US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[DBCowboy]

They have no self awareness at all.

They embarrass themselves with almost every post and continue to do so with the direct knowledge that they are embarrassing themselves.

I've been a racist, a Russian shill, a Nazi, an Islamophobe, transphobe, anti-gay, redneck hillbilly, ad nauseum

And now they make wee when I use the term ECL like I took a brick to them or burned their business, like ECL's do.

[DBCowboy]

Your score just went up.

I'm a Zionist and not afraid to say it.

[IDELB2006]

This could be bigger than all the other massive attacks.

What he's saying: "I am considering a massive attack. Bigger than ever before. I am close to making a decision. We are all set for it," the president said.

• Trump said Israel "would join in two minutes if I ask them to," but added that "we don't need anybody" to launch a new operation against Iran.
  

All we can do is wait and see.

Aftter oil is up around 20-25% I expect to see Trump trying to make a deal.

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[DBCowboy]

This could be bigger than all the other massive attacks.

All we can do is wait and see.

Aftter oil is up around 20-25% I expect to see Trump trying to make a deal.

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I hope Trump and Israel pound them into the dirt so badly that they NEVER fire a round at a ship or anyone else again.

[IDELB2006]

This could be bigger than all the other massive attacks.

All we can do is wait and see.

Aftter oil is up around 20-25% I expect to see Trump trying to make a deal.

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Trump may need to offer $500  billion in reparations to get them back to the table for a peace deal.

[DBCowboy]

Trump may need to offer $500  billion in reparations to get them back to the table for a peace deal.

Iran can obligate to Deez Nuts for any fucking cash.

[Truthhurts]

I've observed that many people in this thread are providing thoughtful responses to one another, creating an atmosphere of intelligent dialogue. However, there are two individuals who join in with nothing but moronic comments, dragging down the overall IQ of the discussion.

[Knows]

Among that 'scuttlebut' was a discussion of medicine, diet, supplements and geriatrics, and their combined effects.

There is also a lot of right-wing scuttlebutt starting. It's like they are now detaching themselves from him as he goes further off-beam.

And I'm still waiting for a post from you that makes me go 'there's a clever point' or 'that's an original idea'. This is a forum of debate, which requires reasoned counter argument.

At least DBCowboy is often funny, even though we disagree.

Trump’s Drug Use: A Chemically Compromised Commander-in-Chief

And there is some history of leaders of countries becoming trapped in substance abuse and intoxication. There is a question as to whether, for critical personnel, there should be some controls to limit judgement from being impaired, especially in escalatory situations.

I mean you have drunks, and jacuzzi planes, and nepotism, and misappropriation of funds, and pardons for cash, and obstruction of justice, and all sorts of objectively evidenced things going on that speak to patterns of behavior among the current administration that would not be approved by any previous administration, nor even in normal business management.

But Trump doesn't even drink. 

So all of you TDS sufferers are deluding yourselves.  Just making things up hoping something will happen to stop Trump.  It won't. You need to get your heads screwed back on straight. That's the 1st step.

[Astyanax]

There is some history of leaders of countries becoming trapped in substance abuse and intoxication.

The Effect of Drugs on Political Decisions 

(You will need a JSTOR account to access the document.)

British PM Anthony Eden, author of the Suez Crisis, was one notorious case.
 

Eden carried around a tin box containing analgesics (Shuckburgh, 1986). Shuckburgh states that they ranged from aspirin to morphia and, when necessary, an accompanying detective would give an injection. On his way to the United States in November 1952, the plane was held up at Shannon. Although Eden was "heavily drugged", pain recurred and the detective administered the injection.

Hitler was another.
 

Albert Speer, one of Hitler's closest advisers, [confirmed] from his knowledge of the dictator's behavior that it fits the manifestations of amphetamine toxicity. From the summer of 1942 Hitler's irritability increased, his language was unrestrained and reckless, and in fits of temper he would denounce the incompetence of his Army General Staff. He avoided reality, such as evidence of bomb damage, and developed "a peculiar state of petrification and rigidity; apathetic uncertainty, agonized indecisiveness, an apparent inability to deal with all important problems and obstinacy when faced with them."

And then there was JFK:
 

On the day of his inauguration as president in January 1961, Kennedy's face and neck were so swollen that his
normal shirt collar could not be fastened. Certainly the contemporary steroids available for Kennedy's
maintenance could cause mild disturbances of mood, with euphoria being more common than depression.

Before he became president, there were rumors that Kennedy had one attack of steroid psychosis. When pressed, the endocrinologist supposedly involved was discreetly non-committal...

Plenty more where those came from. In fact, I would say that most national leaders are on drugs from time to time, legally prescribed and administered to them by doctors who must balance concern for the health of their patients with the need to keep them functioning beyond normal capacity. Do you remember the negotiations at Stormont over the Northern Ireland peace deal? The discussions went on, more or less continuously, for days on end. I don’t think any of the principals could have stayed the course without drugs. 
 

I'm still waiting for a post from [Razor v66] that makes me go 'there's a clever point' or 'that's an original idea'. This is a forum of debate, which requires reasoned counter argument.

Good luck with that...

[Astyanax]

But Trump doesn't even drink. 

He doesn’t need to. Did you read the article Chr0naut posted?

Adderall, cocaine, benzodiazepines, Ambien, Provigil... all the feel-good hits of the summer.