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(2 hours ago)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Wow.  Forget you then... Thanks for pissing on my family's service to go after a poster you want to personally engage.  And way to make the site look moderate. And thanks for ignoring my attempts to calm this down so you can mock our war veterans instead. 

I think armed forces still have reason to exist, especially in humanitarian aid, logistics and even deterrence/policing, but I can't pretend that warfare is honorable.

Warfare is a failure of humans being humane, an archaic paradigm that doesn't even remotely achieve all that the idealogues suggest it does.

Quote:From everyone who served, have family who served, or have a loved one currently deployed upholding a sworn duty it's not their job to question.

It bloody well is their job to question. It's part of military law to refuse unlawful orders because the adherence of soldiers to moral and ethical standards is necessary for them to serve justly and not commit (war) crimes.

Quote:Here is the most vulgar war-related Five Finger Death Punch song I could find. I feel it encapsulates the response a vet would have when you say something like that on the anominity of the internet. 

[Video: https://youtu.be/QTCCgQLdHuU?is=CWYDuTgo1w-hvFrv]

And so much for standards. 

* Later edit *

Sorry to lose it there, but my response when ANY veteran is attacked doesn't defer to their political views in any way. 

LEAVE VETERAN STATUS OUT OF THIS.  

I'm over it now, so here's a different song by the same band to go with the previous....

[Video: https://youtu.be/u_VsvZmIWxY?is=SfbEXtg5wU7oW09H]

M*A*S*H* must have really been offensive to those vets.

If no-one can stand-up against what is wrong, then we are doomed as a species.
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(2 hours ago)govshill2 Wrote: Oh and all of that is genuine and proves everything.    Lol Lol Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol
​​​​​​​There's no proof anywhere that's real.   Biggrin

LOL. It's actually fairly robust, objective and testable proof.

Please furnish proof of something that Trumb has said.
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(2 hours ago)RazorV66 Wrote: In the history of shit that never happened, that never happened the most.

Report: Trump disparaged US war dead as ‘losers,’ ‘suckers’ - Military Times

Podiatrist's daughters say bone spur diagnosis that helped Trump avoid Vietnam draft was 'favor'

Trumb's clearly a traitor to the USA and all it stands for.
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