US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Well, thank you for your not sure what to call it, not too commital attempt at clarity there. 

They appreciate everything you do. ;)

But as for why i got snippy, it's because I am still an American before I am a Trump hater, and I support our military vets (regardless of their party affiliation) before I want to criticize Pete Hegseth or his apparent lack of qualifications in his job. 

For me, a line was still crossed when the "free speech" turned to baiting a Nam vet over losing the war and not dying to "stand up for what is right." 

Don't care how obnoxious Harechel Bunnyyan is to everyone or how much you want them all gone. Fuck that shit.

[Astyanax]

This is being reported everywhere except, as far as can see, in the Western media. Possibly because the source is Iranian. Tanker explodes in the Strait of Hormuz after hitting mine.

[Astyanax]

Well, thank you for your not sure what to call it...

Clarification is what I call it.

No doubt, as RoB says, you meant his moral right to speak. But if he is a pacifist, he may well judge it as more wicked to keep silent. As do I, even though I am not a pacifist. 
 

Patriotism cannot be our final spiritual shelter; my refuge is humanity. I will not buy glass for the price of diamonds, and I will never allow patriotism to triumph over humanity as long as I live.
 
Rabindranath Tagore

There are enough people on this thread touting their personal feelings as universal morality. Please don't join them.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Clarification is what I call it.

No doubt, as RoB says, you meant his moral right to speak. But if he is a pacifist, he may well judge it as more wicked to keep silent. As do I, even though I am not a pacifist. 
 

There are enough people on this thread touting their personal feelings as universal morality. Please don't join them.

I can not see any situation where mockery is morally ethical as a pacifist wouldn't do that for they do not wish conflict of any kind which is what makes them pacifist in the first place.

[SteamyAmerican]

Apparently we’ve bombed a Children’s Hospital now.

Ahem.

The Straits opened yet?

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Apparently we’ve bombed a Children’s Hospital now.

Ahem.

The Straits opened yet?

No because you haven't gotten off your ass to open them man, what are you waiting for?

I actually have no idea if its closed or open I don't pay attention to it because crying about it doesn't change anyone's situation, especially mine

[chr0naut]

I can not see any situation where mockery is morally ethical as a pacifist wouldn't do that for they do not wish conflict of any kind which is what makes them pacifist in the first place.

I believe that comedy has an effective and historical place in political dialogue.

I would like to cite many popular American comedians whose observations about the actions of the POTUS have led the administration to try, and fail, to forcefully gag the comedians.

Those comedians who speak truth to power represent the assent and approval of the majority of US television and internet commentary viewers. The comedians viewership significantly exceeds that of the right-wing pro-Trump propagandist networks.

The Emperor is wearing no clothes.

[govshill2]

Firstly, I must apologize for an error on my part. Although 156 were killed at the school, only 120 of those were children.

Without a doubt, three Tomahawk missiles struck the school in sequence, approximately 7 minutes apart (i.e. it wasn't an ordinance misfire, it was a targeted 'triple-tap' strike).

- The preliminary US military investigation said that it was perpetrated by the US.
- Satellite imagery shows three strike points within the school grounds.
- Photography and video of the wreckage shows the particular finned debris consistent uniquely with Tomahawk missiles.
- Donald Trump confirmed that the attack did happen, blaming Iran for targeting themselves (because he is incapable of admitting fault and of reasoning).

2026 Minab school attack - Wikipedia

Trump says Iran at fault for strike on girls school - Politico.

LOL no verified sources again.   ​​​​​​​ ​​​​​​​ ​​​​​​​

[govshill2]

Firstly, I must apologize for an error on my part. Although 156 were killed at the school, only 120 of those were children.

Without a doubt, three Tomahawk missiles struck the school in sequence, approximately 7 minutes apart (i.e. it wasn't an ordinance misfire, it was a targeted 'triple-tap' strike).

- The preliminary US military investigation said that it was perpetrated by the US.
- Satellite imagery shows three strike points within the school grounds.
- Photography and video of the wreckage shows the particular finned debris consistent uniquely with Tomahawk missiles.
- Donald Trump confirmed that the attack did happen, blaming Iran for targeting themselves (because he is incapable of admitting fault and of reasoning).

2026 Minab school attack - Wikipedia

Trump says Iran at fault for strike on girls school - Politico.

LOL you chubs believe anything  ​​​​​​​ ​​​​​​​

[govshill2]

LOL. It's actually fairly robust, objective and testable proof.

Please furnish proof of something that Trumb has said.

WHAT! You're the one quoting Trump. LOL 

LOL you are one of the many that always doubts Trump. Now you believe him all of a sudden!  You miss the parts of how he baits the MSM.

There's no proof anywhere about any schools being hit by missiles in Iran.   ​​​​​​​