UFO Research of NASA's Paul R. Hill.

[Waterglass]

Yes mate do remember discussing Twentynine Palms with you a while back and not the first time the duo have promoted questionable material.

This author died way too young but always found this presentation a really insightful one when it comes to UFOs, intel agencies and media 'sock-puppets'.

Also, regarding the thread subject Paul Hill's research doesn't get much (if any) mainstream coverage but below is a relevant article on his work.


Could be nothing but there's also this curious message sent by Colonel Senn to NASA's Lieutenant General Crow:

"Also, regarding the thread subject Paul Hill's research doesn't get much (if any) mainstream coverage"

You are so observant as in your correct!  Same goes for the late Dr. Michael Heiser and many others. I also trust Robert Lazars [VIDEO's] disregard what he said as he may have intentionally soiled himself to stay alive. My reference on this would be Richard Thieme book "Mind Games".  

https://drmsh.com/

So after 100's of years of sightings, pictures and whatever else:

"Why are we still stuck at ZERO"...................... by Richard Thieme

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Couple of things.

Karl you were over @ Pegasus??!!! Squeee!!!
Perchance you remember Deuem's great threads on Orbs? Been scrubbed now but right on the money.

This'll be crazy-making but...
Dark Journalist has mega detailed information on the dirt and ongoing nonsense within the UFO topic. Historical and ALL the players. It's factual & under "Ufo Files" with some also in what's called the "COG" acronym for Continuity of Government. All on YT & some in his YT livestreams.

His interviews with Dr.Joseph Farrell (historical info) pretty necessary.
Info they both deep dive into is basically the other half of just how bad and more importantly the unknown players in the UFO cover-up machinery. 

Unfortunately Dr.Gary Nolan is on Team-Mellon. Broke my heart. At the very least he's pretty cozy with the IC.

Dolan is like a lot of people in ufology. One foot in quasi-disinformation, one foot in genuine info. No harm no foul, it's just his choice.

Knapp, Alexander, et al?
Maybe they started out with good intentions. Absolutely useless now. Just riding the wave of their past achievements. (no disrespect to Alexanders military service)

WG I pm'd you ages ago over on ats. 
Just tossed this'all in cause it's relevant. Will be going thru all the links you guys dropped!
Thanks!!!

[Karl12]

Dark Journalist has mega detailed information on the dirt and ongoing nonsense within the UFO topic. Historical and ALL the players. It's factual & under "Ufo Files" with some also in what's called the "COG" acronym for Continuity of Government.

His interviews with Dr.Joseph Farrell (historical info) pretty necessary.

Info they both deep dive into is basically the other half of just how bad and more importantly the unknown players in the UFO cover-up machinery. 

Ha yes very well said mate and looks like we research very similar stuff - always wise to keep an eye on the 'money and control' aspects (especially when dealing with institutions obsessed with both) and have looked at some of the research of both Liszt and Farrell involving COG - some important points to consider in this article I reckon:

What we've had, however, is nothing but a few pictures and a succession of stories, and that means that the latest push is nothing but just another UFO conference, to which everyone has been invited and forced to listen to a parade of people telling stories about UFOs and aliens.

So the question is why?

The answers I'm toying with, at least at this moment, boil down to the following possibilities, one of which was recently articulated by Dark Journalist on a recent podcast of his, and with which I largely agree. I intend to flesh out the idea a bit more here. All of these possibilities are based on one overriding contemporary reality: the government of the USSA is in trouble, deep trouble, and trust in its institutions, or for that matter, the wider cultural institutions, is at an all time low. It is no accident, therefore, that this now seems to be the time that the powerful cognoscenti of the deep state have chosen to push the UFO theater. They need something to (1) distract the public, (2) restore trust (3) expand their power, possibly through the invocation of a national emergency, and emergency powers ala the Continuity Of Government (COG) scenario, ala Dark Journalist's recent podcast, and finally, they need (4) a narrative to create a new unified global cultural, governmental, and financial matrix.


THAT UFO NARRATIVE PUSH: COG, MONEY, MARKETING, & OTHER STUFF

Also thought this cartoon regarding misdirection, missing trillions and Lockheed 'Martian' was a relevant one (don't suppose the Rockefeller's backstage role in the subject can be underestimated too much either).














Regarding the recent UFO threat narrative 'theatre' don't know if Grusch is the new Elizondo 2.0 but apparently there was a curious meeting very early last year with DCI Avril Haines, the CIA/NSA Directors and NASIC which involved the David Grusch narrative (DJ mentions in in one of his vids but can't remember which).

Also a relevant observation from DJ here on Elizondo:

• "So let's go over it - biographical movies; your own TV series on the History Channel for two years; a big book deal and all the rest.. that's not how whistleblowers are treated."

