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UFO Research of NASA's Paul R. Hill.
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(08-22-2024, 05:43 PM)jaded Wrote: Daniel Litz (Dark Journalist) got into a X (twitter) dust up with Chris Mellon over David Grush's admission to DJ that Mellon was pulling his strings an it was shut up or consequences. This was about 6-7 months ago. 

Yes Virginia, the entire ufo disclosure ala' Mellon has been nothing but a dog & pony show from the git-go.


Ha was unaware of that mate (colour me surprised) and am sure John Brennan is heavily involved as well - thanks for those links. Beer

Looks like some of the reviews of Elizondo's new book have been rather scathing to say the least.

I don't think anyone has taken him (or TTSA) seriously for a very long time.






Quote:Elizondo takes us through his Pentagon career (after his stint as a torture specialist), starting from his recruitment to serve as a “remote viewer” using psychic powers to attack America’s enemies from afar. He tells us about his time at AAWSAP investigating the supernatural “mysteries” of Skinwalker Ranch and his clandestine effort to use government resources to hunt UFOs after AAWSAP ended.
He then relays in the last third of the book the familiar narrative of how he conspired with Chris Mellon to smuggle three alleged UFO videos out of the Pentagon and to dramatically resign from the Department of Defense so he could join Blink-182 rocker Tom DeLonge’s UFO infotainment company and launch it with a New York Times story giving a semi-fictionalized account of his UFO hunt. Elizondo gives himself a hero’s edit here, sidestepping any ethical questions or legal issues and instead depicting himself as the single most important UFO whistleblower in human history, 

Review of "Imminent" by Luis Elizondo




You would honestly think the US Military Intelligence agencies could do a better job.

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(08-23-2024, 05:54 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Ha was unaware of that mate (colour me surprised) and am sure John Brennan is heavily involved as well - thanks for those links. Beer

Looks like some of the reviews of Elizondo's new book have been rather scathing to say the least.

I don't think anyone has taken him (or TTSA) seriously for a very long time.










You would honestly think the US Military Intelligence agencies could do a better job.

Beer

Ya know, think it was the same interview but another tidbit that popped up was FOIA requests that garnered altered, previously classified documents. They were shown in the interview both originals and the altered fake ones sent out by our lovely govt agency. (forget which one) I wasn't even shocked. More surprised it hasn't happened more frequently. At least that we can prove anyways. 

The only thing I was concerned about was "poor John Greenwald Jr"!! He's spent all this time working like crazy an now he's gotta be just so "over it". Just a shame!!

As far as our IC's playbook. Been the same since 1947. I'm torn between disgust they haven't improved in 50+ years or happy their just so easy to read. 
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(08-24-2024, 11:05 PM)jaded Wrote: The only thing I was concerned about was "poor John Greenwald Jr"!!



Yes mate do have a lot of respect for JGJ and it really can't be easy dealing with sole Pentagon UAP spokesperson Susan Gough (especially as she has an extremely dodgy background in psy-ops).

Do remember John saying a while back that it's the top agency chiefs who should actually be being grilled under oath.. as well as the top brass from NORAD, NRO, NSA, DIA, DOE etc.

Also thought he picked some rather important candidates for the hot seat in this vid.






From 1:26:30









Realize you'll already be aware but this vid also explores the realities of the 'TTSA' background team and it brings up Puthoff being a main player in Operation Stargate (which is where the CIA went after MKUltra) - Dr Paul Rapp's rap sheet also has serious MKUltra connections.




From 11:00

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(08-24-2024, 11:05 PM)jaded Wrote: Ya know, think it was the same interview but another tidbit that popped up was FOIA requests that garnered altered, previously classified documents. They were shown in the interview both originals and the altered fake ones sent out by our lovely govt agency. (forget which one) I wasn't even shocked. More surprised it hasn't happened more frequently. At least that we can prove anyways. 

The only thing I was concerned about was "poor John Greenwald Jr"!! He's spent all this time working like crazy an now he's gotta be just so "over it". Just a shame!!

As far as our IC's playbook. Been the same since 1947. I'm torn between disgust they haven't improved in 50+ years or happy their just so easy to read. 
 Flaming

I communicated via email with John Greenwald Jr back in 2018-2019. I hope they don't block him out or threaten him as he seems legit to me as he's NOT on their payroll!
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Greenwald is completely legit & has been a staple source of accurate information with his FOIA'd documents for years. 

