltage is increased to reduce the current the wire needs to handle. The voltage of the wire is dependent only on the insulation of the wire. The current of the wire is dependent on the physical diameter of the wire. This means that if a wire can handle 30 amps, it doesn't care if it is 12 volts DC, 120 volts AC, or 12,000 Volts AC.

Power is the energy that can be used and measured in electricity. It is dependent on the voltage and current available. In the voltages listed above the 120 VAC power is roughly 10 times what is available from the 12 VDC source and 1/100 of what is available from the 12,000 VAC source. The problem is all these three examples will heat the wire they are traveling through to the same amount at the same current. You either have to go up with the voltage or go up with the wire size to get the same power out of the transmission system.

The power available from the low voltage DC is not readily changeable to higher voltage DC without the lossy conversion systems the ADC transmission is proposed to eliminate.

It is still more efficient to make the low voltage DC into AC for transmission because the voltage is easily increased many fold to transmit it long distances. By long distances I am meaning more than a couple of miles. What percentage of homes and businesses are located within a couple of miles of a wind farm or solar farm? Very few.

In the paper from NASA, they have proven in a lab that ADC power distribution works in short distances. They never consulted an electrician about any distances involved in the real world.

In my opinion, this is just another case of the highly educated idiots making something look good on paper that would work better as a paper airplane. It could be useful in small niche applications but not on the general electrical power grid.

I am not saying NASA is dumb but they put electronics engineers on an electrical engineering problem an came up with a mostly useless answer.

Any discussion?

Circuit Training


I guess that's what they call it these days, and this would be my number one health related activity. This routine started about fifteen years ago, and although I did workout onward off and on as a teenager, my methods were vastly more crude in comparison to what I'm doing now.

The gist of this is dividing the body up into sections, areas, and targets, with each target having numerous exercises associated with it. The "section" is either upper or lower body, each has various areas, each area having specific targets with specific exercises, e.g. U1 would be upper body area 1 with targets consisting of chest, back, and shoulders.

I'm more focused on higher reps using moderate weight with no rest between sets. The routine progresses in a circular fashion and there are literally a hundred different exercises I do - no stone is left unturned.

It really is insanity putting pen to paper on this. I use a type of shorthand for tracking my activity that consists of small squares with each quarter of the square containing a unique piece of information. I write 8 squares to a line with each page consisting of about 10 lines.

Writing about it is crazy though. It's just nuts.

The Cold War has been a chilling enigma of sorts to me since I really started to become aware of the outside world in any context.  For me, this started in about the 5th or 6th grade.  Ever since then there have been a never ending stream of reminders (revelations really) of what the Cold War really was.  So, what was the Cold War?

In basic terms, I think we all know what the Cold War was about, and who the players were, but few (I don't think) realize how deep it went.  And one of the most amazing things to me is how much of it went on right in front of so many of us without realizing it. 

In an effort to frame this a little, I will cite a personal experience.  I remember once as a kid in about 1968-69 my parents had a piece of property in southern Florida on the Gulf coast.  Back then the area was basically mangroves and unpopulated.  The property they'd bought was the classic speculative property which was rife at the time.  Kind of a ..."Develop it and they will come"... sort of thing, only their property wasn't developed (yet).  It was the kind of thing you saw in the back of a magazine.  (Fortunately they didn't get burned on it like so many others did, but I digress).  The island where this property was is now known as Marco Island which is a thriving paradise of the wealthy, but it wasn't back then.  At the southwest tip of the island was an old radar tracking station.  By the late 60's it had been abandoned by the US military. 

I knew this place well because it was a good place to fish; it sat right at the confluence of a river and the Gulf, and when the tide would change it was great fishing.  But it was also kind of spooky.  Abandoned buildings are always kind of spooky, but this one had extra spook-factor to it because real "spooks" had worked there.  But what did they do?  I wondered.  Well, the easy answer was, they monitored Cuba for early warning missile launches.  I tried to picture what life must have been like at that remote outpost just north of the Ten Thousand Islands (as it is called).  Every night and day sitting there staring at some radar scope waiting for the end of the World.  As an 8 year old, that was a pretty hard concept to wrap my head around...the end of the World.  As the sun would set it felt like ghosts were staring out the darkened windows at me...and maybe they were.

Multi-million dollar condominiums occupy that spot now, and all traces of that radar tracking station have been erased.  As the years wore on I would see literally hundreds of the same types of things all over the country.  For some reason I was drawn to them like a magnet.  Abandoned missile silo complexes, abandoned bases of one form or another...all over Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska, South Dakota, Alaska, Nevada and so many others.  I've probably researched or seen hundreds if not thousands now.  At one point when I was about 18-20 something hit me like a brick to the forehead..."WOW!  These people actually believed that sh!t was really gonna' happen!!!  How could I have missed this?"  Prior to that point it had all been some distant reality, the "Duck & Cover" drills long past, but even from under my desk in 4th grade...it wasn't real.  But it WAS real.

