Trump says he bombed Iran

[andy06shake]

Why not just nuke the whole Middle East and Russia and China as well? Surely it’s time for preemptive strikes against all these places? This is a fight against good and evil, it’s time the angels all living in America wiped out all the demons living in other places. 

ra ra ra America, going to save the mother fucking day! Fuck yeah! America…

The obvious answer being that Russia and China will return the favor, and we would need to contend with the damage, loss of life, and fallout/contamination produced on a global scale.

Even if we managed to decapitate their ability to hit back(which we won't). 

Full-scale nuclear war is a mug's game, and that's all she wrote, really.

[CriticalStinker]

So Iran was refining uranium for thier electrical grid? When did Iraq do that? 

This is comparing baffled to orange....

Dubya didn't do Iraq or Afghanistan, silly rabbit

Cheney and the RINOS did, and they made bank in doing so

It's easy to see that in hindsight with Iraq. But I remember the lead up. They certainly told us there was a nuclear program.

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"

Now, I don't doubt that there is a nuclear program in Iran, but that doesn't mean I think any president should have the power to drag us into a war without congress voting on it. There are a few countries that shouldn't have nukes but do. Should we just go bomb Pakistan and North Korea because we don't feel safe?

[Kurokage]

Seems to me it risks igniting a full-scale regional war.

Obviously Iran will retaliate, most likely with missile strikes on U.S. allies like Israel and Saudi Arabia, which will trigger further escalation.

If Iran blocks the Strait of Hormuz, ​​it is not going to be good for the global oil markets.

Bombing them will simply radicalise the next generation and strengthen anti-U.S. sentiment.

And that's any sort of diplomatic solution to the nuclear concerns right out the window and shattered.

Never mind the fact that this attack is apt to unite Iranians behind the hardline regime, which at the end of the day reduces chances of reform.

The long-term fallout from this attack could far outweigh any short-term strategic gains imho.

And just to add i have no love lost for the Iranians, and the regime they have in place, but this seems to be merely adding fuel to the fire.

Similar opinion here, the Iranian regime was slowly being brought down by its own younger generations who wanted a more open and free society. This attack plays right into the hardliners hands, making the west out to be the evil war mongers they claim we all are and making a more peaceful regime change less likely.

[andy06shake]

Just being announced, Iran Government agree to close Strait of Hormuz.
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Roughly 20% of the world’s oil passes through there daily.

A closure, whether due to conflict or blockade, will sharply reduce oil supply, most likely triggering immediate price spikes.

Not good given the state of our respective economies already.

[putnam6]

It's easy to see that in hindsight with Iraq. But I remember the lead up. They certainly told us there was a nuclear program.

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"

Now, I don't doubt that there is a nuclear program in Iran, but that doesn't mean I think any president should have the power to drag us into a war without congress voting on it. There are a few countries that should have nukes but do. Should we just go bomb Pakistan and North Korea because we don't feel safe?

Come CS this is entry level global war power dynamics shit..

North Korea and Pakistan haven't been calling Death to America " and " Death to Israel,while firing 600 missiles at the latter

North Korea occasionally fires a test missile that mostly fails 

Pakistan can't handle India, and rarely gets pissy with America, they let Special Forces take out OBL with a little fuss

[putnam6]

LOL Vance channeling John Lennon.


EricLDaugh
 HOLY CRAP! JD Vance just DROPPED THE MIC on the Iranians... "The Iranians are clearly not very good at war. Perhaps they should follow President Trump's lead and give peace a chance."
Source
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1936777343491854409
Media extracted by FaytuksBot•Today at 9:24 AM

[andy06shake]

Similar opinion here, the Iranian regime was slowly being brought down by its own younger generations who wanted a more open and free society. This attack plays right into the hardliners hands, making the west out to be the evil war mongers they claim we all are and making a more peaceful regime change less likely.

By the looks of it, a significant proportion of the MAGA crowd, and his supporter base are none too pleased.

AKA the likes of MTG, Steve Bannon, and Tucker Carlson.

All of which seem to be expressing strong opposition to Trump's military intervention, which may well lead to a forever war.

[imitator]

Roughly 20% of the world’s oil passes through there daily.

A closure, whether due to conflict or blockade, will sharply reduce oil supply, most likely triggering immediate price spikes.

Not good given the state of our respective economies already.

Yeah… it's already translating into higher gas prices... up 10–30¢ per gallon in some places.
It’ll probably climb even more…  every missile launched seems to add another 10¢.

[SurferSoul]

Roughly 20% of the world’s oil passes through there daily.

A closure, whether due to conflict or blockade, will sharply reduce oil supply, most likely triggering immediate price spikes.

Not good given the state of our respective economies already.

But a perfect excuse to transition to “green” tech further. Bombs help reduce carbon emissions and also get rid of people causing them. Let’s have more bombs!!

[putnam6]

By the looks of it, a significant proportion of the MAGA crowd, and his supporter base are none too pleased.

AKA the likes of MTG, Steve Bannon, and Tucker Carlson.

All of which seem to be expressing strong opposition to Trump's military intervention, which may well lead to a forever war.

MTG Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson? Who cares...tempest in a tea cup

Let's not pretend ANY of their flock would gravitate to the Democrats #1 and only one actually has a vote on any legislation, and she isn't exactly a consensus maker.

The other two make a living on views and clicks  FFS