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(Yesterday, 07:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Orby, history is full of people saying "their fate was sealed" right before events take a turn for the unexpected... Err? Iran is being taken apart militarily as we speak. That is their fate. Saddam, Assad, you name it got on the wrong side of history in the ME and they all lost out. You just don't get on the wrong side of TPTB and get away with it when they have access to the most powerful military the planet has yet seen and get away with it. I'm not saying Iran will fall, I don't believe that even suits Jerusalem or Washington. Yet on that date 7/10, Iran was guaranteed a severe punishment, at the very least. We will see where this takes us.
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(Yesterday, 07:30 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Iran and Trump both signed the Memorandum of Understanding, it shows Iran is willing to negotiate but your government did not implement the points in that agreement. So your government can't be trusted.
You make it sound like the US military, Iran's opponents and world economies are not suffering any consequences of this war of choice. Trump can only this this so far where the American people, American politicians, and what allies he has left, will be forced to take action.
Those powerful influences will put their interests before your governments' interests, that being Israel First agenda, if push comes to shove.
This video gives insight into how your government suppresses the truth in the Iran war.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX0U1yvayck&t=461s]
The going sentiment in that area has been reported as being "a bad deal is better than war" and expert negotiators say that "a bad deal for both sides means it is actually a fair deal".
I wouldn't even worry about it. Unless you are in Iran.
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(Yesterday, 07:39 AM)Orby Wrote: Err? Iran is being taken apart militarily as we speak. That is their fate. Saddam, Assad, you name it got on the wrong side of history in the ME and they all lost out. You just don't get on the wrong side of TPTB and get away with it when they have access to the most powerful military the planet has yet seen and get away with it. I'm not saying Iran will fall, I don't believe that even suits Jerusalem or Washington. Yet on that date 7/10, Iran was guaranteed a severe punishment, at the very least. We will see where this takes us.
The aggressive Zionist expansion and genocide into other sovereign countries is what is on the wrong side of International Law and are on the side of crimes against humanity.
Anyone aiding and abetting the Zionist government are contributors to war crimes and crimes against humanity.
It is being said this war will be to the last missile, so let's see if Russia and/or China can spare some missiles.
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Oh this is going to wind the Mullahs up, best get those flag factories churning out the US and israeli flags, they're gonna do some stomping their feet over this one. Totally brilliant btw Mr Trump      
"Donald Trump has approved an agreement with Saudi Arabia that could provide the kingdom with uranium enrichment capability for its civilian nuclear programme, according to news reports citing people familiar with the matter.Trump is expected to announce that he will ask Congress to approve the agreement with Saudi Arabia.
The timing of the announcement is controversial as the US’s war with Iran is being fought in part to prevent Tehran enriching uranium" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026...al-with-us
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(Yesterday, 07:44 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Anyone aiding and abetting the Zionist government are contributors to war crimes and crimes against humanity. Winners make up the rules
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(Yesterday, 07:48 AM)Orby Wrote: Winners make up the rules 
There will be no winners in this war.
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(Yesterday, 07:39 AM)Orby Wrote: Err? Iran is being taken apart militarily as we speak. That is their fate. Saddam, Assad, you name it got on the wrong side of history in the ME and they all lost out. You just don't get on the wrong side of TPTB and get away with it when they have access to the most powerful military the planet has yet seen and get away with it. I'm not saying Iran will fall, I don't believe that even suits Jerusalem or Washington. Yet on that date 7/10, Iran was guaranteed a severe punishment, at the very least. We will see where this takes us.
So annoy a superpower and the universe automatically hands out a defeat certificate.
Sadly, history doesn't work like that all the time, Orby.
Plenty of "guaranteed victories" throughout history have ended up as expensive messes.
If in doubt, see Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, arguably both Gulf wars...
Where it will take the world is into a recession.
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(Yesterday, 07:53 AM)andy06shake Wrote: So annoy a superpower and the universe automatically hands out a defeat certificate.
Sadly, history doesn't work like that all the time, Orby.
Plenty of "guaranteed victories" throughout history have ended up as expensive messes.
If in doubt, see Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, arguably both Gulf wars...
Where it will take the world is into a recession.
Stop it. Who said anything about victory? It's a game to put the Iranian MIC back a few decades. That is being achieved. You need look at your TV today and see that Iran is being dismantled militarily.
On the economics front.................... Recession. Lol. TPTB love that kind of thing. Fortress America is capable of going full on isolationist bar protecting a few of its allies as in now, the massive landmass of the USA plus enormous internal market means this is always on the table, when necessary.
I wouldn't worry about anything, just watch the TV and see what TPTB are doing right now, this moment, in re-shaping the ME post 7/10.
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(Yesterday, 07:50 AM)quintessentone Wrote: There will be no winners in this war.
I'd rather be sitting in a cafe right now in TLV or Washington than one in Iran
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(Yesterday, 07:59 AM)Orby Wrote: I wouldn't worry about anything, just watch the TV and see what TPTB are doing right now
Yeah, what could go wrong, bar everything, of course?
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