Nuclear submarines playing cat & mouse, bombers encroaching on borders, spies, missiles, distant places always on alert.  It was ALL REAL!

Then one in June 1987 some guy named Ronald Reagan came on TV and said it was all over.  He said..."Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"  Though some had said the actual Cold War had been over for more than a decade, in reality it hadn't been.  Another even colder war started after 1975, one far more dangerous.  But it wasn't until that day in 1987 that we could really come out from under our desks.

One wrong move (and there were many opportunities) and humanity likely would have been extinguished in large part, vaporized.  Now, trillions upon trillions of dollars lies abandoned, only to be replaced by trillions more in new things.

Looking back, it all happened right in front of us, but few saw it even though it was right in front of our eyes the entire time.  But did it ever really end?  Or, was it all just some crazy, spooky, bad dream with ghosts looking out of the windows in some remote abandoned radar tracking station in southern Florida?

At least it had an appropriate name "The Cold War", very chilling indeed.

. . . . they are about ideology.

Way back when, we used to be able to pretend that both parties wanted the same thing, they just had different ways of going about it.

That's all gone now.

We want different things now.

Some want freedom, others welcome a soft tyranny.

"Soft tyranny is an idea first developed by Alexis de Tocqueville in his 1835 work titled Democracy in America.[sup][1][/sup] It is described as the individualist preference for equality and its pleasures, requiring the state – as a tyrant majority or a benevolent authority – to step in and adjudicate.[sup][2][/sup] In this regime, political leaders operate under a blanket of restrictions and, while it retains the practical virtues of democracy, citizens influence policymaking through bureaucrats and non-governmental organizations.[sup][3][/sup] This is distinguished from despotism or tyranny (hard tyranny) in the sense that state of government in such democratic society is composed of guardians who hold immense and tutelary (protective) power.[sup][4]"[/sup]
Soft tyranny - Wikipedia

That's why people will vote for a convicted felon vs a dementia-riddled old man.

Their either voting against the opponent's ideology or for their own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLTrxnTYC1A

If someone is interested in Cold War submarine operations, they might enjoy this clip of HMS Odin gathering photographic intelligence on a Soviet frigate. The navigation and plotting onboard that Oberon-class submarine were still paper and pencil-based.

The Soviet frigate's hull and propeller design are subjects of interest. However, recording the vessel's sound acoustic signature would have been recorded. I don't know if that omission is missing from the video or if it was kept classified.


Moreover, the Oberons were a successful conventional (disease-electric) powered submarine that saw service with the Royal Australian and Canadian navies.

The video is about the OSS, CIA, Operation Paper Clip, the covert war against Russia using NAZI Werewolves, and Operation Gladio. We have all heard about the rumors of drug dealings by the CIA but the Why Files tells us why and even explains what bank was used to hide the vast sums of money... There is much information you can either believe or disregard however if mostly true we live in a very sick lying deceitful world in way to many ways.

Quote:Operation Gladio | How The Mob Financed The CIA's Secret Army After World War II, the CIA hatched a covert plan to stop Soviet expansion in Europe. They created a secret army, recruiting an unexpected mix of allies. This clandestine operation, known as Gladio, spanned across all NATO countries. What began as a defensive strategy quickly morphed into something far more sinister. Innocent civilians became casualties in a shadow war fought on European streets.

Hurricane Beryl is heading towards Texas. Should impact around Victoria, affecting Corpus Christi up to Huston. Austin and Dallas will also probably get storms as it works inland.

Right now it is taking up most of the Gulf of Mexico:


here is the predicted path:



The earliest Category 5 hurricane - beating 2005’s Hurricane Emily.
The earliest Category 4 hurricane - beating 2005’s Hurricane Dennis.
The earliest hurricane so far east in the tropical Atlantic on record
This is also the first time since 1966 we’ve seen a major hurricane before the July 4th holiday

3 dead in Grenada, 3 in St. Vincent/ Grenadine, 3 in Venezuela, and 2 in Jamaica.

Prayers for those affected.

Ready to go virtual machines: https://www.osboxes.org/virtualbox-images/

The above site has a list of ready to go pre loaded configured Virtual Machines for your virtual box client for anyone wanting to try linux without actually installing it

The virtualbox client is pretty self explanatory and can be downloaded from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Enjoy



p.s. Also has android

Regardless of the official story many have suspected all along it was either Mossad or Saudi Arabia who financed and pushed for 911. Looks like a new video finger is pointing at Saudi involvement.

Low battery please charge lol

Alright, I’m ripping this one off from bluemooone44 over at ATS. Because I think it’s a goodie. Since I can’t contribute there, and the source is coming from X. Here’s the link to the video:

https://x.com/WorldNews_X_/status/1808697187947225542



Here we have a stationary object hovering in mid air. It is hard to know for how long as the video begins a few seconds before it starts moving. Blinking lights that appear to be from one singular craft. The object goes from a standstill, to hundreds of miles an hour within seconds. 

