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US-Iran War Mudpit Thread
(Yesterday, 08:37 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: We can’t do that. That’s why it’s so important to make good decisions before you wish you had a Time Machine.

We have plenty of recent history to go off of. The same history we all agreed on ATS was detrimental to our nation. Yet here we are, doing the same. Exact. Things.

Then join the anti-American crowd.

You're either for winning against Iran or Iran winning.

Choose.
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(Yesterday, 08:18 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: You are obviously an anti-American shill for Iran.

Sure you don't want a fatwa against us?

 Biggrin

I am a Caucasian Australian citizen, resident in New Zealand, and am a born-again Pentecostal Christian, not a follower of Islam.

I'm very sure I don't want 'a legal ruling on a point of Islamic law given by a qualified Islamic jurist in response to a question posed by a private individual, judge or government', against you or those that you believe are 'with you'.
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(Yesterday, 08:30 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: He also has one of the worst cases of Trumb Derangement Syndrome I've ever seen.

Every post is a cry fest, TRUMB TRUMB TRUMB TRUMB TRUMB.

Quite sad really.

Trumb called Democratic Party members "dumbocrats". Turnabout is fair play.
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(Yesterday, 08:37 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: We can’t do that. That’s why it’s so important to make good decisions before you wish you had a Time Machine.

We have plenty of recent history to go off of. The same history we all agreed on ATS was detrimental to our nation. Yet here we are, doing the same. Exact. Things.

My dad had a time machine. But he retired and has since passed. Besides. they aren't that useful any more, with the new technology.
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(Yesterday, 08:09 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I don't think nuking a country that we started a war with reflects the values I want about America.

Nor do I think that makes us any better than them. If we are saying it's horrible how they treat their women and citizens, I don't see how killing hundreds of thousands, or millions would be better.



It's a valid point, but you can't deny the effect of dropping a nuke all over a country would have on whatever leadership that country has, then you have the shutting down of any country that might open their mouth about it. 1

In the end it doesn't matter what you want or think, the fact is if the US really wanted to, this war is a non-issue after the whole of Iran is pounded into dust or glass.
(10 hours ago)guyfriday Wrote: It's a valid point, but you can't deny the effect of dropping a nuke all over a country would have on whatever leadership that country has, then you have the shutting down of any country that might open their mouth about it. 1

In the end it doesn't matter what you want or think, the fact is if the US really wanted to, this war is a non-issue after the whole of Iran is pounded into dust or glass.

This war isn’t existential to us, that’s why I don’t think we should take the gloves off.

The whole reason Trump got elected was because establishment politicians continually sold out to the interests of the elites which gave rise to a populist movement. Americans were tired of struggling in the richest country the world has ever seen while people profited off our mismanagement.

I fail to see how starting another war that again is not existential helps that position.

I think we should ask ourselves, what is a more realistic danger to most Americans… is it the existence of Iran in its current form, or is it the new reality first time homebuyers are average age of 40?

How do we continue if young people simply can’t afford to start a family in a system where the whole gamble is growth to pay off the debt and sustain our monetary system?

If this war was existential with let’s say China, I think that answer is easy, we fight to survive. If we’re talking about a war of what boils down to the ego of a super power trying to dictate our agenda in a region that doesn’t concern a majority of Americans…. I think it’s easy to say I’m far more concerned about other problem problems affecting our nation than Iran.
Not even funny but this is the guy in charge of this war, a war he claims to have won 20 plus times...
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(3 hours ago)Truthhurts Wrote: Not even funny but this is the guy in charge of this war, a war he claims to have won 20 plus times...
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I believe Trump is really not in control of the war, his Zionist elitist donors and the self-serving greedy sycophants that surround him keep him on the path of warmongering and aiding and abetting Zionist aggression against sovereign countries and genocide. He is bought and paid for as all the rest of them in that government. The majority of the American people (7 out of 10) are against this war, so if we want to point fingers to who and who isn't anti-American, it is obviously the American government as they are going against the true American ideology.
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(Yesterday, 08:43 AM)DennisR6 Wrote: Sir, Mr. guy Orby I like you and find your thought process to be somewhat endearing but I fear as though your selective memory of history has at times add to possible miscounts of actual history.
I am not going to dispute this matter because frankly there have been so many wars in just my lifetime it is hard to remember all of them seeing as most happen in countries I can not name.
But I do know that I along with everyone else not actively deployed in the theater that we have no idea what is going on or how much Iran has been or not been neutralized militarily. 
I along with you and others can easily tell the volume of projectiles has dramatically decreased. But again that is just what we are allowed to know.

I also want to point out that civs more specifically children have been I hope unintended targets, I would not use the word "brilliant" to describe the situation.
Operation Iraqi Freedom was "brilliant" compared to this shit sandwich.

A sh@t sandwich? Iran is being dismantled militarily and economically all for the cost of just over a dozen lives! You really do need to check out things like.........

The first day of the Battle of the Somme. On this single day, the British forces suffered 19,240 deaths

Iran is in a similar state or size to WW2 Germany. 19,240 deaths in one day. So far a handful have died against Iran. The SMO is going beautifully, almost beyond a dream for the West, plus Putin gets his oil selling at higher rates, so literally everybody is happy. 
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(Yesterday, 08:23 AM)andy06shake Wrote: LoL

Those are TPTB, at least that first one, Orby.

As to the whole affair being "Biblical."

That's what's called a self-fulfilling prophecy, so...

And the problem with those, well, they are manifold.


My TPTB and yours differ slightly Andy. They are not insurance companies.
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