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(07-21-2026, 07:20 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Reading.
Apologies if that was awkward.
I know most of you ECL's don't read.
I'll be more sensitive next time.
And yet you did not comment on anything I said.
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(07-21-2026, 11:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Apparently diplomacy is for losers, and every problem is a nail if you've got enough missiles. 
Just keep in mind history's graveyard is full of people like "Don and Pete" who thought overwhelming force would permanently solve problems.
The moment 7/10 happened, Iran's fate was sealed. We can theorise this and that about why and where we are going. Yet the moment that Iranian sponsored tragedy happened, Iran's turn had come. It really is that simple. At some point it was going to happen anyway as long as the Mullahs persued nuke enrichment, but the moment 7/10 happened a decision was made in Israel that a reshaping of the ME was overdue. With 1/2 Israel's people living in the States, those being far wealthier and influential than in Israel proper, then it was Game On regarding the destruction of Iran.
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(Yesterday, 04:11 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Give it time, now that the Islamic Republic of Japan has entered the senility room... 
Scary and chaotic times, for sure. Financial analysts are predicting a depression, not a recession.
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(Yesterday, 06:37 AM)Orby Wrote: The moment 7/10 happened, Iran's fate was sealed. We can theorise this and that about why and where we are going. Yet the moment that Iranian sponsored tragedy happened, Iran's turn had come. It really is that simple. At some point it was going to happen anyway as long as the Mullahs persued nuke enrichment, but the moment 7/10 happened a decision was made in Israel that a reshaping of the ME was overdue. With 1/2 Israel's people living in the States, those being far wealthier and influential than in Israel proper, then it was Game On regarding the destruction of Iran.
"It really is that simple" is usually a warning that what follows won't be, Orby...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(Yesterday, 06:37 AM)Orby Wrote: The moment 7/10 happened, Iran's fate was sealed. We can theorise this and that about why and where we are going. Yet the moment that Iranian sponsored tragedy happened, Iran's turn had come. It really is that simple. At some point it was going to happen anyway as long as the Mullahs persued nuke enrichment, but the moment 7/10 happened a decision was made in Israel that a reshaping of the ME was overdue. With 1/2 Israel's people living in the States, those being far wealthier and influential than in Israel proper, then it was Game On regarding the destruction of Iran.
7 out of 10 Americans don't want this war so what the rich elitist Zionists living in the USA want should be of no concern to the government. What concerns the government, it appears, is self-enrichment and keeping their heads down while ignoring what the majority of the people want.
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(Yesterday, 07:00 AM)andy06shake Wrote: "It really is that simple" is usually a warning that what follows won't be, Orby...
Take it for what you will Andy. Iran's fate was sealed on 7/10.
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(Yesterday, 07:03 AM)quintessentone Wrote: 7 out of 10 Americans don't want this war so what the rich elitist Zionists living in the USA want should be of no concern to the government. What concerns the government, it appears, is self-enrichment and keeping their heads down while ignoring what the majority of the people want.
Yes sure, yet do the American people actually believe they will get what they vote for? They might get some of it and that's a tribute to President Trump. Yet Powerful influences exist around this planet of many types. There will be an agenda. Iran fell into that trap. They took the bait, now they take the consequences. Always going to happen.
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(Yesterday, 07:15 AM)Orby Wrote: Take it for what you will Andy. Iran's fate was sealed on 7/10.
Orby, history is full of people saying "their fate was sealed" right before events take a turn for the unexpected...
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Yesterday, 07:30 AM
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(Yesterday, 07:22 AM)Orby Wrote: Yes sure, yet do the American people actually believe they will get what they vote for? They might get some of it and that's a tribute to President Trump. Yet Powerful influences exist around this planet of many types. There will be an agenda. Iran fell into that trap. They took the bait, now they take the consequences. Always going to happen.
Iran and Trump both signed the Memorandum of Understanding, it shows Iran is willing to negotiate but your government did not implement the points in that agreement. So your government can't be trusted.
You make it sound like the US military, Iran's opponents and world economies are not suffering any consequences of this war of choice. Trump can only this this so far where the American people, American politicians, and what allies he has left, will be forced to take action.
Those powerful influences will put their interests before your governments' interests, that being Israel First agenda, if push comes to shove.
This video gives insight into how your government suppresses the truth in the Iran war.
The going sentiment in that area has been reported as being "a bad deal is better than war" and expert negotiators say that "a bad deal for both sides means it is actually a fair deal".
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Yesterday, 07:34 AM
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(Yesterday, 07:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Orby, history is full of people saying "their fate was sealed" right before events take a turn for the unexpected...
Exactly, now we see the Houthi taking action by shutting down Saudi Arabia's oil exports. Trump bribed Turkiye's President to hold back for now, but as I said before, if push comes to shove, every country will look out for their own interests. Will Iraq invade Kuwait? Chaos begats opportunity.
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