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(06-26-2025, 02:42 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: I made this gif of before and after the b2 strike doesn't prove much anything just looks neat.
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/b2-damage.gif]
I like it, it goes with the Avatar.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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One thing I found curious is the apparent lack of subsidence notable at the surface of the installation.
Those bunker busters supposedly pass through up to 200FT of earth (give or take depending on soil composition, obstructions, and angle of entry/deflection), then detonate a 5,000lb explosive to create a cavity, a "blast bubble", which then collapses.
Where are the signs that the tunnels buried under that mountain have collapsed?
Then again, if the mountain was more like solid rock, can we be sure that each MOP actually sliced through 200FT every time?
The NORAD base buried under Cheyenne Mountain is what, 1000FT under solid granite, and is designed to withstand a direct hit from a nuclear weapon....
Or just 5 hits from MOP's.
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(06-26-2025, 02:42 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: You have bias. It's 'bleeding obvious'.
So I'm not going to take your word for it.
Typos every so often are not dementia.
The guy has a personality that is a stink'n mess.
But that doesn't make it dementia.
I made it plain that I don't like him. You often say the same. So, surely we are equally biased?
It's not just typos.
On topic, my concern is whether bombing Iran and making such decisions whilst ignoring the likes of Tulsi Gabbard, tweeting foreign policy in capitals, ranting incoherently etc, is of some legitimate concern to the rest of the World.
That's my opinion and I am entitled to have it.
On topic.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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06-26-2025, 03:09 PM
This post was last modified: 06-26-2025, 03:11 PM by putnam6. 
In other news, the last 15 days have obliterated Trump's earlier ratings
by 1%
Daily Presidential Tracking PollThursday, June 26, 2025
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove.
The latest figures include 34% who Strongly Approve of the job Trump is doing and 40% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of- 6. ( see trends)
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(06-26-2025, 03:05 PM)Mantiss2021 Wrote: One thing I found curious is the apparent lack of subsidence notable at the surface of the installation.
Those bunker busters supposedly pass through up to 200FT of earth (give or take depending on soil composition, obstructions, and angle of entry/deflection), then detonate a 5,000lb explosive to create a cavity, a "blast bubble", which then collapses.
Where are the signs that the tunnels buried under that mountain have collapsed?
Then again, if the mountain was more like solid rock, can we be sure that each MOP actually sliced through 200FT every time?
The NORAD base buried under Cheyenne Mountain is what, 1000FT under solid granite, and is designed to withstand a direct hit from a nuclear weapon....
Or just 5 hits from MOP's. I think Cheyenne Mountain is buried beneath roughly 2,000ft of granite, not just 1,000ft.
And i thought the GBU‑57 MOP Massive Ordnance Penetrator was a 30,000 lb bomb?
Edit: you're correct " Explosive payload: ~5,300 lb"
I would love to have gone on a tour of that place.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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06-26-2025, 03:15 PM
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(06-26-2025, 03:03 PM)andy06shake Wrote: I like it, it goes with the Avatar. 
Trump dropped 10 Foley bombs....
but all they hit was a van down by the river....
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
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(06-26-2025, 03:15 PM)putnam6 Wrote: [Image: https://media0.giphy.com/media/MfUYQKRmIVZzq/giphy.gif]
Trump dropped 10 Foley bombs....
but all they hit was a van down by the river....
There has got to be a country and western song in there somewhere.
""Out in Iran’s desert, where the silence cuts so deep,
They hid their darkest secrets, in tunnels where shadows creep.
But midnight skies were broken by a whisper loud and clear,
Fourteen bombs fell heavy, bringing danger loud and near.""
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-26-2025, 03:09 PM)putnam6 Wrote: In other news, the last 15 days have obliterated Trump's earlier ratings
by 1%
Daily Presidential Tracking PollThursday, June 26, 2025
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove.
