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(06-25-2025, 05:40 AM)Truthhurts Wrote: You're kidding, right?  Lol

Studies and fact-checking organisations that have analyzed Donald Trump's public statements extensively.

Which concluded he came away with more than 30,000 false or misleading claims.

And that was during his last term as POTUS. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...our-years/
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-25-2025, 05:47 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Who’s the most trust worthy democrats at this point?  The ones that voted down another Trump impeachment?

But they are not in power so......................

And fyi I'm not a Democrat or a Republican.

It's not as simple as right vs left.

But that's the way it's made to look, for very obvious reasons.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-25-2025, 05:48 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Studies and fact-checking organisations that have analyzed Donald Trump's public statements extensively.

Which concluded he came away with more than 30,000 false or misleading claims.

And that was during his last term as POTUS. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...our-years/
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

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Anyway.    Giving Iran billions to invest in proxy wars and disrupt shipping?  Or Trump giving Iran a few bombs?
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(06-25-2025, 05:53 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: **Mod. edit - Snipped comments**

Anyway.    Giving Iran billions to invest in proxy wars and disrupt shipping?  Or Trump giving Iran a few bombs?
 
By the looks of it, a few bombs that failed to do as Trump claimed.

And a few bombs to change the narrative back home.

How are those tariffs working out again?

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"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
I mean, Trump keeps on screaming about total obliteration despite what the leaked reports and satellite images indicate. 

Again, he tries to talk things into reality.

And they goes into a cream puff when the facts come back to bite him on the @rse.

Pathetic.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/polit...lear-sites
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...76218.html
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-25-2025, 01:23 AM)Ignorant Wrote: The Bloomberg quote you're talking about which supposedly contains the sour grapes:

Your words were:

My question was, can you clarify where Bloomberg states that Trump is responsible for Iran's friends standing down? In fact they don't state this at all. Their post doesn't mention Trump, not even indirectly. Their point is that Iran's efforts to build the "axis of resistance" have proven fruitless, that their friends are not really their friends. Since this is not making any statement about Trump, and you seem to think it is, I asked you to clarify why you think that. You then refer me back to your initial post as if that explains it. It doesn't.

You also said:

This one man being Trump, no doubt. Since it's unclear how this is in any way Trump's doing, I also asked you to clarify why you're crediting him. This too remains unanswered.

Im sorry if the evidence I pulled from Grok was insufficient for you to grasp what I interpret as a tone or attitude change in Bloomberg headlines.

Bloomberg was a huge contributor to the DNC's Election campaign in 2016 and 2020; they rarely missed any chance to poke at OMB.  Just the lack of naming Trump in a headline where he is a fairly major player suggests a softening of its attitude, or perhaps they just realize their subscriptions were down

https://x.com/i/grok/share/O2BEKvJKi8KwecENTxh1HNoxV
 
Quote:Michael Bloomberg has been frequently critical of President Donald Trump, particularly during the 2016 and 2020 election cycles. As a former New York City mayor and a Democratic presidential candidate in 2020, Bloomberg openly opposed Trump, focusing his campaign heavily on defeating him. He spent significant personal funds—over $1 billion by some estimates—on ads and efforts to oust Trump, emphasizing Trump's leadership as incompetent and divisive. For instance, Bloomberg called Trump a “dangerous demagogue” during a 2016 Democratic National Convention speech and labeled him a “carnival barking clown” in 2020, while accusing him of mismanaging the economy and the COVID-19 response. 
Bloomberg News, his media company, has also faced accusations of bias against Trump. The Trump campaign banned Bloomberg News reporters from events in 2019 after the outlet announced it would not investigate Bloomberg or other Democratic candidates but would continue covering Trump critically. Posts on X have echoed this sentiment, with users claiming Bloomberg News adopted a negative tone toward Trump, especially after the 2024 election. However, Bloomberg News maintains it has a reputation for fairness, and its editor-in-chief stated there was no bias, though the policy of not investigating Bloomberg himself drew scrutiny.
On the other side, Trump has reciprocated the hostility, mocking Bloomberg’s height, calling him “Mini Mike,” and dismissing his business credentials, suggesting their rivalry is personal as well as political. Some argue Bloomberg’s criticism stems from ideological differences and personal animosity, given their shared history as New York billionaires who once interacted socially. Others note Bloomberg’s critiques align with broader Democratic narratives, focusing on Trump’s policies like trade tariffs or the Paris climate accord withdrawal.
While Bloomberg’s criticisms are well-documented, some sources suggest his media outlet’s coverage of Trump reflects standard journalistic scrutiny of a sitting president rather than a personal vendetta. The lack of investigative reporting on Bloomberg himself during his campaign muddies this claim, though, and fuels perceptions of bias. The truth likely lies in a mix of genuine policy disagreements, personal rivalry, and strategic political positioning.

This, along with other seemingly negative headlines in regards to OMB in other media, the Bloomberg stood out to me. 
 
But you are probably correct, upon further reflection and research, I concur Trump had nothing at all to do with Iran's "friends" abandoning them before, during the 12 + days of the conflict, I doubt it's even been discussed...


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(06-25-2025, 08:13 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Im sorry if the evidence I pulled from Grok was insufficient for you to grasp what I interpret as a tone or attitude change in Bloomberg headlines.

Bloomberg was a huge contributor to the DNC's Election campaign in 2016 and 2020; they rarely missed any chance to poke at OMB.  Just the lack of naming Trump in a headline where he is a fairly major player suggests a softening of its attitude, or perhaps they just realize their subscriptions were down

They weren't talking about Trump, so this tone change is imagined. You say he's a major player in Iran's friends leaving it out to dry, well, citation needed. You still haven't substantiated that claim. I don't think he's a major player there at all. Trump or no Trump, Iran's "friends" were never really its friends, more like rivals. The thought that they would ever stick their necks out and quickly come to Iran's aid in an escalating conflict against Israel is laughable. If we can accuse Bloomberg of anything, it's stating the obvious.
As with much of MSM, it all depends on which source you want to believe...LOL and when. 


https://abcnews.go.com/International/wir...-123186482
Quote: 
Iran spokesperson says its nuclear installations 'badly damaged' by US strikes.Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesperson says its nuclear installations 'badly damaged' by American strikes.

ByThe Associated Press
June 25, 2025, 7:14 AM

International headlines from ABC NewsCatch up on the developing stories from around the globe making headlines.DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesperson says its nuclear installations 'badly damaged' by American strikes.
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(06-25-2025, 08:32 AM)Ignorant Wrote: They weren't talking about Trump, so this tone change is imagined. You say he's a major player in Iran's friends leaving it out to dry, well, citation needed. You still haven't substantiated that claim. I don't think he's a major player there at all. Trump or no Trump, Iran's "friends" were never really its friends, more like rivals. The thought that they would ever stick their necks out and quickly come to Iran's aid in an escalating conflict against Israel is laughable. If we can accuse Bloomberg of anything, it's stating the obvious.

Here's my ending quote: it's not ambiguous at all. I conceded your point 
Quote:you are probably correct, upon further reflection and research, I concur Trump had nothing at all to do with Iran's "friends" abandoning them before, during the 12 + days of the conflict, I doubt it's even been discussed...

Even highlighted where I may have, after constantly seeing all the other negative headlines, perhaps I was confused, where the Bloomberg headline was implying Trump as well.

I am flattered that my posts are read and dissected, and commented on.

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