I'd seen his video on the release of Grush's medical records from the sherriff's dept.
A despicable act despite them being public record. 

While Elizondo imploded awhile back that doesn't preclude him hopping on the UFO conference circuit like so many other second raters. People still choose entertainment over substance.
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(08-25-2024, 12:15 PM)jaded Wrote: Greenwald is completely legit & has been a staple source of accurate information with his FOIA'd documents for years. 

I'd seen his video on the release of Grush's medical records from the sherriff's dept.
A despicable act despite them being public record. 

While Elizondo imploded awhile back that doesn't preclude him hopping on the UFO conference circuit like so many other second raters. People still choose entertainment over substance.

He may have been threatened and that's when they do something kooky to discredit themselves. That gives the FEDS an out saying he's crazy. It happens all the time. Author and speaker to CIA, DIA, DOD, SS, Richard Thieme wrote so in his book Mind Games. I own it and read it. He said you must present facts as fiction. That's why Dr Greer went WooWoo. Same for Robert Lazar. 

Seems to me that Jeremy Corbell and sidekick George Knapp are now on that USA paid for free lunchen wagon ,like Lou.
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(08-25-2024, 12:15 PM)jaded Wrote: People still choose entertainment over substance.



Yes indeedy mate - very sad state of affairs and when it comes to legitimate research suppose one could be forgiven for thinking there's an actual 'war' against transparency

Apparently they're now training FOIA officers 'how to keep more information from being disclosed under FOIA' and it's also come out that the 'National Archives Signed Deal with Air Force to Disguise Re-review of Open Files and Mislead Researchers on Reasons for Withdrawing Previously Open Records'.





Quote:Secret Agreement Reveals Covert Program to Hide Reclassification from Public

The National Archives and Records Administration secretly agreed to a covert effort, led by the Air Force, the CIA, and other still-hidden intelligence entities, to remove open-shelf archival records and reclassify them while disguising the results so that researchers would not complain, according to a previously secret Memorandum of Understanding..




Regarding Greenewald you've also got NCIS FOIA Officials actually celebrating when he's denied a document release and Pentagon UAP spokesperson Susan Gough actively thwarting UFO FOIA requests.

The CIA have also been very busy 'reclassifying' already released material and keep claiming they have 'lost' certain UFO files (just like the NSA and DIA) - it really all is one big comedy show.






Quote:CIA keep losing UFO files:




• April, 2019:

CIA Continues Trend of Losing UFO Related Documents in April of 2019



• March, 2020:

Another CIA UFO Document “Lost”



• Present:

Yet ANOTHER CIA UFO Document Goes Missing




Plenty of other examples out there and it really does make you wonder just what it is these people are trying so desperately to hide.

Beer
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#28

No one rules if no one obeys

“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
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#29
727Sky hola mate, don't know if you're still on board with trusting all these characters because you never post any commentary lol.

Would say that it's well worth looking into Grusch's background as he was an ex colleague of Elizondo (and most probably an ex employee of Eric Davis) - the rather dodgy SOL foundation also involves CIA contractor Nolan and Mellon.

Also remember writing a post about the dubious Nexstar Group who owns 'NewsNation' (but can't find it on the shitty ATS search function) - it was a similar dodgy set up to 'The Intercept' which is a known intel honeypot for genuine whistleblowers

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(08-25-2024, 01:07 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Yes indeedy mate - very sad state of affairs and when it comes to legitimate research suppose one could be forgiven for thinking there's an actual 'war' against transparency

Apparently they're now training FOIA officers 'how to keep more information from being disclosed under FOIA' and it's also come out that the 'National Archives Signed Deal with Air Force to Disguise Re-review of Open Files and Mislead Researchers on Reasons for Withdrawing Previously Open Records'.









Regarding Greenewald you've also got NCIS FOIA Officials actually celebrating when he's denied a document release and Pentagon UAP spokesperson Susan Gough actively thwarting UFO FOIA requests.

The CIA have also been very busy 'reclassifying' already released material and keep claiming they have 'lost' certain UFO files (just like the NSA and DIA) - it really all is one big comedy show.










Plenty of other examples out there and it really does make you wonder just what it is these people are trying so desperately to hide.

Beer

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