As the narrator states, it’s footage from a drone. Which has me asking some questions. It’s obvious the drone operator clued in on the object. Which he follows it as it zooms off. But only for a few seconds before it leaves the screen. Then the video stops. I’m also curious as to why he had a drone in flight. There’s not much context here. CGI? Thoughts?

Absolutely love there is a sub-forum on stand up comedy and here's one about the chicken lol.

Pretty illuminating very short video here from Roy Beck dealing with gumballs and immigration.

Whatever anyone's position on the subject I'd say it's well worth literally six minutes of your time.

Quote:Global humanitarian reasons for current U.S. immigration are tested in this updated version of Roy Beck's colorful presentation of data from the World Bank and U.S. Census Bureau.

The 1996 version has been one of the most viewed policy presentations on the internet.

Seems literally everything is labelled racist these days lol (even smiling).

 











No seriously pick a subject and play this fun game - type any subject into Google and try to find anything that has not been labelled 'racist'?

Quote:Fun Game to Play


I tried “owning a home,” “working,” “studying,” and “adopting pets.” Yep, all racist.

You can just ignore me in this post, I'm just experimenting and trying to answer a question I asked in Board Questions.  I didn't really see a 'sandbox' area to do this so I plopped it here.

@FlyingClayDisk

#FlyingClayDisk

[FlyingClayDisk]

/FlyingClayDisk

\FlyingClayDisk

<FlyingClayDisk>

Hmmmm...none of those work.

Correction - @(alias) does create a hyperlink which when clicked brings up that user's profile, but doesn't create any sort of a notification (that I can see anyway).  None of the other code additions tried above seem to do anything at all.

*FlyingClayDisk*

*FlyingClayDisk

"FlyingClayDisk"

!FlyingClayDisk

?FlyingClayDisk?

?FlyingClayDisk

Nothing with those attempts either.

Never forget without the signers of the DOI, dedication, and determination, we might be Canada or Australia. 

Have a happy and safe 4th of July DI..

They say you don't know what you've got until it's gone, so I got rid of everything so I could see what I have.

– Stephen Wright

During the cold-war, a treaty was conceived between nations which feared the belligerency of their neighbors, it was called the CoCom, (Coordinating Committee for Multilateral Export Controls,) because it was focused primarily on the Cold-War era, it had to be re-established in a less focused state, leading to what is now called the "Wassenaar Arrangement."

The Wassenaar Arrangement (1996) was meant to provide some transparency for the spreading of military technologies across the globe, who was engaging in it, and to what extent.  Giving the multinational organization some platform to address the outcomes of such practices.  Eventually, of course, computers was added to the otherwise obvious list of tanks, ships, weapon systems et. al.

But here's something interesting...

From NewScientist: Multiple nations enact mysterious export controls on quantum computers
Subtitled: Identical wording placing limits on the export of quantum computers has appeared in regulations across the globe. There doesn't seem to be any scientific reason for the controls, and all can be traced to secret international discussions
 

A few years ago thought there was a truly interesting interview with research scientist Linda Zimmerman where she raised the subject of UFO 'animal reaction' cases and provided some truly freaky examples.







From 10:30

Quote:Guest Linda Zimmermann to discuss the reactions of animals during UFO sightings, which may provide clues to the nature of the phenomenon and how to conduct better research. So many sightings occur because the witness was alerted by a dog barking, or barnyard animals making sounds of alarm, but that aspect is usually just a brief mention in reports.

Quote:This page represents the work being done by Joan Woodward (Animal Reaction Specialist) and Jean Waskiewicz (NICAP's Computer Database Specialist) and is under construction.

Joan Woodward's excellent report us linked below. This is summarized version from the original paper, Animal Reactions to UFOs: A Preliminary Investigation from the Animals' Perspective, MUFON Special Publication, July 2005, 60 pp, published as a submitted paper in the 36th Annual International UFO Symposium, (2005) pp. 229-278.



PDF Files:

• Joan Woodward: DOC Animal Reactions to UFOs—A Summary of the Evidence

• NSID Listing of Animal Reaction Cases

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics...68307.html

Quote:Labour is heading for an “extraordinary landside” victory on a scale probably never seen before in Britain, a Cabinet minister said on Wednesday.

As Tories despair over the threat of a crushing defeat on July 4, Work and Pensions Secretary Mel Stride told GB News: “If you look at the polls it’s pretty clear that Labour at this stage are heading for an extraordinary landside on a scale that has probably, never ever been seen in this country before.

Mr Stride’s startling comments, which stopped just short of conceding defeat, came after Survation pollsters found Labour is on course to win more seats than it did in 1997.

The polling firm interviewed 34,558 respondents online and by phone and have said a Labour landslide of more than 418 seats - the number which the party took under Tony Blair's leadership 27 years ago - is "99 per cent certain".