Journalist Daniel Liszt

7:30

Mentioned this to Waterglass over on another thread but, if anything, all these UAP Hearing shenanigans have actually achieved (objectively speaking) is to make UFO information far more difficult to access by the general public.

Almost as if that was one of their primary objectives in the first place.

[Waterglass]

Ha yes very well said mate and looks like we research very similar stuff - always wise to keep an eye on the 'money and control' aspects (especially when dealing with institutions obsessed with both) and have looked at some of the research of both Liszt and Farrell involving COG - some important points to consider in this article I reckon:












Also thought this cartoon regarding misdirection, missing trillions and Lockheed 'Martian' was a relevant one (don't suppose the Rockefeller's backstage role in the subject can be underestimated too much either).







[Image: https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/i...c63ea6.jpg]






Regarding the recent UFO threat narrative 'theatre' don't know if Grusch is the new Elizondo 2.0 but apparently there was a curious meeting very early last year with DCI Avril Haines, the CIA/NSA Directors and NASIC which involved the David Grusch narrative (DJ mentions in in one of his vids but can't remember which).

Also a relevant observation from DJ here on Elizondo:












Mentioned this to Waterglass over on another thread but, if anything, all these UAP Hearing shenanigans have actually achieved (objectively speaking) is to make UFO information far more difficult to access by the general public.

Almost as if that was one of their primary objectives in the first place.

Well after watching the John Greenewald Jr. video all I can say is nutz. I trust John and have emailed him in the past. It lends me to believe that the others [Dolan, Knapp and Palsulka] who blew me off did so because they are part of it as described above. Grusch was reading from a government provided script says my FED contact [POC]

So where does that leave us? 

I have seen UFO's. In my opinion some are ours and some are ET. 

What's terrifying is whether they can intervene into our dreams ~ Interdimensional UFO Hypothesis ~ Allen Hynek & Jacques's Vallee

That's disconcerning as even Diana Walsh Palsuka has said her interviews with UFO experts are saying is

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Absolutely they can get into your dreams.

The fun part is no magic or alien tech to do it. Frequency' s about 3.5 - 7.5 Hz induce Theta waves in the human brain. In Theta state you're very open to suggestions. You're "free-will" just pulled a "runner". heheheh

Ever had a "action movie" dream? All emergencies all the time? 
One that repeats every night for a week or so? 

 During those action-dream series ever wake up singing?
That'd be your subconscious screaming at you something most unkosher is going on. 

Whether or not the low htz is due to their propulsion system inadvertently or something else's that's not clear to us yet.

[midicon]

Absolutely they can get into your dreams.

The fun part is no magic or alien tech to do it. Frequency' s about 3.5 - 7.5 Hz induce Theta waves in the human brain. In Theta state you're very open to suggestions. You're "free-will" just pulled a "runner". heheheh

Ever had a "action movie" dream? All emergencies all the time? 
One that repeats every night for a week or so? 

 During those action-dream series ever wake up singing?
That'd be your subconscious screaming at you something most unkosher is going on. 

Whether or not the low htz is due to their propulsion system inadvertently or something else's that's not clear to us yet.

Deary me, should have kept all those teenage dream diaries as back up UFO evidence. This topic just gets sillier and sillier.
You said it yourself, no magic or alien tech required.  Anything that inspires us or evokes our imagination can appear in dreams. Anything at all, even aliens and UFOs.

[Karl12]

Well after watching the John Greenewald Jr. video all I can say is nutz.

Doesn't really inspire much confidence in their transparency mate and guess the DOD have now got things sewn up pretty good when it comes to AARO content and that B7 exemption.

Don't know if you read it but this article also covers AARO's Sean Kirkpatrick lying to everyone about the largest scientific study ever conducted on UFOs (just like the Secretary of the Air Force did).

Sticking with the NASA theme (and their dodgy paperclip roots) here are some relevant quotes from Nazi scientists

• "They are flying by means of artificial fields of gravity.. They produce high-tension electric charges in order to push the air out of their paths, so it does not start glowing, and strong magnetic fields to influence the ionized air at higher altitudes. First, this would explain their luminosity.. Secondly, it would explain the noiselessness of UFO flight.. Finally, this assumption also explains the strong electrical and magnetic effects sometimes, though not always, observed in the vicinity of UFOs." 

Professor Hermann Oberth, German rocket expert considered one of the three fathers of the space age. Mentor to Dr. Werner von Braun from 1955 at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency and later NASA - 'Dr. Hermann Oberth discusses UFOs', Fate Magazine, May, 1962.