The latest figures include 34% who Strongly Approve of the job Trump is doing and 40% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of- 6. (see trends)
[Image: https://media0.giphy.com/media/IccqZgseI.../giphy.gif]
What's with you posting one cherry picked poll?
Others disagree:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ap...ls-2089788
The latest Ipsos/Reuters and American Research Group polls show Trump's net approval rating at record lows for his second term.
In the Ipsos/Reuters poll, conducted between June 21-23 among 1,139 registered voters, Trump's net approval rating stood at -16 points, with 41 percent approving and 57 percent disapproving. That is down from a previous low of net approval of -12 points in last week's poll. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
No one knows how effective this bombing strike was. I'm leaning to it having done the job and hope we aren't proved wrong if a dirty bomb is used by Iran, or, God forbid, a real nuke.
I just distrust politicians of all colours.
I remember the WMD BS.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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06-26-2025, 03:30 PM
This post was last modified: 06-26-2025, 03:42 PM by putnam6. 
(06-26-2025, 03:22 PM)andy06shake Wrote: There has got to be a country and western song in there somewhere. 
""Out in Iran’s desert, where the silence cuts so deep,
They hid their darkest secrets, in tunnels where shadows creep.
But midnight skies were broken by a whisper loud and clear,
Fourteen bombs fell heavy, bringing danger loud and near.""
Run it through AI and have it sung as Marty Robbins....
LOL Grok did not disappoint
Quote:"Big Bomber on His Hip"
(To the tune of "Big Iron" by Marty Robbins)
(Verse 1)
To the town of old Tehran came a stranger one fine day,
Hardly spoke to folks around him, didn’t have too much to say.
No one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slip,
For the stranger there among them had a big bomber on his hip,
Big bomber on his hip.
(Verse 2)
It was early in the mornin’ when he rode into the town,
Zagros mountains cast their shadows, sun was burnin’ on the ground.
Folks were whisperin’ in Tehran ‘bout the strikes that shook the land,
Fordow’s bunker lay in ruins by the stranger’s mighty hand,
Stranger’s mighty hand.
(Chorus)
Big bomber on his hip,
Bunker buster, built to rip,
Carved a scar through the desert’s grip,
The stranger called Trump with the big bomber on his hip.
(Verse 3)
In the city they call Tehran, where the minarets touch the sky,
People hid in fear and wonder as the B-2s roared on by.
Nuclear plants in Natanz crumbled, Isfahan felt the flame,
And the stranger, name of Trump, bore the weight of all the blame,
Weight of all the blame.
(Verse 4)
There was talk of Fordow’s secrets, buried deep beneath the stone,
Centrifuges that spun in silence, now a wasteland, cold and lone.
Iran’s leaders swore defiance, said their sites were still alive,
But the stranger’s bombs had spoken, and the truth was hard to hide,
Truth was hard to hide.
(Chorus)
Big bomber on his hip,
Bunker buster, built to rip,
Carved a scar through the desert’s grip,
The stranger called Trump with the big bomber on his hip.
(Bridge)
Now the desert wind is wailin’, through the rubble and the dust,
Tehran’s streets are filled with echoes of a nation’s broken trust.
The stranger stood in silence, with his mission cold and clear,
But the ghosts of Fordow whispered, “Peace will never find you here,”
Never find you here.
(Verse 5)
When the smoke cleared out in Qom, where Fordow’s tunnels lay,
The stranger turned his horse to leave, no reason left to stay.
Some called him a hero, some a devil in disguise,
But the fire in his wake still burned in the desert’s mournful eyes,
Desert’s mournful eyes.
(Chorus)
Big bomber on his hip,
Bunker buster, built to rip,
Carved a scar through the desert’s grip,
The stranger called Trump with the big bomber on his hip.
(Outro)
Now the legend lingers on, through the sands and Tehran’s streets,
Of the stranger with the big bomb, where the war and desert meet.
Fordow’s gone, the plants are silent, just a tale the winds let slip,
‘Bout the stranger called Trump with the big bomber on his hip,
Big bomber on his hip.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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