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(06-22-2025, 11:00 AM)matafuchyou Wrote: To refresh memories. Barack Obama droned Anwar al-Awlaki, a US citizen. He also killed his 16 year old son, a US Citizen. He also sent them billions of dollars.
Enough with the hypocrisy and fake outrage.
Be vigilant.
Obama was a horrible president.
I don't see how using examples of other bad presidents makes the situation look better.
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06-22-2025, 11:04 AM
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(06-22-2025, 10:30 AM)putnam6 Wrote: .........How Many Presidents Have Circumvented the War Powers Act?
Since the WPR’s passage in 1973, multiple presidents have taken military actions that critics argue circumvented its requirements or intent by acting unilaterally without specific congressional authorization. Below is a list of presidents since 1973 and notable instances where their actions were alleged to violate or skirt the WPR:Total Count:- Presidents: At least 8 (Nixon, Ford, Reagan, H.W. Bush, Clinton, Obama, Trump, Biden) have been credibly accused of circumventing the WPR, with Ford’s case being the most debatable.
- Instances: Approximately 15–18 clear instances across these administrations, with additional debatable cases (e.g., Ford’s Mayaguez, Bush’s Desert Shield). The exact number depends on how strictly one defines “circumvention,” as some actions complied with notification requirements but ignored the WPR’s broader intent for congressional authorization.
Notes:- No president has faced successful legal action for WPR violations, as courts typically deem these disputes non-justiciable, leaving resolution to the political branches.
- The 2001 and 2002 AUMFs have been criticized for giving presidents a “blank check” to conduct military operations far beyond their original scope, enabling actions that technically comply with the WPR but undermine its purpose.
- Posts on X reflect sentiment that Trump’s actions are consistent with predecessors like Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama, suggesting the WPR’s flexibility allows such actions. However, these posts are not authoritative and reflect ongoing public debate rather than legal consensus.
Conclusion
Trump arguably circumvented the War Powers Resolution in at least three instances (2017 Syria, 2020 Soleimani, 2025 Iran) by relying on broad executive authority or existing AUMFs without seeking new congressional approval, though his administration complied with notification requirements. Since 1973, at least eight presidents have taken actions alleged to circumvent the WPR, with 15–18 clear instances across their administrations. The WPR’s effectiveness remains limited due to vague definitions of “hostilities,” judicial reluctance to intervene, and Congress’s hesitance to assert its authority,
allowing presidents to exploit legal ambiguities.
That's all true my friend but Trump made a big thing to his voters out of removing America from the middle east and bragged about 'draining the swamp' but from the outside looking in, he played the America voters and is even worse than those listed because he bragged that he would be different and pledged "I'm gonna stop wars"
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(06-22-2025, 11:00 AM)matafuchyou Wrote: No leaks.
The POTUS has this right and if it occurs has to notify Congress. This is not a declaration of war.
Sites Destroyed.
Ramp up US Oil Production. I am sure the Sauds will help also.
No US casualties. In fact, Iran did not even know or react.
To refresh memories. Barack Obama droned Anwar al-Awlaki, a US citizen. He also killed his 16 year old son, a US Citizen. He also sent them billions of dollars.
Enough with the hypocrisy and fake outrage.
Be vigilant.
I think it's actually called "legitimate grounds for concern"?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
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(06-22-2025, 10:53 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Members of congress would have leaked intel to Iran
Like Joe Biden after drinking a beer
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But change is
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(06-22-2025, 11:00 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: What would they have leaked? That we were going to strike them?
Weren't we signaling that for the past week, as well as moving B2's and other assets into position?
Not like it was much of a secret.
Apparently it was to Iran last night.
lol
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(06-22-2025, 11:09 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Like Hegseth after drinking 20 beers
Fixed that for you.
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(06-22-2025, 11:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Fixed that for you.
Beat me to it!
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(06-22-2025, 11:13 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Beat me to it!
We can't let that one pass by unaddressed. lol
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(06-22-2025, 10:53 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Members of congress would have leaked intel to Iran
BIGTIME! The sabotage would have been disastrous on purpose!!
Never forget The Robert Malley Spy Rings!!
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