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• "There are about 50 observations known from the time before World War II. Then the number of appearances increased; the Allies thought it was a German secret weapon, and the Germans thought it was one of the Allies. Since 1947, the reports of eyewitnesses increased considerably. It is said by the English Air Marshall Lord Dowding that there have been 10,000 (reports) by 1953."

German Rocket Scientist Hermann Oberth Writing in Mitteilungen Der Gesellschaft Fur Interplanetarik
1961.

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• "I'm convinced saucers have an out-of-world basis."

Dr. Walther Riedel, German rocket scientist at Peenemunde, March 3rd, 1952 - Life Magazine, April 7th, 1952 issue.

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Quotes - Scientists

[Waterglass]

Doesn't really inspire much confidence in their transparency mate and guess the DOD have now got things sewn up pretty good when it comes to AARO content and that B7 exemption.

Don't know if you read it but this article also covers AARO's Sean Kirkpatrick lying to everyone about the largest scientific study ever conducted on UFOs (just like the Secretary of the Air Force did).

Sticking with the NASA theme (and their dodgy paperclip roots) here are some relevant quotes from Nazi scientists

I believe that ET exists and have been here possibly for 1000's of years. I also think that USA or other has reverse engineered ET technology and has a fleet going back to 1989. Robert Lazar filmed one in the desert near AREA 51 with his bud John Lear in 1989. I saw a craft do similar same on MAY 4, 2018. It has consumed me ever since. Crop Circles? They just happen to pop up like mushrooms and we blow it off to some hippies on walk boards.  OK, but many are so intricate its impossible that they were man made. Cattle mutilations? The FBI looked into it several decades ago and wrote it off as buzzards. OK, that works but the surgical cuts are too extreme even for a satanic cult or other. IMO its ET. 

The we have the abductions and Missing 411. I trust what this FBI agent wrote:

Missing 411: The U.F.O. Connection (2022)
John DeSouza: Self - Ret. FBI Special Agent

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22080556/

[Karl12]

I believe that ET exists..

Don't know about origin mate but UFOs are certainly an extremely serious mystery which governments take extremely seriously.

Elizondo has recently been on the corporate media circuit intimating they may be 'temporal' - also remember this (scripted?) line being dropped at the UAP hearing fiasco.

• "UFOs could be us from the future."

Wisconsin Republican Representative Mike Gallagher.

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Would certainly explain all the many different UFO shapes and occupant flavours lol.

In reality reckon 'I don't know' is the only honest answer (for me) and with all these controlled opposition counter intelligence goons running around on Mockingbird media it's all starting to look a bit dodgy.

The Gov could easily release certain information if it wanted to (it just doesn't) - here's NASA's John Schuessler on surveillance capabilities:

• "There is no doubt in my mind that today if not many times over the past fifty years we have had the surveillance capabilities to completely monitor the activities of certain UFO flights and know exactly when they’re going, where they’re going, how they’re going, where they appear form and leave to, all the characteristics about them - we have radar based devices that will not only show the distance, direction and azimuth of an object and all that but will also how shape. We have devices the army has developed for tracking projectiles - they check the acoustic wave and when something crosses over they can immediately track that data and go back to the source.. I don’t believe any of these things fly over our country today without being known and if somebody wanted the UFO mystery to completely disappear they could in five minutes release enough data to show exactly what’s going on and is not going on."

John F. Schuessler, Executive Director of MUFON (Ret.)

Before their recent (pretty unimpressive) efforts the US. Government had never released any gun camera UFO footage either (despite there being lots of reported incidents and confiscations).

They could easily release that archive (probably housed at the CIA's National Photographic Interpretation Centre) but it simply will not do so.

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Normally I don't get into the morass of "history of the Mystery Schools" & the deep states involvement butt deep in them AND the UFO subject.  But WHOOPS! I went there. 

Daniel Litz (Dark Journalist) got into a X (twitter) dust up with Chris Mellon over David Grush's admission to DJ that Mellon was pulling his strings an it was shut up or consequences. This was about 6-7 months ago. 

Yes Virginia, the entire ufo disclosure ala' Mellon has been nothing but a dog & pony show from the git-go. Not to be discouraged tho!! We'll still get our info in weird ways from people who can squeak it out under the censor's radars. 

I'll be honest, I'm on day 3 of still watching this entire video. You know, between real life happening an all. But it's worth every minute I eaked out for it! Don't let the title put you off!! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwjDUduCKFM&t=33s

Next up is something I KNOW got missed. I'd followed Sharon Cornet's work on BF around El Paso years ago. Her ex-husband is Dr. Bruce Cornet who did extensive work on the Pine Bush NY ufo flap. Just found it recently. For the time, he did some ground breaking research on the fields generated an mapping the geology ect...
Tip - I'd skip the first 10min or so. (hope this is the right one!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WRnEwyTE8U